Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

[Anonymous]

What does the home visit involve? Do they request to see the kid's bedroom? What are they looking for when they come to the home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does the home visit involve? Do they request to see the kid's bedroom? What are they looking for when they come to the home?

They're just looking to see that you and the kid actually live there. Yes, they might ask to see the bedroom and personal items. But it's not like CPS. They're not investigating your parenting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

Where does the phrase "boundary fraud" appear in the code?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

Where does the phrase "boundary fraud" appear in the code?

It’s not in the code above but see below what you are certifying when you sign

“I understand that if I provide false information or documentation, I can be referred to DC Office of the Inspector General for criminal prosecution or to the DC Office of the Attorney General for prosecution under the False Claims Act and under DC Code § 38-312 which provides that any person who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both a fine and imprisonment.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

Where does the phrase "boundary fraud" appear in the code?

DP. You have to lie on a government form to get into an OOB school falsely. That is perjury and possiby a false claim, and definitely in the code. There are lots of people who think that somehow there’s some loophole about lying about your domicile on the enrollment forms if you are still in DC, but that’s not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

Where does the phrase "boundary fraud" appear in the code?

It’s not in the code above but see below what you are certifying when you sign

“I understand that if I provide false information or documentation, I can be referred to DC Office of the Inspector General for criminal prosecution or to the DC Office of the Attorney General for prosecution under the False Claims Act and under DC Code § 38-312 which provides that any person who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both a fine and imprisonment.”

Is it really worth risking having a criminal record and/or losing your job if you have security clearance just to go to any DC public school, none of which are even that good. Seriously

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

Where does the phrase "boundary fraud" appear in the code?

It’s not in the code above but see below what you are certifying when you sign

“I understand that if I provide false information or documentation, I can be referred to DC Office of the Inspector General for criminal prosecution or to the DC Office of the Attorney General for prosecution under the False Claims Act and under DC Code § 38-312 which provides that any person who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both a fine and imprisonment.”

Where this started was "they can just add a penalty in the handbook." They cannot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

Where does the phrase "boundary fraud" appear in the code?

It’s not in the code above but see below what you are certifying when you sign

“I understand that if I provide false information or documentation, I can be referred to DC Office of the Inspector General for criminal prosecution or to the DC Office of the Attorney General for prosecution under the False Claims Act and under DC Code § 38-312 which provides that any person who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both a fine and imprisonment.”

Where this started was "they can just add a penalty in the handbook." They cannot.

Well they can send your kid back to the IB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the city was smart, they could also put in the manual that these families should pay back tuition for sending their kid to JR (OOB DC, MD, or VA resident) and fined x amount of money for residency fraud.

Rules are rules and there should be consequences if you break them.

You can be fined for residency fraud. It happens. But it doesn't include being OOB because that's not how the law is written. It would have to be changed but I can't imagine that's anyone's priority.

You don’t need a law. Put in the handbook the above for OOB DC residents and MD and VA residents.

"Chapter 3. Residency Requirement and Nonresident Tuition" of the DC code lays out requirements and penalties in great detail. The government can't just make up new reasons to fine you because they say so. You actually do have to change the law.

You are quoting residency fraud for out of the city.

I think there is also boundary fraud

Where does the phrase "boundary fraud" appear in the code?

It’s not in the code above but see below what you are certifying when you sign

“I understand that if I provide false information or documentation, I can be referred to DC Office of the Inspector General for criminal prosecution or to the DC Office of the Attorney General for prosecution under the False Claims Act and under DC Code § 38-312 which provides that any person who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both a fine and imprisonment.”

Where this started was "they can just add a penalty in the handbook." They cannot.

Well they can send your kid back to the IB

They should and they do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who works in a different DCPS school I'm surprised to see that an office is so far in processing their enrollment that they would get to this request.

sus.

+1. They’re not sending out investigators before the enrollment deadline. OP could be in Arizona still and legitimately enrolling. This is just a troll from the residency fraud brigade.

[Anonymous]

If you live IB for JR then there's nowhere they can send you. So that's not a concern for OP.

I've long been mystified by these DCPS home visits too. Like, what *are* they looking for, and how hard do they look? I'm not sure how I could prove to an inspector that my kid lives in my house, other than the documentation that I've already provided to DCPS. He doesn't pay rent or utilities or taxes. He has no receipts. I could show you his bedroom, but what proof do you have that it's his, other than my say so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who works in a different DCPS school I'm surprised to see that an office is so far in processing their enrollment that they would get to this request.

sus.

+1. They’re not sending out investigators before the enrollment deadline. OP could be in Arizona still and legitimately enrolling. This is just a troll from the residency fraud brigade.

Give it a rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you live IB for JR then there's nowhere they can send you. So that's not a concern for OP.

I've long been mystified by these DCPS home visits too. Like, what *are* they looking for, and how hard do they look? I'm not sure how I could prove to an inspector that my kid lives in my house, other than the documentation that I've already provided to DCPS. He doesn't pay rent or utilities or taxes. He has no receipts. I could show you his bedroom, but what proof do you have that it's his, other than my say so?

I don't think their concern is that you live there and your kid doesn't! But if it's a studio you rent but don't live in, or it's a house you rent out to tenants, or someplace a friend or relative lives but you don't, you may or may not be able to fake living there.