What topics missed from AAP 6th to Algebra 1 HN?

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, so be it, 7th graders enrolled in Algebra 1 HN.

How do you all suggest we get to equitable math where everyone at each grade level is enrolled in same math level, similar to how we currently have equitable English or Social Studies?


We should have Advanced Enlgish, Advanced Social Studies, and Advanced Science. It is crazy that we don't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, so be it, 7th graders enrolled in Algebra 1 HN.

How do you all suggest we get to equitable math where everyone at each grade level is enrolled in same math level, similar to how we currently have equitable English or Social Studies?


We should have Advanced Enlgish, Advanced Social Studies, and Advanced Science. It is crazy that we don't.


heh my post and I screwed up English. Sorry
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, so be it, 7th graders enrolled in Algebra 1 HN.

How do you all suggest we get to equitable math where everyone at each grade level is enrolled in same math level, similar to how we currently have equitable English or Social Studies?


We should have Advanced Enlgish, Advanced Social Studies, and Advanced Science. It is crazy that we don't.



We do. AA english 7 is a very different class from english 7
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, so be it, 7th graders enrolled in Algebra 1 HN.

How do you all suggest we get to equitable math where everyone at each grade level is enrolled in same math level, similar to how we currently have equitable English or Social Studies?


We should have Advanced Enlgish, Advanced Social Studies, and Advanced Science. It is crazy that we don't.


I thought that's what Honors is supposed to be? And the AAP level?

Or are you saying we should let kids enroll in English 9 Honors and Biology Honors in 8th grade?
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Anonymous wrote:None, they are covering 7th grade math in LIV/Advanced Math in 6th. The big difference is that they are moving into a HS paced course and the Teachers will expect them to keep up with that pace. I have a friend with an 8th grader taking Algebra. She said her child complains about the 7th graders all the time because they are not organized, don’t have the right materials, and it slows down the stat of class. The kids are able to do the material but they are less together. My friends advice to me was to work on that with my child if they end up in Algebra as a 7th grader.


My 7th grader and her friends complain about 8th graders who are slow to grasp concepts and ask obvious questions slowing down the class


The friend’s kid said the 7th graders can do the work, they just need more support because they have not had the experience in 7th grade that requires less support. The issue for most of the 7th graders taking HS classes in 7th grade is that they are used to more support and are not as well organized. I have heard this from the language Teacher, my kid is in language immersion, the 7th graders struggle with the pace and organizational demands of the class not the material per se.


And this is how you lose all credibility.


Really? I know a bunch of kids in my kids LI class who scored in the 99th percentile on the IAAT and will most likely be taking Algebra 1 as 7th graders. As I understand it, about 1/3 of the kids in the LI program at our school will end up in Algebra 1 in 7th grade and they tend to do well. The number of non-LI kids in Advanced Math is far smaller and very few of them move into Algebra 1 in 7th grade. Maybe other LI programs are different then ours but there is a good amount of math advancement that happens. We even place kids at TJ out of the LI program.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, so be it, 7th graders enrolled in Algebra 1 HN.

How do you all suggest we get to equitable math where everyone at each grade level is enrolled in same math level, similar to how we currently have equitable English or Social Studies?


We should have Advanced Enlgish, Advanced Social Studies, and Advanced Science. It is crazy that we don't.



We do. AA english 7 is a very different class from english 7


I mean in ES. Instead of LIV we should have Advanced Classes for each subject so that kids have the chance to be in classes that meet their ability level, not just the kids in Advanced Math.

I know that we introduce Honors and AAP classes in MS and that there are Honors and AP/IB in High School but there are kids in LIV because they are strong in LA but strugle with the math. There is no other option for them then LIV because we don't have Advanced LA. There are kids who would love to dive deeper into science or social studies concepts but the classes cannot because not all the kids are able to grasp the material as presented. Differentiation on a larger scale would engage more kids in ES and would benefit those kids in the long run.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know what, so be it, 7th graders enrolled in Algebra 1 HN.

How do you all suggest we get to equitable math where everyone at each grade level is enrolled in same math level, similar to how we currently have equitable English or Social Studies?


We should have Advanced Enlgish, Advanced Social Studies, and Advanced Science. It is crazy that we don't.



We do. AA english 7 is a very different class from english 7


I mean in ES. Instead of LIV we should have Advanced Classes for each subject so that kids have the chance to be in classes that meet their ability level, not just the kids in Advanced Math.

I know that we introduce Honors and AAP classes in MS and that there are Honors and AP/IB in High School but there are kids in LIV because they are strong in LA but strugle with the math. There is no other option for them then LIV because we don't have Advanced LA. There are kids who would love to dive deeper into science or social studies concepts but the classes cannot because not all the kids are able to grasp the material as presented. Differentiation on a larger scale would engage more kids in ES and would benefit those kids in the long run.


At our center school, in 5th and especially 6th grade, LA and Science and Social Studies (and Advanced Math) are integrated - so that they will read about a science project and learn math for it, read about a social studies issue and write an essay about it, etc. The class cannot be broken up into Advanced LA, Advanced Science, Advanced Social Studies the way that you want.

Although the new basal LA curriculum may interfere with that and may dismantle the integrated classes. Maybe you will get what you want, as AAP is and Level IV is taken apart.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None, they are covering 7th grade math in LIV/Advanced Math in 6th. The big difference is that they are moving into a HS paced course and the Teachers will expect them to keep up with that pace. I have a friend with an 8th grader taking Algebra. She said her child complains about the 7th graders all the time because they are not organized, don’t have the right materials, and it slows down the stat of class. The kids are able to do the material but they are less together. My friends advice to me was to work on that with my child if they end up in Algebra as a 7th grader.


My 7th grader and her friends complain about 8th graders who are slow to grasp concepts and ask obvious questions slowing down the class


The friend’s kid said the 7th graders can do the work, they just need more support because they have not had the experience in 7th grade that requires less support. The issue for most of the 7th graders taking HS classes in 7th grade is that they are used to more support and are not as well organized. I have heard this from the language Teacher, my kid is in language immersion, the 7th graders struggle with the pace and organizational demands of the class not the material per se.


And this is how you lose all credibility.


Really? I know a bunch of kids in my kids LI class who scored in the 99th percentile on the IAAT and will most likely be taking Algebra 1 as 7th graders. As I understand it, about 1/3 of the kids in the LI program at our school will end up in Algebra 1 in 7th grade and they tend to do well. The number of non-LI kids in Advanced Math is far smaller and very few of them move into Algebra 1 in 7th grade. Maybe other LI programs are different then ours but there is a good amount of math advancement that happens. We even place kids at TJ out of the LI program.

But TJ is looking to admit a diverse class, so applicant pool with algebra 1 in 8th supports it. When other kids do algebra 1 in 7th and get to TJ, they are too far ahead of algebra 1 in 8th admitted kids. That is the point of this entire discussion thread.
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