Can TJ students take online HPE during the school year?

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Anonymous wrote:From TJ staff the general recommendation you'll hear is sign up for bare minimum course rigor each year, no need for summer courses, and make sure your kid doesn't stress out about grades. This is their CYA stance. But following this approach alone, leaves the student at a huge disadvantage compared to the top half of the class enrolled in much more comprehensive and rigorous advanced coursework.

It is not until parents talk to other parents, and students talk to their peers or upperclassmen that they learn of effective course planning and possibilities to fully utilize student's full potential.

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We don’t come from a zone with a lot of TJ families so I had no clue what was typical going into it beyond what I read on DCUM and a surprisingly helpful Facebook thread. Doing Summer PE was one of the tips I got from that.

They really should offer a parent to parent tips manual to incoming families to help share the advice around. The school is not really that helpful on giving advice about “how do most TJ students handle this” since they want to tone down the competitiveness. I am not gunning for DC to take 5 million APs but there’s a balance that’s needed.

I remember being the child of poor immigrant parents who had noone they could talk to but other poor immigrant parents. It was the blind leading the blind and the administration was no help. Their agenda did not align with the priorities of poor immigrant parents.

That's how America has evolved over the centuries. Most first-generation immigrants start with very little, but work hard to improve their situation and pass on the lessons they've learned to their children, helping them pursue better career opportunities than they had. Your child will benefit from your experience, and their children will further benefit from their improved situation.

Yeah, I get it and I am happy that I can give my kids advice I never had, and resources i never had but it would have been nice if someone told my parents that being a NMSF meant more than a $2000 scholarship, you could write an essay and possibly qualify for more scholarships. It would have been nice if they told me or my parents that noone expects poor kids to pay sticker price for college, so aim high. What opportunities are available at places like TJ and stuyvesant that are not available elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From TJ staff the general recommendation you'll hear is sign up for bare minimum course rigor each year, no need for summer courses, and make sure your kid doesn't stress out about grades. This is their CYA stance. But following this approach alone, leaves the student at a huge disadvantage compared to the top half of the class enrolled in much more comprehensive and rigorous advanced coursework.

It is not until parents talk to other parents, and students talk to their peers or upperclassmen that they learn of effective course planning and possibilities to fully utilize student's full potential.

+1
We don’t come from a zone with a lot of TJ families so I had no clue what was typical going into it beyond what I read on DCUM and a surprisingly helpful Facebook thread. Doing Summer PE was one of the tips I got from that.

They really should offer a parent to parent tips manual to incoming families to help share the advice around. The school is not really that helpful on giving advice about “how do most TJ students handle this” since they want to tone down the competitiveness. I am not gunning for DC to take 5 million APs but there’s a balance that’s needed.

I remember being the child of poor immigrant parents who had noone they could talk to but other poor immigrant parents. It was the blind leading the blind and the administration was no help. Their agenda did not align with the priorities of poor immigrant parents.

You had it easy! I, on the other hand, was raised by a pair of immigrant parents—one blind and the other mute. Picture the chaos: my blind dad trying to yell at my mom for hitting his head on the drywall, while she’s furiously signing away! Being the middle child in that circus was truly a test of patience!

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No, you cannot take it as an 8th class. You can take it as a "9th period" class but it is discouraged. Just take it over the summer next year. It doesn't have to be during or before 9th grade, it can be later.

You sure? You can take HPE 10 in the summer before 11th grade?

This summer (2024) , I asked TJ counselor if my kid could take PE (for 9 grade) next summer so the kid had space for other elective class and they said No.

I know TJ is special, but my Oakton kid took Online PE 9 after 9th grade and PE 10 after 10th grade. I'm not quite sure what would stop you from doing this. you sign up for it yourself online. I once met a kid taking PE 10 as a senior (in person).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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No, you cannot take it as an 8th class. You can take it as a "9th period" class but it is discouraged. Just take it over the summer next year. It doesn't have to be during or before 9th grade, it can be later.

You sure? You can take HPE 10 in the summer before 11th grade?

This summer (2024) , I asked TJ counselor if my kid could take PE (for 9 grade) next summer so the kid had space for other elective class and they said No.

I know TJ is special, but my Oakton kid took Online PE 9 after 9th grade and PE 10 after 10th grade. I'm not quite sure what would stop you from doing this. you sign up for it yourself online. I once met a kid taking PE 10 as a senior (in person).

Since the school counselor said no in the summer, we followed their advice and did not sign up for it. But thanks much for the info!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, you cannot take it as an 8th class. You can take it as a "9th period" class but it is discouraged. Just take it over the summer next year. It doesn't have to be during or before 9th grade, it can be later.

You sure? You can take HPE 10 in the summer before 11th grade?

This summer (2024) , I asked TJ counselor if my kid could take PE (for 9 grade) next summer so the kid had space for other elective class and they said No.

I know TJ is special, but my Oakton kid took Online PE 9 after 9th grade and PE 10 after 10th grade. I'm not quite sure what would stop you from doing this. you sign up for it yourself online. I once met a kid taking PE 10 as a senior (in person).

Since the school counselor said no in the summer, we followed their advice and did not sign up for it. But thanks much for the info!

I think the issue is you cannot take PE 9 AFTER 9th grade but yes it can - and typically is at TJ - be taken the summer before 9th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, you cannot take it as an 8th class. You can take it as a "9th period" class but it is discouraged. Just take it over the summer next year. It doesn't have to be during or before 9th grade, it can be later.

You sure? You can take HPE 10 in the summer before 11th grade?

This summer (2024) , I asked TJ counselor if my kid could take PE (for 9 grade) next summer so the kid had space for other elective class and they said No.

I know TJ is special, but my Oakton kid took Online PE 9 after 9th grade and PE 10 after 10th grade. I'm not quite sure what would stop you from doing this. you sign up for it yourself online. I once met a kid taking PE 10 as a senior (in person).

Since the school counselor said no in the summer, we followed their advice and did not sign up for it. But thanks much for the info!

I think the issue is you cannot take PE 9 AFTER 9th grade but yes it can - and typically is at TJ - be taken the summer before 9th.

My kid actually took PE 9 in the summer AFTER 10th grade in FCPS. It was not a problem. Why would anyone care as long as the requirement is met?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, you cannot take it as an 8th class. You can take it as a "9th period" class but it is discouraged. Just take it over the summer next year. It doesn't have to be during or before 9th grade, it can be later.

You sure? You can take HPE 10 in the summer before 11th grade?

This summer (2024) , I asked TJ counselor if my kid could take PE (for 9 grade) next summer so the kid had space for other elective class and they said No.

I know TJ is special, but my Oakton kid took Online PE 9 after 9th grade and PE 10 after 10th grade. I'm not quite sure what would stop you from doing this. you sign up for it yourself online. I once met a kid taking PE 10 as a senior (in person).

Since the school counselor said no in the summer, we followed their advice and did not sign up for it. But thanks much for the info!

I think the issue is you cannot take PE 9 AFTER 9th grade but yes it can - and typically is at TJ - be taken the summer before 9th.

My kid actually took PE 9 in the summer AFTER 10th grade in FCPS. It was not a problem. Why would anyone care as long as the requirement is met?

At TJ they were allowed to do it? I could see TJ being stricter because it is already a crush to get in all the classes you need there given the extra ones they require.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, you cannot take it as an 8th class. You can take it as a "9th period" class but it is discouraged. Just take it over the summer next year. It doesn't have to be during or before 9th grade, it can be later.

You sure? You can take HPE 10 in the summer before 11th grade?

This summer (2024) , I asked TJ counselor if my kid could take PE (for 9 grade) next summer so the kid had space for other elective class and they said No.

I know TJ is special, but my Oakton kid took Online PE 9 after 9th grade and PE 10 after 10th grade. I'm not quite sure what would stop you from doing this. you sign up for it yourself online. I once met a kid taking PE 10 as a senior (in person).

Since the school counselor said no in the summer, we followed their advice and did not sign up for it. But thanks much for the info!

I think the issue is you cannot take PE 9 AFTER 9th grade but yes it can - and typically is at TJ - be taken the summer before 9th.

My kid actually took PE 9 in the summer AFTER 10th grade in FCPS. It was not a problem. Why would anyone care as long as the requirement is met?

At TJ they were allowed to do it? I could see TJ being stricter because it is already a crush to get in all the classes you need there given the extra ones they require.

TJ does not allow postponing PE to the summer. If a student hasn't completed PE 9 during the previous summer, they will be enrolled in PE 9 during their freshman year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, you cannot take it as an 8th class. You can take it as a "9th period" class but it is discouraged. Just take it over the summer next year. It doesn't have to be during or before 9th grade, it can be later.

You sure? You can take HPE 10 in the summer before 11th grade?

This summer (2024) , I asked TJ counselor if my kid could take PE (for 9 grade) next summer so the kid had space for other elective class and they said No.

I know TJ is special, but my Oakton kid took Online PE 9 after 9th grade and PE 10 after 10th grade. I'm not quite sure what would stop you from doing this. you sign up for it yourself online. I once met a kid taking PE 10 as a senior (in person).

My TJ kid asked about taking PE 10 summer after 10th grade and were told NO by TJ counselor.

[Anonymous]

can i ask why the TJ counselors don't permit this? is it because they anticipate them needing to take another summer class?

[Anonymous]

I know a few national ranked athletes at TJ who took online PE during school year, school has to approve it at the beginning of the school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:can i ask why the TJ counselors don't permit this? is it because they anticipate them needing to take another summer class?

To eliminate uncertainty that student would plan/enroll but not complete it, especially since a summer PE course is beyond TJ's control. If a student enters 11st grade, without completing PE10 for whatever reason, it can lead to significant challenges with their already packed course schedule for junior year.