Scoop on Georgetown?

[Anonymous]

I’m the rat poster. We live in the neighborhood and are on the campus regularly. To its credit, the univ admin has greatly improved relations with the neighbors. What they haven’t done is fix the rat problem or even acknowledge it. Apparently they’re content to leave campus at 5pm and let the students and neighbors contend with it. They’re building new dorms and other new buildings, but they don’t properly maintain the older ones or the grounds. I’m sure this isn’t a dealbreaker for most, but you did ask for feedback from locals!

Despite these issues, I think it’s a great place academically and socially, and we enjoy the arts programming and some of the sporting events. Our kids would have considered it if they weren’t ready to live in another part of the country.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a great school, especially for social sciences. The only caveat is that the physical infrastructure is very poorly maintained. You may not see this as an issue since you’re from NYC, but families of rats living just outside the dorms points to a level of resource mismanagement that we don’t see on our own kids’ urban campuses. While I’m not surprised that the campus contends with common urban problems, it’s telling (and gross) that they feel no responsibility to even try to find solutions.

OP: Hmm, that bums me out...for $90k/year, there's a rat problem? Really?

DP. Issues with the Georgetown dorms have been making the rounds on social media for at least a decade. My understanding is that several have since been renovated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are a NYC family. Visited GU last week and it seemed great. Super social but not frat heavy, which would suit my DS. He'd love a midsize school in or near an East Coast city. Probable major is social sciences. We can pay in full and DS has a strong SAT score (1530/1540 from March/May). Any reason not to REA? Downsides that weren't obvious? I figure GU is a known quantity on this forum!

Sounds like it could be a good fit for your kid. I went there and enjoyed it. For a kid who knows what they want to do and is interested in IR/government, it’s awesome.

Look into SFS … you can’t beat it if your kid is interested in going into the fed govt, law, NGO work, etc.

OP: I don't think he really knows what he wants to do, and probably not government. But hopefully that wouldn't be a problem?
GU does like kids from his school, but it seems like the super duper high-stats kids (1590 SAT single-sitting) apply there if they get rejected from Ivies in the early round. So my thinking is it might be better for my kid to REA and not go up against that crowd.

If it’s your kids first choice, no reason not to go for it, but I don’t think this logic is correct. If they know they usually get higher stat kids from your high school, they likely will just defer your kid to RD to see the full pool from your school. But one never knows what will happen.[/quote

Interesting perspective (and not good news for my kid, alas).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a great school that ticks a lot of boxes. Biggest negative/deal breaker by far for people here is that it's too close to home.

This. People outside of DC think kids are nuts for not matriculating there. But, so many DC city kids want to experience a different area.

If I were a kid from just about anywhere else, the lure of DC and the Georgetown environment, monuments, etc. would be an easy cell.

[Anonymous]

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GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

would agree based on our private HS data.

[Anonymous]

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GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

This is not correct, in recent years, the EA rate has been 10 to 12 percent.

[Anonymous]

"If it’s your kids first choice, no reason not to go for it, but I don’t think this logic is correct. If they know they usually get higher stat kids from your high school, they likely will just defer your kid to RD to see the full pool from your school. But one never knows what will happen."

^^ this is very true.

What ends up happening is it can backfire. They tick off these kids and they end up choosing T10 and T15 schools because of it. They really should just take the most qualified early rounds...otherwise, these kids head to Ivies, Duke, Hopkins, etc.

[Anonymous]

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GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

This is not correct, in recent years, the EA rate has been 10 to 12 percent.

Fact: the school of Art and Sciences had the lowest EA acceptance rate this year in school history. 5% They took a smaller amount early this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the rat poster. We live in the neighborhood and are on the campus regularly. To its credit, the univ admin has greatly improved relations with the neighbors. What they haven’t done is fix the rat problem or even acknowledge it. Apparently they’re content to leave campus at 5pm and let the students and neighbors contend with it. They’re building new dorms and other new buildings, but they don’t properly maintain the older ones or the grounds. I’m sure this isn’t a dealbreaker for most, but you did ask for feedback from locals!

Despite these issues, I think it’s a great place academically and socially, and we enjoy the arts programming and some of the sporting events. Our kids would have considered it if they weren’t ready to live in another part of the country.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a great school, especially for social sciences. The only caveat is that the physical infrastructure is very poorly maintained. You may not see this as an issue since you’re from NYC, but families of rats living just outside the dorms points to a level of resource mismanagement that we don’t see on our own kids’ urban campuses. While I’m not surprised that the campus contends with common urban problems, it’s telling (and gross) that they feel no responsibility to even try to find solutions.

OP: Hmm, that bums me out...for $90k/year, there's a rat problem? Really?

DP. Issues with the Georgetown dorms have been making the rounds on social media for at least a decade. My understanding is that several have since been renovated.

Are the rats IN the dorms? Or just around the campus? I mean we are in NYC, so rats on the street and parks are a part of life (let's not even get started on the subway). But rats inside an apartment building is an absolute no-go and I wouldn't send my kid to a place that had rats in the dorms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

This is not correct, in recent years, the EA rate has been 10 to 12 percent.

Fact: the school of Art and Sciences had the lowest EA acceptance rate this year in school history. 5% They took a smaller amount early this year.

Proof of this fact?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

This is not correct, in recent years, the EA rate has been 10 to 12 percent.

Fact: the school of Art and Sciences had the lowest EA acceptance rate this year in school history. 5% They took a smaller amount early this year.

Proof of this fact?

Our schools' counselors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

This is not correct, in recent years, the EA rate has been 10 to 12 percent.

Fact: the school of Art and Sciences had the lowest EA acceptance rate this year in school history. 5% They took a smaller amount early this year.

Nope, still incorrect. The acceptance rate for college of arts and science for past year was 12 percent. https://thehoya.com/features/georgetown-admits-12-of-applicants-to-undergraduate-class-of-2028-as-students-call-for-end-to-legacy-admissions/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

This is not correct, in recent years, the EA rate has been 10 to 12 percent.

Fact: the school of Art and Sciences had the lowest EA acceptance rate this year in school history. 5% They took a smaller amount early this year.

Citation? This disagrees with the annual campus news article on acceptance rates, which has the College at 9.9% for last fall's REA. https://thehoya.com/news/georgetown-admits-first-early-action-class-without-race-based-affirmative-action/

Georgetown University accepted 10% of early action applicants in its first admissions cycle following the Supreme Court’s decision in June to end race-based affirmative action in higher education.

The university admitted 881 of 8,584 applicants, according to a university spokesperson. The number of applications increased by 4.7% from the early action Class of 2027, while the acceptance rate dropped by 1.5%. Applicants received a notification of their application result via an online portal Dec. 15.

The McDonough School of Business (MSB) saw the lowest acceptance rate, admitting 146 of 1,559 applicants for an acceptance rate of 9.4%. Georgetown College of Arts and Sciences (CAS) admitted 469 of 4,754 applicants, an acceptance rate of 9.9%. The School of Health (SOH) admitted 55 of 491 applicants, an acceptance rate of 11.2%. The Walsh School of Foreign Service admitted 185 of 1,578 applicants, an acceptance rate of 11.7%. The School of Nursing (SON) admitted 26 of 202 applicants, an acceptance rate of 12.9%.

[Anonymous]

I work with their student interns. I have had awesome students- very smart, well prepared and hard working. They have all loved their experience at GU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard to get in REA. There's actually no real measurable bump. Think RD admit rate is higher than REA.

Do some research on that. Also check your school's data. GU likes high schools that it likes.

And even then they have a very specific profile they want from each school (which isn't necessarily the same for each school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
GU is only 3-5% for EA. They don't reject anyone then though. If you aren't accepted, you get deferred.

They will take a HUGE amount of legacy in the early numbers. HUGE. Their legacy game is very, very strong and they count grad and law school and adult day students as legacy. Faculty kids are also in the early rounds.

It would up being a waste of an EA, prohibiting other private school EAs. They state there is no EA advantage.

The EA acceptances we saw from SCOIR had much lower GPAs and much, much lower test scores than the RD admits.

This is not correct, in recent years, the EA rate has been 10 to 12 percent.

Fact: the school of Art and Sciences had the lowest EA acceptance rate this year in school history. 5% They took a smaller amount early this year.

Nope, still incorrect. The acceptance rate for college of arts and science for past year was 12 percent. https://thehoya.com/features/georgetown-admits-12-of-applicants-to-undergraduate-class-of-2028-as-students-call-for-end-to-legacy-admissions/

And 10 percent for REA Arts and Sciences. https://thehoya.com/news/georgetown-admits-first-early-action-class-without-race-based-affirmative-action/ Weird how people just make numbers up.