WOW, if there is height/athleticism in your family, have your kid play football

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Much better odds for ice hockey and lacrosse players: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx

But you're not going to learn lacrosse overnight. The thing with these football players is that they barely even play football. They started in 9th grade (if that). The Ivy lacrosse recruits have put in a decade of travel lacrosse. That is a LOT of tournaments and a lot of money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son goes to a top academic private school that also has a football team.
He has friends (from this school and an almost identical one) who have football offers from Duke, UVA, Cornell, Columbia, Yale, Harvard, Boston College (these are all different kids and some have multiple offers, not listed). They are mostly white.
They're smart enough---GPAs around 3.5---or middle-of-the-pack for the grade--- and they play football well enough (nothing spectacular or all-state but they're tall and athletic).
However, the elite universities are THRILLED to take these kids because they can do the academic work and fill a spot on their football roster.
The kids are literally choosing their colleges.

Meanwhile the academic kids in the grade are killing themselves to get a 3.9 for some chance at getting into a top school on grades, scores, extracurriculars.

Moral of the story: if you have height and athleticism in your family--have your kid play football. Better yet: have them attend an elite private too. They'll walk into an Ivy and won't have to sweat out the grades.

No brainer here. I would rather pick a well rounded athletic and smart kid than a geek for sure!

That is really concerning. Anti-intellectualism once again making its round on DCUM

Yes, a clear violation of our social contract as to the strict IQ hierarchy we all have agreed prevails in DCUMland. Very concerning indeed.

[Anonymous]

Nah, I'd rather have my son not worry about concussions. My uncle had a few playing football and he was never right in the head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen this too. But like most parents I don’t want my kids playing football, even if it got them into Harvard. The TBI risk is too high.

Ot takes a lot of kids to field a football team and in UMC areas in the northeast it’s getting hard to find enough kids…

Yeah. The Harvard degree won't do that much good other than bragging rights when your kid suffers a TBI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much better odds for ice hockey and lacrosse players: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx

But you're not going to learn lacrosse overnight. The thing with these football players is that they barely even play football. They started in 9th grade (if that). The Ivy lacrosse recruits have put in a decade of travel lacrosse. That is a LOT of tournaments and a lot of money.

The one Ivy lacrosse recruit I knew personally started playing in 9th grade (maybe 8th). Good athlete but not spectacular. Very, very smart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son goes to a top academic private school that also has a football team.
He has friends (from this school and an almost identical one) who have football offers from Duke, UVA, Cornell, Columbia, Yale, Harvard, Boston College (these are all different kids and some have multiple offers, not listed). They are mostly white.
They're smart enough---GPAs around 3.5---or middle-of-the-pack for the grade--- and they play football well enough (nothing spectacular or all-state but they're tall and athletic).
However, the elite universities are THRILLED to take these kids because they can do the academic work and fill a spot on their football roster.
The kids are literally choosing their colleges.

Meanwhile the academic kids in the grade are killing themselves to get a 3.9 for some chance at getting into a top school on grades, scores, extracurriculars.

Moral of the story: if you have height and athleticism in your family--have your kid play football. Better yet: have them attend an elite private too. They'll walk into an Ivy and won't have to sweat out the grades.

No brainer here. I would rather pick a well rounded athletic and smart kid than a geek for sure!

That is really concerning. Anti-intellectualism once again making its round on DCUM

Yes, a clear violation of our social contract as to the strict IQ hierarchy we all have agreed prevails in DCUMland. Very concerning indeed.

You make fun, but people here make so many excuses for academically mediocre recruits and it is unfathomable to me. If a mom posted that she wanted her son to enter Yale with a 3.6 and good extracurriculars, people would laugh her off. But because a kid can play ice hockey, now he's very bright and a strong recruit for the school? This isn't Auburn we are discussing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much better odds for ice hockey and lacrosse players: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx

But you're not going to learn lacrosse overnight. The thing with these football players is that they barely even play football. They started in 9th grade (if that). The Ivy lacrosse recruits have put in a decade of travel lacrosse. That is a LOT of tournaments and a lot of money.

Most Ivy League football recruits have also played the sport for years. It’s only the freakishly large kids who are taken with little to no experience. Not many of us have 6’5 kids weighing over 250 lbs.

[Anonymous]

Hmm... there is height/athleticism in my family and my son is 6'5"... does anyone know of an Ivy that has a surfing/pot-smoking/wandering around cradling a lacrosse stick team? Then he'll be set!

[Anonymous]

No thanks. We like their brains. They do crew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmm... there is height/athleticism in my family and my son is 6'5"... does anyone know of an Ivy that has a surfing/pot-smoking/wandering around cradling a lacrosse stick team? Then he'll be set!

lol...was thinking along similar lines. I have a 6-5 son and no I'm not channeling him toward or sacrificing him to this brutal sport so he can get into an Ivy. It's not at all worth it and the fact that it's suggested is deranged.

[Anonymous]

End athletic recruitment in US Colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much better odds for ice hockey and lacrosse players: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx

But you're not going to learn lacrosse overnight. The thing with these football players is that they barely even play football. They started in 9th grade (if that). The Ivy lacrosse recruits have put in a decade of travel lacrosse. That is a LOT of tournaments and a lot of money.

Most Ivy League football recruits have also played the sport for years. It’s only the freakishly large kids who are taken with little to no experience. Not many of us have 6’5 kids weighing over 250 lbs.

We prefer genetically blessed offspring, but sure go with freakishly large.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much better odds for ice hockey and lacrosse players: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx

But you're not going to learn lacrosse overnight. The thing with these football players is that they barely even play football. They started in 9th grade (if that). The Ivy lacrosse recruits have put in a decade of travel lacrosse. That is a LOT of tournaments and a lot of money.

The one Ivy lacrosse recruit I knew personally started playing in 9th grade (maybe 8th). Good athlete but not spectacular. Very, very smart.

Must have been a long time ago, now that most of the men’s Ivy lacrosse teams are ranked in the T25, that doesn’t happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much better odds for ice hockey and lacrosse players: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx

But you're not going to learn lacrosse overnight. The thing with these football players is that they barely even play football. They started in 9th grade (if that). The Ivy lacrosse recruits have put in a decade of travel lacrosse. That is a LOT of tournaments and a lot of money.

Most Ivy League football recruits have also played the sport for years. It’s only the freakishly large kids who are taken with little to no experience. Not many of us have 6’5 kids weighing over 250 lbs.

Not true. Most kids start football in 9th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much better odds for ice hockey and lacrosse players: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx

But you're not going to learn lacrosse overnight. The thing with these football players is that they barely even play football. They started in 9th grade (if that). The Ivy lacrosse recruits have put in a decade of travel lacrosse. That is a LOT of tournaments and a lot of money.

The one Ivy lacrosse recruit I knew personally started playing in 9th grade (maybe 8th). Good athlete but not spectacular. Very, very smart.

Must have been a long time ago, now that most of the men’s Ivy lacrosse teams are ranked in the T25, that doesn’t happen.

Agreed. The Ivy lacrosse recruits I know (from a prep school so I know about a half dozen over 2 years) all played for at least a decade and on top clubs. They did not pick up lacrosse in 9th grade.