Level 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they tell us which subject our kid is being pulled out for? We just got the invitation to level III services but no indication on which subject.

LIII covers more critical thinking skills and deeper dives into LA, Science, and Social Studies subjects. It is supposed to be a 1 hour pull out once a week but it sounds like that does not happen at most schools. DS meet pretty regularly and covered most of the special programs that are found in the LIV classroom. He always enjoyed the pull out and worked on projects with his friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I received level 3 and Advanced Math acceptance letters last week for my 2nd-grade child. We recently relocated to the FCPS district in the middle of the school year, so my child had missed 2nd grade AAP testing and was evaluated for level 3. As for Advanced Math, I didn’t find my child’s first & only iReady score high, but her grades are good. I’m curious to see the iReady scores in May, then we’ll decide about the level 4 application in the fall since my child is eligible for the “retake” of CogAT.

What school? I would love if people who have received Level 3 notifications could say what school. I promise you we won't be able to tell who you are. Nobody will know.

I find it puzzling why some people are so conservative about sharing certain types of information. Especially since it’s nearly impossible to track every reply back to an individual, even Sherlock Holmes would struggle with just the name of a school! yesterday the school sent an envelope home with my child for Level 3 and guess what ? The school is Spring Hill . Now are you able to know my kid between maybe more than 300 kids 😅

There are 70 kids in my kids class. A small percentage is invited into LIII and a smaller number were selected for LIV services. Stating my kids gender halves the number of possible kids that I could be discussing. Saying the school or my kids gender when discussing anything critical would make it pretty easy to narrow down what parent was posting. You are at a school with 300 kids. You might have 60 or so kids in LIII so it is easier to stay anonymous when discussing what is happening in your program.

[Anonymous]

It’s just some rando ‘creative, critical thinking’ exercise. It really is meaningless and a ‘head nod’ to the parent that we have some excellent program here that differentiates to all students. It’s all quite poorly executed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just some rando ‘creative, critical thinking’ exercise. It really is meaningless and a ‘head nod’ to the parent that we have some excellent program here that differentiates to all students. It’s all quite poorly executed.

It sounds meaningless and it probably is. But my kid would probably love getting pulled out for creative thinking exercises once in a while. Sad to hear it isn't executed well.

I got the invitation earlier this week. I had hoped she would be offered advanced math because she always tests at 99% for all the ireadys and cogat/nnat. She does struggle a lot with reading. I guess level 3 is her consolation prize.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child got a notification for Level 3 services. The email itself is vague as to what it is. Is that just the one hour a week pullout? Would they send a separate email for advanced math placement?

Our notification was also vague, so I followed up with our AART. My takeaways:

1. The Level 3 pull-outs are generally one hour per week, but could be more or less. Level 3 encompasses all subjects. I view it as "creative learning" time similar to Level 2 pull-outs, but on a more consistent basis.
2. The other factor for Level 3 is clustering. The school will try to place a small group cohort of Level 3 kids in each class -- meaning that the teacher can also differentiate lesson plans and give "advanced" work to that group.
3. Advanced math is a separate thing from Level 3. It will be based on a pre-test at the start of the year, teacher recommendations and other data (perhaps i-ready scores?). I gather that the group selected for Advanced Math won't start meeting until week 3 or 4 or so of the new school year. Advanced math means that all of the kids who qualify will "switch classes" for math time, and advanced math will be taught by one designated teacher. You would think that many Level 3 kids would also qualify for advanced math, but it is a separate process.

I’m not contradicting you, but our AART said that it’s progressive, meaning that L3 services include at least what you’d get in L2. It’s intended for kids that “need” advanced academic instruction in all core subjects vs. just the subject- specific differentiation that comes with L2. In other words, L3 includes advanced math. Wonder which one is accurate?

There is some math in LIII, DS told us about a project he was working on in LIII that involved different bases in math. This was in third grade. It was integrated with a LA and science project. So there was math but it was not math taught in Advanced Math. But LIII is not teaching math, it is working on critical thinking skills and will include some math in those lessons.

Advanced Math is a separate path. In 5th grade the kids in Advanced Math will do 6th grade math. In 6th grade they will do 7th grade math and will test to see if they are ready for Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just some rando ‘creative, critical thinking’ exercise. It really is meaningless and a ‘head nod’ to the parent that we have some excellent program here that differentiates to all students. It’s all quite poorly executed.

It sounds meaningless and it probably is. But my kid would probably love getting pulled out for creative thinking exercises once in a while. Sad to hear it isn't executed well.

I got the invitation earlier this week. I had hoped she would be offered advanced math because she always tests at 99% for all the ireadys and cogat/nnat. She does struggle a lot with reading. I guess level 3 is her consolation prize.

Advanced Math tends to be decided in the fall. Many schools will use SOL scores and a final in class math assessment in the first month to firm up the Advanced Math groupings.

Some schools execute LIII well. DS was pulled out regularly at his school and seemed to enjoy the program. He brought home different projects that they worked on. The kids are less thrilled with the new AART but that is style thing and not a program thing.

[Anonymous]

Should I have heard already if my kid didnt get level 3 services for next year? He is a rising 3rd grader with a 99th percentile Quant score, a 138 overall, and iReady math that’s always somewhere in the 94-98 percentile range. I don’t understand how he is not a shoe in for advanced math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should I have heard already if my kid didnt get level 3 services for next year? He is a rising 3rd grader with a 99th percentile Quant score, a 138 overall, and iReady math that’s always somewhere in the 94-98 percentile range. I don’t understand how he is not a shoe in for advanced math.

My child has similar stats and only received Level II

[Anonymous]

I think PPs have said advanced math is decided at the start of next school year.

So a child could be level ii or iii and then also be invited to advanced math

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I received level 3 and Advanced Math acceptance letters last week for my 2nd-grade child. We recently relocated to the FCPS district in the middle of the school year, so my child had missed 2nd grade AAP testing and was evaluated for level 3. As for Advanced Math, I didn’t find my child’s first & only iReady score high, but her grades are good. I’m curious to see the iReady scores in May, then we’ll decide about the level 4 application in the fall since my child is eligible for the “retake” of CogAT.

What school? I would love if people who have received Level 3 notifications could say what school. I promise you we won't be able to tell who you are. Nobody will know.

I find it puzzling why some people are so conservative about sharing certain types of information. Especially since it’s nearly impossible to track every reply back to an individual, even Sherlock Holmes would struggle with just the name of a school! yesterday the school sent an envelope home with my child for Level 3 and guess what ? The school is Spring Hill . Now are you able to know my kid between maybe more than 300 kids 😅

There are 70 kids in my kids class. A small percentage is invited into LIII and a smaller number were selected for LIV services. Stating my kids gender halves the number of possible kids that I could be discussing. Saying the school or my kids gender when discussing anything critical would make it pretty easy to narrow down what parent was posting. You are at a school with 300 kids. You might have 60 or so kids in LIII so it is easier to stay anonymous when discussing what is happening in your program.

So you're worried that people will narrow you down to one of 15 moms in your school and know that you care about your child's education? Oh no, no that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think PPs have said advanced math is decided at the start of next school year.

So a child could be level ii or iii and then also be invited to advanced math

Could I child be Level II and invited to advanced math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just some rando ‘creative, critical thinking’ exercise. It really is meaningless and a ‘head nod’ to the parent that we have some excellent program here that differentiates to all students. It’s all quite poorly executed.

It sounds meaningless and it probably is. But my kid would probably love getting pulled out for creative thinking exercises once in a while. Sad to hear it isn't executed well.

I got the invitation earlier this week. I had hoped she would be offered advanced math because she always tests at 99% for all the ireadys and cogat/nnat. She does struggle a lot with reading. I guess level 3 is her consolation prize.

Advanced Math tends to be decided in the fall. Many schools will use SOL scores and a final in class math assessment in the first month to firm up the Advanced Math groupings.

Some schools execute LIII well. DS was pulled out regularly at his school and seemed to enjoy the program. He brought home different projects that they worked on. The kids are less thrilled with the new AART but that is style thing and not a program thing.

So does Advanced Math not exist until 5th grade? Should those of us with 2nd graders not be worried about this yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just some rando ‘creative, critical thinking’ exercise. It really is meaningless and a ‘head nod’ to the parent that we have some excellent program here that differentiates to all students. It’s all quite poorly executed.

It sounds meaningless and it probably is. But my kid would probably love getting pulled out for creative thinking exercises once in a while. Sad to hear it isn't executed well.

I got the invitation earlier this week. I had hoped she would be offered advanced math because she always tests at 99% for all the ireadys and cogat/nnat. She does struggle a lot with reading. I guess level 3 is her consolation prize.

Advanced Math tends to be decided in the fall. Many schools will use SOL scores and a final in class math assessment in the first month to firm up the Advanced Math groupings.

Some schools execute LIII well. DS was pulled out regularly at his school and seemed to enjoy the program. He brought home different projects that they worked on. The kids are less thrilled with the new AART but that is style thing and not a program thing.

So does Advanced Math not exist until 5th grade? Should those of us with 2nd graders not be worried about this yet?

I thought Advanced Math starts in 5th grade, so I got confused when I received the Advanced Math acceptance letter. The letter states that Advanced Math status will be reviewed annually though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just some rando ‘creative, critical thinking’ exercise. It really is meaningless and a ‘head nod’ to the parent that we have some excellent program here that differentiates to all students. It’s all quite poorly executed.

It sounds meaningless and it probably is. But my kid would probably love getting pulled out for creative thinking exercises once in a while. Sad to hear it isn't executed well.

I got the invitation earlier this week. I had hoped she would be offered advanced math because she always tests at 99% for all the ireadys and cogat/nnat. She does struggle a lot with reading. I guess level 3 is her consolation prize.

Advanced Math tends to be decided in the fall. Many schools will use SOL scores and a final in class math assessment in the first month to firm up the Advanced Math groupings.

Some schools execute LIII well. DS was pulled out regularly at his school and seemed to enjoy the program. He brought home different projects that they worked on. The kids are less thrilled with the new AART but that is style thing and not a program thing.

So does Advanced Math not exist until 5th grade? Should those of us with 2nd graders not be worried about this yet?

I thought Advanced Math starts in 5th grade, so I got confused when I received the Advanced Math acceptance letter. The letter states that Advanced Math status will be reviewed annually though.

Would you mind sharing what this says? Is your child a 2nd grader? My 2nd grader received notification of Level II pull outs in math next year.

[Anonymous]

Advanced math options vary by school. All LII and LIII are very school dependent, unfortunately.