How much can a high GPA overcome an ok SAT score?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My friends and relatives had a good laugh when I told them that my Asian kid scored 1420 on the SAT. You're expected to score 1550 or higher on the SAT if you're Asian. Anything lower is a disgrace. LOL....

What score did your white kid get?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My friends and relatives had a good laugh when I told them that my Asian kid scored 1420 on the SAT. You're expected to score 1550 or higher on the SAT if you're Asian. Anything lower is a disgrace. LOL....

In 2023, Asian average SAT score was 1219. You don't speak for Asians. Your friends are just aholes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why worries about sat score for a rising junior? Their score will improve quite a bit after one more year of high school.

Is this true even for kids who have already done SAT prep and took high-rigor classes 9th and 10th, including honors English and honors pre-calc?

I’d love to think this is true - that DD’s scores will go up between now and spring 2025. But I’m having a hard time seeing why that would happen.

(Different maybe if they haven’t already done the prep or if they’re starting with an 1100 after 10th. But if they’re starting with a 1400?)

No, it isn’t true if they have all ready taken all the math on the test, but scores often go up a bit with repeated taking of the exam. It isn’t uncommon for kids to be done taking the test by December of their junior year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising junior, and their GPA (for now) is 3.95/4.83. Their SAT score is likely to be around 1350, maybe 1400 as a stretch.

How much can the high GPA offset the SAT score when it comes to college admission? They will apply to a variety of schools, a couple top ranked but mostly in the top 50-75.

Where does you kid want to go? A high SAT score is more likely to pull up a weaker GPA than the other way around.

Your post is missing a bunch of info re your kid's school, ECs, how your fam demographically plays into things. And, all important, are you full pay?

Start off by planning to to apply EA to Tulane or BC and then stategize from ther.

BC doesn’t have EA anymore and that SAT would be on the low side. They are also signaling they intend to return to test required soon. Their guidance for this year is to not submit a score below 1450.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friends and relatives had a good laugh when I told them that my Asian kid scored 1420 on the SAT. You're expected to score 1550 or higher on the SAT if you're Asian. Anything lower is a disgrace. LOL....

Why are you sharing your kid’s SAT score with friends and relatives? My kid would be so pissed.

PP said family is Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising junior, and their GPA (for now) is 3.95/4.83. Their SAT score is likely to be around 1350, maybe 1400 as a stretch.

How much can the high GPA offset the SAT score when it comes to college admission? They will apply to a variety of schools, a couple top ranked but mostly in the top 50-75.

3.95 is weighted?

To clarify why I am confused: you said you child has a 3.95/4.83. If 3.95 is weighted, then the GPA is not very high, esp if you’re hoping to use it to overcome a lower SAT. Most people would have the denominator and numerator be both unweighted or both weighted, not one weighted and one unweighted. Since the denominator is over a 4.0, I assume that it weighted, so I am assuming the 3.95 is, too.

Not PP, but I don't think that is a fraction....that is giving both the unweighted and weighted GPA.
3.95- unweighted
4.83- weighted

OP here. Sorry for my shorthand. What PP put above is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising junior, and their GPA (for now) is 3.95/4.83. Their SAT score is likely to be around 1350, maybe 1400 as a stretch.

How much can the high GPA offset the SAT score when it comes to college admission? They will apply to a variety of schools, a couple top ranked but mostly in the top 50-75.

Where does you kid want to go? A high SAT score is more likely to pull up a weaker GPA than the other way around.

Your post is missing a bunch of info re your kid's school, ECs, how your fam demographically plays into things. And, all important, are you full pay?

Start off by planning to to apply EA to Tulane or BC and then stategize from ther.

OP here:
Not sure where they want to go yet.
ECs are ok: part-time job and a few clubs. One leadership position. No sports, music, or national awards.
Full pay but not sure where all the money will come from so a lower ranked school with higher merit is probably going to be necessary. Or a state school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising junior, and their GPA (for now) is 3.95/4.83. Their SAT score is likely to be around 1350, maybe 1400 as a stretch.

How much can the high GPA offset the SAT score when it comes to college admission? They will apply to a variety of schools, a couple top ranked but mostly in the top 50-75.

Most likely score will improve each time test is taken. BUT if the colleges she is applying to remain TO then don't submit scores unless they are within the higher end of average or above for that particular school.

[Anonymous]

If OP's kid is already at 1400's, it is not that hard to go get 1550+. The question is, how much are you willing to pay for it? My DD scored 1350 on the SAT, and I hired a Stanford sophomore to tutor DD over the summer to improve her score and I paid her 25K. DD took the SAT after that and scored 1560. SAT scores can be easily improved and manipulated. The Stanford sophomore told me that she helped 10 other students score at least 1510.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If OP's kid is already at 1400's, it is not that hard to go get 1550+. The question is, how much are you willing to pay for it? My DD scored 1350 on the SAT, and I hired a Stanford sophomore to tutor DD over the summer to improve her score and I paid her 25K. DD took the SAT after that and scored 1560. SAT scores can be easily improved and manipulated. The Stanford sophomore told me that she helped 10 other students score at least 1510.

You paid $25,000 to the SAT tutor? Please tell me you meant $2,500...

[Anonymous]

DC had same gpa and a 1550 and “best” college they got into was in that tier. I think your child will do fine, OP, so long as they keep their goals realistic (not saying don’t reach, but have plenty of realistic schools, too). In hindsight my DC mostly applied to top tier or very competitive admissions colleges, and didn’t get lucky at any and is at one of their two safeties. He loves it, by the way!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If OP's kid is already at 1400's, it is not that hard to go get 1550+. The question is, how much are you willing to pay for it? My DD scored 1350 on the SAT, and I hired a Stanford sophomore to tutor DD over the summer to improve her score and I paid her 25K. DD took the SAT after that and scored 1560. SAT scores can be easily improved and manipulated. The Stanford sophomore told me that she helped 10 other students score at least 1510.

You paid $25,000 to the SAT tutor? Please tell me you meant $2,500...

PP here. I paid 25K, NOT $2,500.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friends and relatives had a good laugh when I told them that my Asian kid scored 1420 on the SAT. You're expected to score 1550 or higher on the SAT if you're Asian. Anything lower is a disgrace. LOL....

Why are you sharing your kid’s SAT score with friends and relatives? My kid would be so pissed.

PP said family is Asian.

Spoken like a true racist.

[Anonymous]

SAT scores are evaluated in context. What’s bad coming from one high school may not hurt you coming from another.

[Anonymous]

Two different things. A high GPA is evaluated as compared to your peers in your school. A high GPA may not be high if your school has severe grade inflation.

SAT score is evaluated across the country. A mediocre SAT score indicates how you compare to the applicant pool.

They are used in different contexts.