Why Does MCPS Enroll Kids in CES from Schools that Have ELC

[Anonymous]

Well, regardless of whether you're happy with it, ELC is going away soon. Especially since MCPS paid a boat load on the new reading curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, regardless of whether you're happy with it, ELC is going away soon. Especially since MCPS paid a boat load on the new reading curriculum.

Niki Hazel said ELC is staying for 2024-25. TBD whether they use it after that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My ES has ELC for all 4th and 5th graders yet kids are still being targeted from the lottery to enroll in our local CES (Coldspring). Why? Seems ridiculous and duplicative. They should be targeting kids at schools that don't offer ELC. As a result, we'll lose kids from our school and therefore staff if we have a lower student population and with cuts you betcha we'll be cut staff. Unreal

All schools have ELC except for immersion programs. And CES is more than just ELC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ES has ELC. They received a pullout ONCE in semester. it is another genius idea of MCPS to create ELCs at home schools. Honors for All. ELC for All. AP tests free for All.

What do you mean ELC for all? My DD had to be selected and invited to ELC based on her MAP-R scores. Kids who are not in ELC leave the classroom and kids from other classes come into my DD's class for ELC. Are some schools doing ELC across the board with no criteria and separation of students?

Yes. CCES does this for its general education program. All students are in ELC. Which makes it nothing like what is offered down the hall for students in the CES program. Also, at least at CCES, the CES program enrolls everyone in compacted math and they move faster than those in the gen ed program, so they have time for enrichment beyond just what Eureka does. And they have enriched social studies and science classes, even though I don't think those are officially part of CES. It is completely different from ELC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here--to be clear, I'm totally fine with my kid not going to CES. I prefer my home school. I'm just questioning the value of it if you're able to get enrichment through your home school. Also it seems weird that the staff at my home school are basically encouraging kids to go to the CES when wouldn't that drive down their own staff needs? Maybe they do want to get rid of the parents more than the kids...

The enrichment you think your kid will get is not = to a CES. A couple of other threads on this topic came up in last few months on dcum. Yes, to weed parents.

I'm considering trying to lottery into a CES to avoid uncontrolled behavioral issues in the home school population. No idea why the school would want us to go though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here--to be clear, I'm totally fine with my kid not going to CES. I prefer my home school. I'm just questioning the value of it if you're able to get enrichment through your home school. Also it seems weird that the staff at my home school are basically encouraging kids to go to the CES when wouldn't that drive down their own staff needs? Maybe they do want to get rid of the parents more than the kids...

The enrichment you think your kid will get is not = to a CES. A couple of other threads on this topic came up in last few months on dcum. Yes, to weed parents.

I'm considering trying to lottery into a CES to avoid uncontrolled behavioral issues in the home school population. No idea why the school would want us to go though.

You don't have to try to lottery. Everyone is evaluated. Students who are deemed qualified are placed into a lottery and will be offered a spot if their name is selected. But very few people actually get a slot. Don't count on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here--to be clear, I'm totally fine with my kid not going to CES. I prefer my home school. I'm just questioning the value of it if you're able to get enrichment through your home school. Also it seems weird that the staff at my home school are basically encouraging kids to go to the CES when wouldn't that drive down their own staff needs? Maybe they do want to get rid of the parents more than the kids...

The enrichment you think your kid will get is not = to a CES. A couple of other threads on this topic came up in last few months on dcum. Yes, to weed parents.

I'm considering trying to lottery into a CES to avoid uncontrolled behavioral issues in the home school population. No idea why the school would want us to go though.

You don't have to try to lottery. Everyone is evaluated. Students who are deemed qualified are placed into a lottery and will be offered a spot if their name is selected. But very few people actually get a slot. Don't count on it.

All I mean is I'll take a serious look at it if offered for that reason alone. I agree unlikely prospect!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here--to be clear, I'm totally fine with my kid not going to CES. I prefer my home school. I'm just questioning the value of it if you're able to get enrichment through your home school. Also it seems weird that the staff at my home school are basically encouraging kids to go to the CES when wouldn't that drive down their own staff needs? Maybe they do want to get rid of the parents more than the kids...

The enrichment you think your kid will get is not = to a CES. A couple of other threads on this topic came up in last few months on dcum. Yes, to weed parents.

I'm considering trying to lottery into a CES to avoid uncontrolled behavioral issues in the home school population. No idea why the school would want us to go though.

You don't have to try to lottery. Everyone is evaluated. Students who are deemed qualified are placed into a lottery and will be offered a spot if their name is selected. But very few people actually get a slot. Don't count on it.

All I mean is I'll take a serious look at it if offered for that reason alone. I agree unlikely prospect!

Oh I would no doubt accept a spot for my kid if offered. You can always go back to your home school if it doesn’t work out

[Anonymous]

If your kid doesn't have behavioral issues but every kid in his/her class does? If so, the school may be able to assist in TRYInG to get your kid to go to a CES as long as kid meets whatever criteria MCPS has these days for CES (map-r scores, grades etc). Talk to your school.

[Anonymous]

Is this true all lottery selected? Our school has local CES( one of the few mcps). My kid is selected as GT from 2nd grade gifted letter this year. Does my kid have a higher chance to be in local CES program at home school? Does my school have ELC program or not?

Do teacher's kids , PTA officer kids or active volunteer's kids have higher chances in CES?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this true all lottery selected? Our school has local CES( one of the few mcps). My kid is selected as GT from 2nd grade gifted letter this year. Does my kid have a higher chance to be in local CES program at home school? Does my school have ELC program or not?

Do teacher's kids , PTA officer kids or active volunteer's kids have higher chances in CES?

Our school has never told us anything about ELC , CES, GT . There is lack of transparency issue. We are at Rachel Carson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this true all lottery selected? Our school has local CES( one of the few mcps). My kid is selected as GT from 2nd grade gifted letter this year. Does my kid have a higher chance to be in local CES program at home school? Does my school have ELC program or not?

Do teacher's kids , PTA officer kids or active volunteer's kids have higher chances in CES?

Our school has never told us anything about ELC , CES, GT . There is lack of transparency issue. We are at Rachel Carson.

If it’s not a two-way immersion school, then yes it is offered there to students who are identified for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here--to be clear, I'm totally fine with my kid not going to CES. I prefer my home school. I'm just questioning the value of it if you're able to get enrichment through your home school. Also it seems weird that the staff at my home school are basically encouraging kids to go to the CES when wouldn't that drive down their own staff needs? Maybe they do want to get rid of the parents more than the kids...

The enrichment you think your kid will get is not = to a CES. A couple of other threads on this topic came up in last few months on dcum. Yes, to weed parents.

I'm considering trying to lottery into a CES to avoid uncontrolled behavioral issues in the home school population. No idea why the school would want us to go though.

You don't have to try to lottery. Everyone is evaluated. Students who are deemed qualified are placed into a lottery and will be offered a spot if their name is selected. But very few people actually get a slot. Don't count on it.

The lottery is an absolute joke. Kids who aren't even identified as GT can also get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this true all lottery selected? Our school has local CES( one of the few mcps). My kid is selected as GT from 2nd grade gifted letter this year. Does my kid have a higher chance to be in local CES program at home school? Does my school have ELC program or not?

Do teacher's kids , PTA officer kids or active volunteer's kids have higher chances in CES?

Our school has never told us anything about ELC , CES, GT . There is lack of transparency issue. We are at Rachel Carson.

Did you not get the letter from Central Office back in January?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here--to be clear, I'm totally fine with my kid not going to CES. I prefer my home school. I'm just questioning the value of it if you're able to get enrichment through your home school. Also it seems weird that the staff at my home school are basically encouraging kids to go to the CES when wouldn't that drive down their own staff needs? Maybe they do want to get rid of the parents more than the kids...

The enrichment you think your kid will get is not = to a CES. A couple of other threads on this topic came up in last few months on dcum. Yes, to weed parents.

I'm considering trying to lottery into a CES to avoid uncontrolled behavioral issues in the home school population. No idea why the school would want us to go though.

You don't have to try to lottery. Everyone is evaluated. Students who are deemed qualified are placed into a lottery and will be offered a spot if their name is selected. But very few people actually get a slot. Don't count on it.

The lottery is an absolute joke. Kids who aren't even identified as GT can also get in.

GT students are by law required to be provided with enriched instruction. That said, accelerated and enriched instruction is not ONLY for GT students.

And it’s noted by AEI: “ Gifted and Talented designation is not a consideration or requirement for participation in the ELC or the CES lottery process.“