St. Alban's

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Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.


Condescension? Snobbery from the gang which send their boys to St Alban's? Imagine that.

This is the same crowd that concerns itself with what schools are in or out of "The Big Three" or "Big Five".

This is the same crowd that argues that the Catholic high schools are not really "private" schools as they understand the term.

This is the heartland of "Ivy-trained" and the "Ivy-obsessed".
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Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.

I’m not amused that people are making a grammatical mistake. I find it interesting that the church and the school that are 100 feet from each other style it two different ways. I wondered why that was but never seriously enough to bother looking it up. You seem a little sensitive.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.


Condescension? Snobbery from the gang which send their boys to St Alban's? Imagine that.

This is the same crowd that concerns itself with what schools are in or out of "The Big Three" or "Big Five".

This is the same crowd that argues that the Catholic high schools are not really "private" schools as they understand the term.

This is the heartland of "Ivy-trained" and the "Ivy-obsessed".


No one said anything about snobbery. Some people at STA are snobs. Some aren’t. Some people are Ivy-obsessed. Some could care less.

You seem dim, full of stereotypes, and resentful of people who are wealthier than you.

Your insecurity and resentment just provide fodder for the snobs because you sound unhinged. Maybe get some help?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.

I’m not amused that people are making a grammatical mistake. I find it interesting that the church and the school that are 100 feet from each other style it two different ways. I wondered why that was but never seriously enough to bother looking it up. You seem a little sensitive.


Nah, you’re just disavowing your condescension ex post facto. You referenced the quote above that described the lack of apostrophe as a grammatical error, which is an ignorant assumption. You being a “grammar/word nerd” of course knew better. Except you didn’t.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.


Condescension? Snobbery from the gang which send their boys to St Alban's? Imagine that.

This is the same crowd that concerns itself with what schools are in or out of "The Big Three" or "Big Five".

This is the same crowd that argues that the Catholic high schools are not really "private" schools as they understand the term.

This is the heartland of "Ivy-trained" and the "Ivy-obsessed".


No one said anything about snobbery. Some people at STA are snobs. Some aren’t. Some people are Ivy-obsessed. Some could care less.

You seem dim, full of stereotypes, and resentful of people who are wealthier than you.

Your insecurity and resentment just provide fodder for the snobs because you sound unhinged. Maybe get some help?


The thing about stereotypes is that they work because they are generally true.

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Anonymous wrote:How difficult is it to gain admission during an entry year (9th grade)? My DS is very intelligent but has been in public for ES and MS. Would appreciate any insights as well as any experiences others have had recently with their DS. Thanks!


For any boys transferring in from public, be prepared for a significant jump in workload and sky high expectations for writing skills. Boys in 9th are expected to write at the level of college sophomores. Several of your classes will be taught at a freshman college level: history, biology, English, Spanish/French. Geometry is taught at such a high level that freshmen from public schools who are repeating have trouble with it.


Big exaggeration. Huge.


So you say, non-STA parent.


If you truly believe that your 9th grader at STA has writing skills on par with a college sophomore, I have some lovely oceanfront property in Kansas that you would jump at.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.

At least they didn’t call it StA’s.


lol
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”


Or it was a typo in 1877 when the city was granted its charter:

https://tinyurl.com/3xy6x9xs
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.


Condescension? Snobbery from the gang which send their boys to St Alban's? Imagine that.

This is the same crowd that concerns itself with what schools are in or out of "The Big Three" or "Big Five".

This is the same crowd that argues that the Catholic high schools are not really "private" schools as they understand the term.

This is the heartland of "Ivy-trained" and the "Ivy-obsessed".


No one said anything about snobbery. Some people at STA are snobs. Some aren’t. Some people are Ivy-obsessed. Some could care less.

You seem dim, full of stereotypes, and resentful of people who are wealthier than you.

Your insecurity and resentment just provide fodder for the snobs because you sound unhinged. Maybe get some help?


Yeah, no.
Anonymous
So how is the DEI picture at STA?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So how is the DEI picture at STA?


Pretty bad
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Anonymous wrote:Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”


Or it was a typo in 1877 when the city was granted its charter:

https://tinyurl.com/3xy6x9xs


Or the clerk chose to honor the cathedral and town’s traditional spelling.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.


Condescension? Snobbery from the gang which send their boys to St Alban's? Imagine that.

This is the same crowd that concerns itself with what schools are in or out of "The Big Three" or "Big Five".

This is the same crowd that argues that the Catholic high schools are not really "private" schools as they understand the term.

This is the heartland of "Ivy-trained" and the "Ivy-obsessed".


No one said anything about snobbery. Some people at STA are snobs. Some aren’t. Some people are Ivy-obsessed. Some could care less.

You seem dim, full of stereotypes, and resentful of people who are wealthier than you.

Your insecurity and resentment just provide fodder for the snobs because you sound unhinged. Maybe get some help?


Yeah, no.


Clearly you’re not a parent there. I know plenty of non-Ivy obsessed parents who are there for the quality of education, not where the kids will go to school. Granted some of these parents are mega millionaires whose kids are already set for life but you are going to encounter the full range. I’d say more than 1/2 the parents are non-Ivy-obsessed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How difficult is it to gain admission during an entry year (9th grade)? My DS is very intelligent but has been in public for ES and MS. Would appreciate any insights as well as any experiences others have had recently with their DS. Thanks!


For any boys transferring in from public, be prepared for a significant jump in workload and sky high expectations for writing skills. Boys in 9th are expected to write at the level of college sophomores. Several of your classes will be taught at a freshman college level: history, biology, English, Spanish/French. Geometry is taught at such a high level that freshmen from public schools who are repeating have trouble with it.


Big exaggeration. Huge.


So you say, non-STA parent.


If you truly believe that your 9th grader at STA has writing skills on par with a college sophomore, I have some lovely oceanfront property in Kansas that you would jump at.


I didn’t say that the kids did have writing skills at that level, honey. I said that’s what the expectations are from the teachers. Almost all kids at STA get B’s and C’s in English their freshmen year because they don’t meet those expectations. It’s brutal.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:OP - it is St. Albans. No apostrophe.


You are correct, but one has to wonder who made that grammatical error. I mean, the saint's name was St. Alban. From where does the "St. Albans" in "St. Albans School" come from if not intended to be possessive of St. Alban?

Note that the adjacent church is "St. Alban's Church."

Yes, that’s always made me curious and kind of amused. As a grammar/word nerd I find it interesting to see which of the various saint/bishop-named schools use the possessive form and which don’t. Such as how we ended up with St Stephen’s and St Agnes School when the two schools—one possessive and one not—merged. But STA may be unique in using the S but not the apostrophe.


If you were curious perhaps you should have explored a bit more. St. Albans draws its name from St. Albans Cathedral and the town named after St. Alban, founded some time in the late 8th century.

Apostrophes were not introduced into written English until the 16th century. The name of the cathedral and the town in England predates the apostrophe and to this day is “St. Albans Cathedral” and the town is “St. Albans.”

When St. Albans School was founded, it was named after the English cathedral. Hence, it is also spelled without the apostrophe.

You’re right, I wasn’t curious enough to bother looking it up. Thanks for the history lesson, that’s pretty interesting. I could have done without the side of condescension, but the info is appreciated all the same.


Perhaps you could have avoided the snarky know-it-all tone and being amused that people were making grammatical errors by not using the apostrophe. Some might call it condescension.


Condescension? Snobbery from the gang which send their boys to St Alban's? Imagine that.

This is the same crowd that concerns itself with what schools are in or out of "The Big Three" or "Big Five".

This is the same crowd that argues that the Catholic high schools are not really "private" schools as they understand the term.

This is the heartland of "Ivy-trained" and the "Ivy-obsessed".


No one said anything about snobbery. Some people at STA are snobs. Some aren’t. Some people are Ivy-obsessed. Some could care less.

You seem dim, full of stereotypes, and resentful of people who are wealthier than you.

Your insecurity and resentment just provide fodder for the snobs because you sound unhinged. Maybe get some help?


Yeah, no.


Clearly you’re not a parent there. I know plenty of non-Ivy obsessed parents who are there for the quality of education, not where the kids will go to school. Granted some of these parents are mega millionaires whose kids are already set for life but you are going to encounter the full range. I’d say more than 1/2 the parents are non-Ivy-obsessed.


Only slightly less than half are Ivy obsessed? The place must be packed with “just us regular folks” who would perfectly OK with Duke, Northwestern or Georgetown.

Just park your MB over there with the other ones and come on in. The water (Perrier) is just fine.

Not much funnier than the Elite pointing to others with more money as proof they aren’t in the same crowd.
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