Opposition Research on Baseball Travel League

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. This isn't how age appeals work.

1) Umpires don't deal with player eligibility.
2) Umpires don't talk to parents regarding any aspect of the game.
3) If age eligibility was properly questioned by a coach, it would be adjudicated by a league or tournament official. At tournaments, teams are required to have birth certificates on hand for all players on the roster.

Travel Ball Coach here. Agree.

This is a troll post.

Dad, here. No one cares that you're a 'travel ball' coach and no one cares that you sat on the bench at Gettysburg for two seasons in the late 90's. HTH.

pp here who originally explained why it's a troll. I'm a former travel softball coach and currently an umpire in three different sanctions. The "travel ball coach" information in the pp's post is actually salient because it indicates someone who's been around the game a long time and knows how things work. OP is using the MSU rulebook ("Make Shit Up").

Hold up. You're supposedly a coach and an experienced ump and you're claiming BS on a game getting forfeited?

That is BS. I only have two sons who have been playing since 18 and I've seen three or four game get called for ineligible payers.

You are FOS.

Yeah, I'm calling out the story as not credible and complete bullshit. An umpire doesn't adjudicate player eligibility in any sanction I'm aware of. Not USA, not USSSA, certainly not NFHS. Roster challenges are not to the umpires, rather whoever is administratively in charge. So in HS that would be an athletic director. In a USSSA or USA tournament it would be a tournament director or league official. I'm obviously not up on the official rules of baseball, but it's my understanding it's the same thing.

So this story where some random Mom complained to an umpire about a player being too old and the umpire 1) listened to her; and 2) Challenged another coach based on this accusation doesn't track. At all. And that's what the other coach was saying, too. It's just not believable or consistent with the way things work.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, although I'm quite certain you're not in doubt. My suggestion is that you take a seat, shut the hell up, and let those of us who know what's what discuss this. You are dismissed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. This isn't how age appeals work.

1) Umpires don't deal with player eligibility.
2) Umpires don't talk to parents regarding any aspect of the game.
3) If age eligibility was properly questioned by a coach, it would be adjudicated by a league or tournament official. At tournaments, teams are required to have birth certificates on hand for all players on the roster.

Travel Ball Coach here. Agree.

This is a troll post.

Dad, here. No one cares that you're a 'travel ball' coach and no one cares that you sat on the bench at Gettysburg for two seasons in the late 90's. HTH.

pp here who originally explained why it's a troll. I'm a former travel softball coach and currently an umpire in three different sanctions. The "travel ball coach" information in the pp's post is actually salient because it indicates someone who's been around the game a long time and knows how things work. OP is using the MSU rulebook ("Make Shit Up").

Hold up. You're supposedly a coach and an experienced ump and you're claiming BS on a game getting forfeited?

That is BS. I only have two sons who have been playing since 18 and I've seen three or four game get called for ineligible payers.

You are FOS.

Yeah, I'm calling out the story as not credible and complete bullshit. An umpire doesn't adjudicate player eligibility in any sanction I'm aware of. Not USA, not USSSA, certainly not NFHS. Roster challenges are not to the umpires, rather whoever is administratively in charge. So in HS that would be an athletic director. In a USSSA or USA tournament it would be a tournament director or league official. I'm obviously not up on the official rules of baseball, but it's my understanding it's the same thing.

So this story where some random Mom complained to an umpire about a player being too old and the umpire 1) listened to her; and 2) Challenged another coach based on this accusation doesn't track. At all. And that's what the other coach was saying, too. It's just not believable or consistent with the way things work.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, although I'm quite certain you're not in doubt. My suggestion is that you take a seat, shut the hell up, and let those of us who know what's what discuss this. You are dismissed.

You are a blustering idiot, like most umps I know. You're lucky you're sitting in a cube, gramps.

[Anonymous]

So many coaches just want to win. I have two boys two years apart that look really similar. People think they are twins, just the older one is taller. The younger one gets called mini-Larlo.

Two or three times throughout the years a coach has realized the younger brother looked exactly like the older one and hinted it would be great if the older one could sub in in a pinch when the younger one has been sick or when the younger one wasn’t available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. This isn't how age appeals work.

1) Umpires don't deal with player eligibility.
2) Umpires don't talk to parents regarding any aspect of the game.
3) If age eligibility was properly questioned by a coach, it would be adjudicated by a league or tournament official. At tournaments, teams are required to have birth certificates on hand for all players on the roster.

Travel Ball Coach here. Agree.

This is a troll post.

Dad, here. No one cares that you're a 'travel ball' coach and no one cares that you sat on the bench at Gettysburg for two seasons in the late 90's. HTH.

pp here who originally explained why it's a troll. I'm a former travel softball coach and currently an umpire in three different sanctions. The "travel ball coach" information in the pp's post is actually salient because it indicates someone who's been around the game a long time and knows how things work. OP is using the MSU rulebook ("Make Shit Up").

Hold up. You're supposedly a coach and an experienced ump and you're claiming BS on a game getting forfeited?

That is BS. I only have two sons who have been playing since 18 and I've seen three or four game get called for ineligible payers.

You are FOS.

Yeah, I'm calling out the story as not credible and complete bullshit. An umpire doesn't adjudicate player eligibility in any sanction I'm aware of. Not USA, not USSSA, certainly not NFHS. Roster challenges are not to the umpires, rather whoever is administratively in charge. So in HS that would be an athletic director. In a USSSA or USA tournament it would be a tournament director or league official. I'm obviously not up on the official rules of baseball, but it's my understanding it's the same thing.

So this story where some random Mom complained to an umpire about a player being too old and the umpire 1) listened to her; and 2) Challenged another coach based on this accusation doesn't track. At all. And that's what the other coach was saying, too. It's just not believable or consistent with the way things work.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, although I'm quite certain you're not in doubt. My suggestion is that you take a seat, shut the hell up, and let those of us who know what's what discuss this. You are dismissed.

You are a blustering idiot, like most umps I know. You're lucky you're sitting in a cube, gramps.

That's it, you're outta here. Go clean your Prius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. This isn't how age appeals work.

1) Umpires don't deal with player eligibility.
2) Umpires don't talk to parents regarding any aspect of the game.
3) If age eligibility was properly questioned by a coach, it would be adjudicated by a league or tournament official. At tournaments, teams are required to have birth certificates on hand for all players on the roster.

Travel Ball Coach here. Agree.

This is a troll post.

Dad, here. No one cares that you're a 'travel ball' coach and no one cares that you sat on the bench at Gettysburg for two seasons in the late 90's. HTH.

pp here who originally explained why it's a troll. I'm a former travel softball coach and currently an umpire in three different sanctions. The "travel ball coach" information in the pp's post is actually salient because it indicates someone who's been around the game a long time and knows how things work. OP is using the MSU rulebook ("Make Shit Up").

Hold up. You're supposedly a coach and an experienced ump and you're claiming BS on a game getting forfeited?

That is BS. I only have two sons who have been playing since 18 and I've seen three or four game get called for ineligible payers.

You are FOS.

Yeah, I'm calling out the story as not credible and complete bullshit. An umpire doesn't adjudicate player eligibility in any sanction I'm aware of. Not USA, not USSSA, certainly not NFHS. Roster challenges are not to the umpires, rather whoever is administratively in charge. So in HS that would be an athletic director. In a USSSA or USA tournament it would be a tournament director or league official. I'm obviously not up on the official rules of baseball, but it's my understanding it's the same thing.

So this story where some random Mom complained to an umpire about a player being too old and the umpire 1) listened to her; and 2) Challenged another coach based on this accusation doesn't track. At all. And that's what the other coach was saying, too. It's just not believable or consistent with the way things work.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, although I'm quite certain you're not in doubt. My suggestion is that you take a seat, shut the hell up, and let those of us who know what's what discuss this. You are dismissed.

PP was right. You actually are an idiot. OP stated plainly way up top that this was legion, not HS. Take a seat pops, you look like a fool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. This isn't how age appeals work.

1) Umpires don't deal with player eligibility.
2) Umpires don't talk to parents regarding any aspect of the game.
3) If age eligibility was properly questioned by a coach, it would be adjudicated by a league or tournament official. At tournaments, teams are required to have birth certificates on hand for all players on the roster.

Travel Ball Coach here. Agree.

This is a troll post.

Dad, here. No one cares that you're a 'travel ball' coach and no one cares that you sat on the bench at Gettysburg for two seasons in the late 90's. HTH.

pp here who originally explained why it's a troll. I'm a former travel softball coach and currently an umpire in three different sanctions. The "travel ball coach" information in the pp's post is actually salient because it indicates someone who's been around the game a long time and knows how things work. OP is using the MSU rulebook ("Make Shit Up").

Hold up. You're supposedly a coach and an experienced ump and you're claiming BS on a game getting forfeited?

That is BS. I only have two sons who have been playing since 18 and I've seen three or four game get called for ineligible payers.

You are FOS.

Yeah, I'm calling out the story as not credible and complete bullshit. An umpire doesn't adjudicate player eligibility in any sanction I'm aware of. Not USA, not USSSA, certainly not NFHS. Roster challenges are not to the umpires, rather whoever is administratively in charge. So in HS that would be an athletic director. In a USSSA or USA tournament it would be a tournament director or league official. I'm obviously not up on the official rules of baseball, but it's my understanding it's the same thing.

So this story where some random Mom complained to an umpire about a player being too old and the umpire 1) listened to her; and 2) Challenged another coach based on this accusation doesn't track. At all. And that's what the other coach was saying, too. It's just not believable or consistent with the way things work.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, although I'm quite certain you're not in doubt. My suggestion is that you take a seat, shut the hell up, and let those of us who know what's what discuss this. You are dismissed.

PP was right. You actually are an idiot. OP stated plainly way up top that this was legion, not HS. Take a seat pops, you look like a fool.

That makes the story even LESS credible. The bottom line is umpires don't interact with spectators about rules, much less eligibilty questions; and 2) Don't adjudicate eligibility issues in any sanction, Legion or otherwise.

Do I need to eject you, too? Go cleaning your effing car. You're out of here.

Jesus. The stupid. It hurts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. This isn't how age appeals work.

1) Umpires don't deal with player eligibility.
2) Umpires don't talk to parents regarding any aspect of the game.
3) If age eligibility was properly questioned by a coach, it would be adjudicated by a league or tournament official. At tournaments, teams are required to have birth certificates on hand for all players on the roster.

Travel Ball Coach here. Agree.

This is a troll post.

Dad, here. No one cares that you're a 'travel ball' coach and no one cares that you sat on the bench at Gettysburg for two seasons in the late 90's. HTH.

pp here who originally explained why it's a troll. I'm a former travel softball coach and currently an umpire in three different sanctions. The "travel ball coach" information in the pp's post is actually salient because it indicates someone who's been around the game a long time and knows how things work. OP is using the MSU rulebook ("Make Shit Up").

Hold up. You're supposedly a coach and an experienced ump and you're claiming BS on a game getting forfeited?

That is BS. I only have two sons who have been playing since 18 and I've seen three or four game get called for ineligible payers.

You are FOS.

Yeah, I'm calling out the story as not credible and complete bullshit. An umpire doesn't adjudicate player eligibility in any sanction I'm aware of. Not USA, not USSSA, certainly not NFHS. Roster challenges are not to the umpires, rather whoever is administratively in charge. So in HS that would be an athletic director. In a USSSA or USA tournament it would be a tournament director or league official. I'm obviously not up on the official rules of baseball, but it's my understanding it's the same thing.

So this story where some random Mom complained to an umpire about a player being too old and the umpire 1) listened to her; and 2) Challenged another coach based on this accusation doesn't track. At all. And that's what the other coach was saying, too. It's just not believable or consistent with the way things work.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, although I'm quite certain you're not in doubt. My suggestion is that you take a seat, shut the hell up, and let those of us who know what's what discuss this. You are dismissed.

PP was right. You actually are an idiot. OP stated plainly way up top that this was legion, not HS. Take a seat pops, you look like a fool.

That makes the story even LESS credible. The bottom line is umpires don't interact with spectators about rules, much less eligibilty questions; and 2) Don't adjudicate eligibility issues in any sanction, Legion or otherwise.

Do I need to eject you, too? Go cleaning your effing car. You're out of here.

Jesus. The stupid. It hurts.

Ha. You don't know d*ck about Legion.

And that pain you're feeling is your gout. Calm down gramps or you'll have another two week flare.

[Anonymous]

Just so you have all the facts - the player in question was not ineligible because of his age, he was ineligible because he wasn’t actually on the team’s roster. He arrived late to the game and went on to the field wearing another player’s jersey. The parent the OP mentioned is a friend of the family of the player who was supposedly subbed in and knew he was at the beach with his family. She then told the coach of her son’s team, who spoke to a tournament official, who then questioned the opposing coach. The opposing coaching at first claimed the player entering the game was indeed the player listed on the roster and wearing the right jersey. However, there were multiple parents who knew both kids and the coach eventually “confessed” that the player who entered the game was not on the roster. The game was then stopped and the cheating team forfeited. Side note - the cheating team was losing 6-2 when the game was called.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just so you have all the facts - the player in question was not ineligible because of his age, he was ineligible because he wasn’t actually on the team’s roster. He arrived late to the game and went on to the field wearing another player’s jersey. The parent the OP mentioned is a friend of the family of the player who was supposedly subbed in and knew he was at the beach with his family. She then told the coach of her son’s team, who spoke to a tournament official, who then questioned the opposing coach. The opposing coaching at first claimed the player entering the game was indeed the player listed on the roster and wearing the right jersey. However, there were multiple parents who knew both kids and the coach eventually “confessed” that the player who entered the game was not on the roster. The game was then stopped and the cheating team forfeited. Side note - the cheating team was losing 6-2 when the game was called.

So you are changing the facts of the story now. Definitely a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just so you have all the facts - the player in question was not ineligible because of his age, he was ineligible because he wasn’t actually on the team’s roster. He arrived late to the game and went on to the field wearing another player’s jersey. The parent the OP mentioned is a friend of the family of the player who was supposedly subbed in and knew he was at the beach with his family. She then told the coach of her son’s team, who spoke to a tournament official, who then questioned the opposing coach. The opposing coaching at first claimed the player entering the game was indeed the player listed on the roster and wearing the right jersey. However, there were multiple parents who knew both kids and the coach eventually “confessed” that the player who entered the game was not on the roster. The game was then stopped and the cheating team forfeited. Side note - the cheating team was losing 6-2 when the game was called.

So now you're changing your story? Get a grip, gramps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you have all the facts - the player in question was not ineligible because of his age, he was ineligible because he wasn’t actually on the team’s roster. He arrived late to the game and went on to the field wearing another player’s jersey. The parent the OP mentioned is a friend of the family of the player who was supposedly subbed in and knew he was at the beach with his family. She then told the coach of her son’s team, who spoke to a tournament official, who then questioned the opposing coach. The opposing coaching at first claimed the player entering the game was indeed the player listed on the roster and wearing the right jersey. However, there were multiple parents who knew both kids and the coach eventually “confessed” that the player who entered the game was not on the roster. The game was then stopped and the cheating team forfeited. Side note - the cheating team was losing 6-2 when the game was called.

So you are changing the facts of the story now. Definitely a troll.

+1 I think this isn't OP. I think this is the guy who fancies himself to be some important official because he had some fat DD play softball when he obviously doesn't even know the game. Five posts earlier he was claiming no such forfeiture wasnt even possible! So he made up a story to make himself seem right.

Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many coaches just want to win. I have two boys two years apart that look really similar. People think they are twins, just the older one is taller. The younger one gets called mini-Larlo.

Two or three times throughout the years a coach has realized the younger brother looked exactly like the older one and hinted it would be great if the older one could sub in in a pinch when the younger one has been sick or when the younger one wasn’t available.

Is that because the coach wants to win or because the coach wants to be able to field a team when not all of the players can make it?

Sometimes teams need to use subs just to be able to play. As long as the kids are still reasonably comparable who the heck cares if a player or two is technically too old?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you have all the facts - the player in question was not ineligible because of his age, he was ineligible because he wasn’t actually on the team’s roster. He arrived late to the game and went on to the field wearing another player’s jersey. The parent the OP mentioned is a friend of the family of the player who was supposedly subbed in and knew he was at the beach with his family. She then told the coach of her son’s team, who spoke to a tournament official, who then questioned the opposing coach. The opposing coaching at first claimed the player entering the game was indeed the player listed on the roster and wearing the right jersey. However, there were multiple parents who knew both kids and the coach eventually “confessed” that the player who entered the game was not on the roster. The game was then stopped and the cheating team forfeited. Side note - the cheating team was losing 6-2 when the game was called.

So you are changing the facts of the story now. Definitely a troll.

+1 I think this isn't OP. I think this is the guy who fancies himself to be some important official because he had some fat DD play softball when he obviously doesn't even know the game. Five posts earlier he was claiming no such forfeiture wasnt even possible! So he made up a story to make himself seem right.

Sad.

What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so you have all the facts - the player in question was not ineligible because of his age, he was ineligible because he wasn’t actually on the team’s roster. He arrived late to the game and went on to the field wearing another player’s jersey. The parent the OP mentioned is a friend of the family of the player who was supposedly subbed in and knew he was at the beach with his family. She then told the coach of her son’s team, who spoke to a tournament official, who then questioned the opposing coach. The opposing coaching at first claimed the player entering the game was indeed the player listed on the roster and wearing the right jersey. However, there were multiple parents who knew both kids and the coach eventually “confessed” that the player who entered the game was not on the roster. The game was then stopped and the cheating team forfeited. Side note - the cheating team was losing 6-2 when the game was called.

So now you're changing your story? Get a grip, gramps.

This was obviously not OP but a different person at the game. Who is clarifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just so you have all the facts - the player in question was not ineligible because of his age, he was ineligible because he wasn’t actually on the team’s roster. He arrived late to the game and went on to the field wearing another player’s jersey. The parent the OP mentioned is a friend of the family of the player who was supposedly subbed in and knew he was at the beach with his family. She then told the coach of her son’s team, who spoke to a tournament official, who then questioned the opposing coach. The opposing coaching at first claimed the player entering the game was indeed the player listed on the roster and wearing the right jersey. However, there were multiple parents who knew both kids and the coach eventually “confessed” that the player who entered the game was not on the roster. The game was then stopped and the cheating team forfeited. Side note - the cheating team was losing 6-2 when the game was called.

I did not claim to be the OP and this was my first post on this topic. My nephew is on the team that didn’t cheat and I was at the game. Just thought you should have the real story. Enjoy your day!