TJ Admissions Roundup

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everything the user accesses is covered in the agreement. Including the test questions.

https://insightassessment.com/policies/
“Test Taker Interface User Agreement

In this agreement, each person who accesses this interface is called a “user,” and whatever a user accesses is called an “instrument.”

Copyright Protected: The user acknowledges that this online interface and everything in it are proprietary business property of the California Academic Press LLC and are protected by international copyrights. Except as permitted by purchased use licenses, the user agrees not to reproduce, distribute, hack, harm, limit, alter, or edit this interface or any part of any instrument or results report, table or analysis stored in, generated by, or delivered through this interface.

Non-Disclosure and Non-Compete Agreement: The user agrees not to copy, disclose, describe, imitate, replicate, or mirror this interface or this instrument(s) in whole or in part for any purpose. The user agrees not to create, design, develop, publish, market, or distribute any comparable or competitive instrument or instruments for a period of up to four years from the date of the user’s most recent access.

By clicking the “Agree” button, the user acknowledges reading, understanding, and agreeing to abide by the statements above and by all the policies and notices posted on Insight Assessment public website(s).”

Is any NDA binding on 14 year olds? Toothless contract. Even for an adult, NDA is effective only with threat of financial loss.

Even if there are no consequences, most of us would agree that stating that you will do or not do something and then doing the opposite of what you promised is not exactly meeting even a low bar for ethical standards. Should we teach our children to make promises and then not keep them?

You think anyone actually read those agreement and provided informed consent? Do you read apple/facebook/tiktok/instagram user agreements and NDAs? It's not a contract of equals.

When I sign an NDA, I make certain that I do not disclose information that I have promised not to disclose. What kind of integrity would I have if I did otherwise?

+1
It's about your own integrity and honoring your commitments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just shut it down. The old mousetrap sucked and so does the new one.

If you don't want to go, don't go. It's an awesome spot for many kids and just because there's no perfect solution to admission doesn't mean it should be shut down.

[Anonymous]

What is Curie?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is Curie?

Curie is a popular middle school math, english, and science enrichment center in Northern Virginia, that has gained significant popularity in last four years. There is an individual who has come up with a unique way to market Curie by spreading a false rumor about nonexistent cheating and test buying, and using the delusional story to draw the attention of prospective customers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Curie?

Curie is a popular middle school math, english, and science enrichment center in Northern Virginia, that has gained significant popularity in last four years. There is an individual who has come up with a unique way to market Curie by spreading a false rumor about nonexistent cheating and test buying, and using the delusional story to draw the attention of prospective customers.

The TJ students who posted on TJ vents, TJ newspaper, and DCUM? That’s quite a wild scheme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Curie?

Curie is a popular middle school math, english, and science enrichment center in Northern Virginia, that has gained significant popularity in last four years. There is an individual who has come up with a unique way to market Curie by spreading a false rumor about nonexistent cheating and test buying, and using the delusional story to draw the attention of prospective customers.

The TJ students who posted on TJ vents, TJ newspaper, and DCUM? That’s quite a wild scheme.

Anonymously post rumors and made up garbage on TJ vents, and make anonymous posts here on dcum referencing those anonymous posts? Validates everything is made up delusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Curie?

Curie is a popular middle school math, english, and science enrichment center in Northern Virginia, that has gained significant popularity in last four years. There is an individual who has come up with a unique way to market Curie by spreading a false rumor about nonexistent cheating and test buying, and using the delusional story to draw the attention of prospective customers.

The TJ students who posted on TJ vents, TJ newspaper, and DCUM? That’s quite a wild scheme.

Anonymously post rumors and made up garbage on TJ vents, and make anonymous posts here on dcum referencing those anonymous posts? Validates everything is made up delusion?

Not anonymous on vents or the newspaper

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Curie?

Curie is a popular middle school math, english, and science enrichment center in Northern Virginia, that has gained significant popularity in last four years. There is an individual who has come up with a unique way to market Curie by spreading a false rumor about nonexistent cheating and test buying, and using the delusional story to draw the attention of prospective customers.

The TJ students who posted on TJ vents, TJ newspaper, and DCUM? That’s quite a wild scheme.

Anonymously post rumors and made up garbage on TJ vents, and make anonymous posts here on dcum referencing those anonymous posts? Validates everything is made up delusion?

Not anonymous on vents or the newspaper

are you saying the individual who posts fake test buying story here is not part of the group who posts the same garbage on tj vents?

[Anonymous]

equity minions post on multiple websites, and reference their own posts as evidence to back their made up nonsense. Not a single artifact about cheating other than these anonymous forum/facebook fake posts.

[Anonymous]

5. TJ STUDENTS ADMIT SHARING QUANT-Q QUESTIONS
TJ students admitted both on DCUM and on Facebook, anonymously and with real name, that they shared quant-q test questions with a test prep company or they saw nearly identical questions on the test.
https://www.facebook.com/tjvents/posts/pfbid0jKy4hotXF8AxKwfHm2MAVi7e2yYoCqtrTTXPYsszAdQg6uMoTmReMidqyM1mpu9Bl

I also have screenshots but won’t share because they have student names on them.

https://www.tjtoday.org/23143/showcase/the-children-left-behind/
“ Families with more money can afford to give children that extra edge by signing them up for whatever prep classes they can find. They can pay money to tutoring organizations to teach their children test-taking skills, “skills learned outside of school,” and to access a cache of previous and example prompts, as I witnessed when I took TJ prep; even if prompts become outdated by test changes, even access to old prompts enables private tutoring pupils to gain an upper edge over others: pupils become accustomed to the format of the writing sections and gain an approximate idea of what to expect.”

[Anonymous]

It's amazing that people bought into the idea that a question and answer test for kids was uncrackable.

Ultimately the majority of the changes made to the admission process don't reflect a reaction to test prep for the QQ (1 of 3 tests in a multi-round process). This is just a distraction based on a handful of Facebook posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing that people bought into the idea that a question and answer test for kids was uncrackable.

Ultimately the majority of the changes made to the admission process don't reflect a reaction to test prep for the QQ (1 of 3 tests in a multi-round process). This is just a distraction based on a handful of Facebook posts.

It was one of multiple reasons.

By using a test that doesn’t provide public materials, they made the playing field less even. The opposite of their intentions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing that people bought into the idea that a question and answer test for kids was uncrackable.

Ultimately the majority of the changes made to the admission process don't reflect a reaction to test prep for the QQ (1 of 3 tests in a multi-round process). This is just a distraction based on a handful of Facebook posts.

But, why crack the test? Is it to give an unfair advantage to kids whose parents can pay these businesses?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing that people bought into the idea that a question and answer test for kids was uncrackable.

Ultimately the majority of the changes made to the admission process don't reflect a reaction to test prep for the QQ (1 of 3 tests in a multi-round process). This is just a distraction based on a handful of Facebook posts.

It was one of multiple reasons.

By using a test that doesn’t provide public materials, they made the playing field less even. The opposite of their intentions.

No, they were trying to make the field completely even. If no one can prep, everyone walks in with the same advance knowledge of the test: none. That makes for an even playing field.

It also give the school more useful information about the applicants in that the results show how the student handles questions they have never seen before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing that people bought into the idea that a question and answer test for kids was uncrackable.

Ultimately the majority of the changes made to the admission process don't reflect a reaction to test prep for the QQ (1 of 3 tests in a multi-round process). This is just a distraction based on a handful of Facebook posts.

It was one of multiple reasons.

By using a test that doesn’t provide public materials, they made the playing field less even. The opposite of their intentions.

+1 Their only motivation is to reach the race-balancing goals. If FCPS had doubts about the reliability of the trst, this should have been another reason to incorporate information from teachers' recommendations and other students' activities. They toss away students' information just to make it more convenient to reject qualified students.