virtual instruction for compacted math?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to terminate the class given they claim virtual is so bad for kids.

Fortunately this is separate from the horrendous experiment with virtual learning that MCPS tried with the MVA, which is the failed program you’re referring to.

It was a great program you know nothing about. Clearly it worked if they are offering this.

No. The MVA didn’t work at all, which is why it was terminated after it lost more than 40% of its participants year over year and saw enrollment overall drop by more than 66%. The fact that MCPS is using virtual instruction to offer compacted math fortunately shows that MCPS is willing to use virtual instruction where it makes sense - these types of tailored classes that can reach cohorts that would be without it otherwise - rather than wasting resources on a full time grade 1-12 program that failed significantly to educate students as well as in-person schools on average, particularly the youngest and poorest of those who were in the mva.

Source: https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Stop trying to hijack every threat that mentions productive uses of virtual instruction with your nonsense about why that means we need to bring the MVA back online. It’s not helping your cause. No one wants to be associated with the failed program.

Your post is nonsense as you aren't posting last year's data or talking to families. The drop was expected as some were just there for covid. And, they did not let kids off the waitlist.

And, Reeseman is a nutjob who has no experience with the MVA and is only looking for clicks to sell useless books.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it sad that there are schools that don't have a cohort? 2 makes a cohort, MCPS. Offer it in person.

All staffing requires money. No school can afford to pay one person to instruct two kids for over an hour every day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to terminate the class given they claim virtual is so bad for kids.

Fortunately this is separate from the horrendous experiment with virtual learning that MCPS tried with the MVA, which is the failed program you’re referring to.

It was a great program you know nothing about. Clearly it worked if they are offering this.

Regardless, it's gone. Turn your attention to the state if you want a special school program to keep your kids stuck at home.

You are so clueless. The state does not provide educational services, just oversite. You want MCPS money to be taken and given to MCPS to pay for it?

That's a strange justification to use when MCPS now doesn't provide virtual classes either.

And besides that, it's wrong. MSDE has been administering virtual programs longer than MCPS, and could certainly expand their offerings if there was funding and demand. It's already part of their legal authorities under state law.

They don’t administer any classes.

MSDE administers the program that offers classes. That's almost certainly what they would do for a statewide program offering live instruction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to terminate the class given they claim virtual is so bad for kids.

Fortunately this is separate from the horrendous experiment with virtual learning that MCPS tried with the MVA, which is the failed program you’re referring to.

It was a great program you know nothing about. Clearly it worked if they are offering this.

Regardless, it's gone. Turn your attention to the state if you want a special school program to keep your kids stuck at home.

You are so clueless. The state does not provide educational services, just oversite. You want MCPS money to be taken and given to MCPS to pay for it?

That's a strange justification to use when MCPS now doesn't provide virtual classes either.

And besides that, it's wrong. MSDE has been administering virtual programs longer than MCPS, and could certainly expand their offerings if there was funding and demand. It's already part of their legal authorities under state law.

They don’t administer any classes.

MSDE administers the program that offers classes. That's almost certainly what they would do for a statewide program offering live instruction.

Can you show us the program? Administering and running are two different things. MCPS would have to pay for those funds. Are you ok with MCPS paying for it? How much would that cost MCPS? Most virtual is done privately through companies like Pearson and K-12. Its fine to outsource but that's a big chunk of MCPS funding and what is more cost efficient?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to terminate the class given they claim virtual is so bad for kids.

Fortunately this is separate from the horrendous experiment with virtual learning that MCPS tried with the MVA, which is the failed program you’re referring to.

It was a great program you know nothing about. Clearly it worked if they are offering this.

Regardless, it's gone. Turn your attention to the state if you want a special school program to keep your kids stuck at home.

You are so clueless. The state does not provide educational services, just oversite. You want MCPS money to be taken and given to MCPS to pay for it?

That's a strange justification to use when MCPS now doesn't provide virtual classes either.

And besides that, it's wrong. MSDE has been administering virtual programs longer than MCPS, and could certainly expand their offerings if there was funding and demand. It's already part of their legal authorities under state law.

They don’t administer any classes.

MSDE administers the program that offers classes. That's almost certainly what they would do for a statewide program offering live instruction.

Can you show us the program? Administering and running are two different things. MCPS would have to pay for those funds. Are you ok with MCPS paying for it? How much would that cost MCPS? Most virtual is done privately through companies like Pearson and K-12. Its fine to outsource but that's a big chunk of MCPS funding and what is more cost efficient?

This is old, but the program is ongoing:
https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/06202018/TabO-OnlineLearningPolicies.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to terminate the class given they claim virtual is so bad for kids.

Fortunately this is separate from the horrendous experiment with virtual learning that MCPS tried with the MVA, which is the failed program you’re referring to.

It was a great program you know nothing about. Clearly it worked if they are offering this.

Regardless, it's gone. Turn your attention to the state if you want a special school program to keep your kids stuck at home.

You are so clueless. The state does not provide educational services, just oversite. You want MCPS money to be taken and given to MCPS to pay for it?

That's a strange justification to use when MCPS now doesn't provide virtual classes either.

And besides that, it's wrong. MSDE has been administering virtual programs longer than MCPS, and could certainly expand their offerings if there was funding and demand. It's already part of their legal authorities under state law.

They don’t administer any classes.

MSDE administers the program that offers classes. That's almost certainly what they would do for a statewide program offering live instruction.

Can you show us the program? Administering and running are two different things. MCPS would have to pay for those funds. Are you ok with MCPS paying for it? How much would that cost MCPS? Most virtual is done privately through companies like Pearson and K-12. Its fine to outsource but that's a big chunk of MCPS funding and what is more cost efficient?

This is old, but the program is ongoing:
https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/06202018/TabO-OnlineLearningPolicies.pdf

Did you read or understand what you posted? They oversee and approve private companies who are providing online and homeschooling classes. That has nothing to do with the state or MCPS providing virtual school for students. Those are just approved classes if parents choose them and pay for them for their students with a curriculum where credits can transfer. They are not providing or paying for those classes. They are not running any classes directly. It would be great if they did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to terminate the class given they claim virtual is so bad for kids.

Fortunately this is separate from the horrendous experiment with virtual learning that MCPS tried with the MVA, which is the failed program you’re referring to.

It was a great program you know nothing about. Clearly it worked if they are offering this.

Regardless, it's gone. Turn your attention to the state if you want a special school program to keep your kids stuck at home.

You are so clueless. The state does not provide educational services, just oversite. You want MCPS money to be taken and given to MCPS to pay for it?

That's a strange justification to use when MCPS now doesn't provide virtual classes either.

And besides that, it's wrong. MSDE has been administering virtual programs longer than MCPS, and could certainly expand their offerings if there was funding and demand. It's already part of their legal authorities under state law.

They don’t administer any classes.

MSDE administers the program that offers classes. That's almost certainly what they would do for a statewide program offering live instruction.

Can you show us the program? Administering and running are two different things. MCPS would have to pay for those funds. Are you ok with MCPS paying for it? How much would that cost MCPS? Most virtual is done privately through companies like Pearson and K-12. Its fine to outsource but that's a big chunk of MCPS funding and what is more cost efficient?

This is old, but the program is ongoing:
https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/06202018/TabO-OnlineLearningPolicies.pdf

Did you read or understand what you posted? They oversee and approve private companies who are providing online and homeschooling classes. That has nothing to do with the state or MCPS providing virtual school for students. Those are just approved classes if parents choose them and pay for them for their students with a curriculum where credits can transfer. They are not providing or paying for those classes. They are not running any classes directly. It would be great if they did.

That's how most states run their virtual programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it sad that there are schools that don't have a cohort? 2 makes a cohort, MCPS. Offer it in person.

To offer it in person, you need an available teacher and a classroom.

If that instruction is happening during the school day, by definition there is an available teacher and a classroom monitoring the students.

Okay so let's say you have 15:0 students and five teachers and only five of them are compacted math students. Does it really make sense to have 37 kids in each math class so that you can free up one teacher to teach five kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it sad that there are schools that don't have a cohort? 2 makes a cohort, MCPS. Offer it in person.

To offer it in person, you need an available teacher and a classroom.

If that instruction is happening during the school day, by definition there is an available teacher and a classroom monitoring the students.

Okay so let's say you have 15:0 students and five teachers and only five of them are compacted math students. Does it really make sense to have 37 kids in each math class so that you can free up one teacher to teach five kids?

Exactly. Do people really think teachers are just sitting around?? In elementary, every teacher is tasked with teaching something somewhere. All day. So many things to complain about but ensuring students still have access to enrichment in environments where a teacher is not available is not a justifiable complaint. As the old DCUM saying goes, if you don’t like it, private is always an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it sad that there are schools that don't have a cohort? 2 makes a cohort, MCPS. Offer it in person.

To offer it in person, you need an available teacher and a classroom.

If that instruction is happening during the school day, by definition there is an available teacher and a classroom monitoring the students.

Okay so let's say you have 15:0 students and five teachers and only five of them are compacted math students. Does it really make sense to have 37 kids in each math class so that you can free up one teacher to teach five kids?

Exactly. Do people really think teachers are just sitting around?? In elementary, every teacher is tasked with teaching something somewhere. All day. So many things to complain about but ensuring students still have access to enrichment in environments where a teacher is not available is not a justifiable complaint. As the old DCUM saying goes, if you don’t like it, private is always an option.

So, only the wealthy mostly white schools with a large cohort of 25+ accelerated math learners get to have compacted math opportunities. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it sad that there are schools that don't have a cohort? 2 makes a cohort, MCPS. Offer it in person.

To offer it in person, you need an available teacher and a classroom.

If that instruction is happening during the school day, by definition there is an available teacher and a classroom monitoring the students.

Okay so let's say you have 15:0 students and five teachers and only five of them are compacted math students. Does it really make sense to have 37 kids in each math class so that you can free up one teacher to teach five kids?

Exactly. Do people really think teachers are just sitting around?? In elementary, every teacher is tasked with teaching something somewhere. All day. So many things to complain about but ensuring students still have access to enrichment in environments where a teacher is not available is not a justifiable complaint. As the old DCUM saying goes, if you don’t like it, private is always an option.

So, only the wealthy mostly white schools with a large cohort of 25+ accelerated math learners get to have compacted math opportunities. Got it.

Wealthy and white isn't the issue, but cohort is. If there simply aren't enough students to justify a class, it isn't going to be offered. Pooling smaller numbers of students together to form a cohort for virtual learning makes a lot of sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it sad that there are schools that don't have a cohort? 2 makes a cohort, MCPS. Offer it in person.

To offer it in person, you need an available teacher and a classroom.

If that instruction is happening during the school day, by definition there is an available teacher and a classroom monitoring the students.

Okay so let's say you have 15:0 students and five teachers and only five of them are compacted math students. Does it really make sense to have 37 kids in each math class so that you can free up one teacher to teach five kids?

Exactly. Do people really think teachers are just sitting around?? In elementary, every teacher is tasked with teaching something somewhere. All day. So many things to complain about but ensuring students still have access to enrichment in environments where a teacher is not available is not a justifiable complaint. As the old DCUM saying goes, if you don’t like it, private is always an option.

So, only the wealthy mostly white schools with a large cohort of 25+ accelerated math learners get to have compacted math opportunities. Got it.

Obviously you didn’t get it. This is a good thing. To ensure all students have access to enrichment even if there is a small number of students. They can be served by combining schools in a virtual setting. is this difficult to understand? If you want to complain that it’s virtual then that’s your problem.

[Anonymous]

What’s interesting to me is the disparity between divisions concerning class enrollment issues. I know several 8th graders at our MS that will get busses 2 at a time from their home HS after taking a Spanish 3 class to their MS. Because we are in a consortium, they are paying for multiple busses coming from multiple high schools instead of bussing them all from one school.

MCPS can’t have 5th graders ride the regular MS bus to take math first period and then ride a bus back to their ES in time for the start of the ES day? On the flip side, why not have these MA students receive virtual instruction under the babysitting of a para?

[Anonymous]

Is it OK to provide virtual instruction across schools to cover the extra support for elementary students who are below grade level/struggling with grade level math where there isn't a cohort?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting to me is the disparity between divisions concerning class enrollment issues. I know several 8th graders at our MS that will get busses 2 at a time from their home HS after taking a Spanish 3 class to their MS. Because we are in a consortium, they are paying for multiple busses coming from multiple high schools instead of bussing them all from one school.

MCPS can’t have 5th graders ride the regular MS bus to take math first period and then ride a bus back to their ES in time for the start of the ES day? On the flip side, why not have these MA students receive virtual instruction under the babysitting of a para?

We were told no and our hs doesn’t have a class needed for graduation requirement. We even offered to drive and were told no.