Trinity College V Connecticut College?

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Anonymous wrote:My godfather lived on Zion St (adjacent to campus) his whole life and when he was 72 he was mugged by his front steps and beaten to the point he was in a coma for weeks and never fully recovered. This was in 2006. I honestly don’t know if it’s better or worse in the area now.

That's horrible. I guess my question is, what about Trinity appeals to students that they're still willing to risk this?

- PP

I know a bunch of kids who went there, and none of them ever had anything happen to them. The students probably know where they can go to stay safe. It's not as though you read in the papers about Trinity kids getting murdered or having the shit kicked out of them.

Of course not. But like I said, even my child could tell it wasn't a safe area.

Its the same reason Johns Hopkins is off our list. Terrible location.

I went to Trinity. It is in a bad location - campus has always seemed safe, but even a block off campus can be very unsafe. As a result, the campus is very cloistered, which reinforces a lot of what is worst about the traditional Trinity student body.

I live adjacent to Johns Hopkins. It is in a very good location and quite safe. To say it is in a terrible location reflects either a misunderstanding of where the Homewood campus is located or a reflexive fear of cities that is not based in reality or data.

I live in Los Angeles and come from London. I love cities. That part of Baltimore, which I visited many times as a patient at Hopkins was one of the most horrific things I've ever witnessed in terms of human depravity and poverty.

Were you at the medical campus? Homewood is in another part of the city. There are much worse parts of Baltimore than Charles Village. Hell, there are much worse parts of DC than Charles Village.

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think of the most obnoxious prep school athletes ur kids know

That’s trinity in a nutshell

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Anonymous wrote:My godfather lived on Zion St (adjacent to campus) his whole life and when he was 72 he was mugged by his front steps and beaten to the point he was in a coma for weeks and never fully recovered. This was in 2006. I honestly don’t know if it’s better or worse in the area now.

That's horrible. I guess my question is, what about Trinity appeals to students that they're still willing to risk this?

- PP

I know a bunch of kids who went there, and none of them ever had anything happen to them. The students probably know where they can go to stay safe. It's not as though you read in the papers about Trinity kids getting murdered or having the shit kicked out of them.

Of course not. But like I said, even my child could tell it wasn't a safe area.

Its the same reason Johns Hopkins is off our list. Terrible location.

I went to Trinity. It is in a bad location - campus has always seemed safe, but even a block off campus can be very unsafe. As a result, the campus is very cloistered, which reinforces a lot of what is worst about the traditional Trinity student body.

I live adjacent to Johns Hopkins. It is in a very good location and quite safe. To say it is in a terrible location reflects either a misunderstanding of where the Homewood campus is located or a reflexive fear of cities that is not based in reality or data.

I live in Los Angeles and come from London. I love cities. That part of Baltimore, which I visited many times as a patient at Hopkins was one of the most horrific things I've ever witnessed in terms of human depravity and poverty.

The part of Baltimore where Johns Hopkins patients go is about 20 minutes away from the undergraduate campus (and it's not really that depraved, though there is crime and poverty and it's definitely not a nice area like Homewood)

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Anonymous wrote:My godfather lived on Zion St (adjacent to campus) his whole life and when he was 72 he was mugged by his front steps and beaten to the point he was in a coma for weeks and never fully recovered. This was in 2006. I honestly don’t know if it’s better or worse in the area now.

That's horrible. I guess my question is, what about Trinity appeals to students that they're still willing to risk this?

- PP

I know a bunch of kids who went there, and none of them ever had anything happen to them. The students probably know where they can go to stay safe. It's not as though you read in the papers about Trinity kids getting murdered or having the shit kicked out of them.

Of course not. But like I said, even my child could tell it wasn't a safe area.

Its the same reason Johns Hopkins is off our list. Terrible location.

I went to Trinity. It is in a bad location - campus has always seemed safe, but even a block off campus can be very unsafe. As a result, the campus is very cloistered, which reinforces a lot of what is worst about the traditional Trinity student body.

I live adjacent to Johns Hopkins. It is in a very good location and quite safe. To say it is in a terrible location reflects either a misunderstanding of where the Homewood campus is located or a reflexive fear of cities that is not based in reality or data.

I live in Los Angeles and come from London. I love cities. That part of Baltimore, which I visited many times as a patient at Hopkins was one of the most horrific things I've ever witnessed in terms of human depravity and poverty.

The part of Baltimore where Johns Hopkins patients go is about 20 minutes away from the undergraduate campus (and it's not really that depraved, though there is crime and poverty and it's definitely not a nice area like Homewood)

Charles village is nicer, but it isn't really nice either.

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Anonymous wrote:Visited them both last summer.

Trinity campus itself is quite nice. However, it's in a neighborhood that's really really not good.

Connecticut campus is drab. Buildings look quite tired. Surrounding area is not as bad as Trinity but still pretty depressing.

Ha. We did a USCGA visit last year. Overly sheltered DS was horrified by New London, but then we took a wrong turn in Hartford and he quickly decided it wasn't so bad after all. I'd be nervous sending my child to Trinity.

Is the area really that bad?

Oh yes. I live in Hartford and love it but no one goes to that part of the city if they don’t live, work or study there. It couldn’t possibly be less safe.

Worse than Capitol Hill or NOMA? Do the kids hang out off campus at all? Bars? Restaurants? Parties? Where do they go off campus?

Just drive even a few blocks from campus and you'll realize OMG do not go off campus ever, not happening. Think "worst part of Baltimore".

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Anonymous wrote:Visited them both last summer.

Trinity campus itself is quite nice. However, it's in a neighborhood that's really really not good.

Connecticut campus is drab. Buildings look quite tired. Surrounding area is not as bad as Trinity but still pretty depressing.

Odd comment - Conn usually gets high marks for its beautiful campus, quad and architecture, plus views of the Thames river and the sound on a nice day. But to each his own.

Comment is based on... actually visiting it rather than looking at photos online.

Hard to see the river from most of the campus, you have to cross Mohegan Ave to the athletics part of the campus to get good views of the river.

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Anonymous wrote:Visited them both last summer.

Trinity campus itself is quite nice. However, it's in a neighborhood that's really really not good.

Connecticut campus is drab. Buildings look quite tired. Surrounding area is not as bad as Trinity but still pretty depressing.

Odd comment - Conn usually gets high marks for its beautiful campus, quad and architecture, plus views of the Thames river and the sound on a nice day. But to each his own.

Comment is based on... actually visiting it rather than looking at photos online.

Hard to see the river from most of the campus, you have to cross Mohegan Ave to the athletics part of the campus to get good views of the river.

I'm the PP. Well my son graduated from there last year so I have been there many times. And I have stood on the quad and seen the sound. My son's single dorm room one year had a great view of the river, and yes I have been in the athletic facility which is directly on the river... so my opinion is not about "photos online". The architecture is beautiful, in greystone like much of Princeton.

But again, if you want to be insulting and assume I had not been there, fine, you do you. I just don't understand why that is necessary or why it gives you pleasure.

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I've never been to Trinity, so I can't offer a comparison. But I agree with the PP that Conn is very pretty, and you can see the sound from the main campus on a clear day. What I will say, though, is there is not a huge amount of capital improvement going on, as far as I could tell.

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Trinity has a beautiful campus. They are building a new gym which will be finished next year. The surrounding area isn’t great but I think overblown. West Hartford is really nice and ten minutes away for dates and going out. Mostly kids stay on campus and there’s a good social life there. Just as an aside Trinity has won sports championships already this year for men’s and women’s squash and also men’s basketball. It’s been fun.

I think it’s ranked above Conn College if you’re into rankings. And I agree it’s less artsy than Conn College and more Econ/business/psych focused.

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Anonymous wrote:Trinity has a beautiful campus. They are building a new gym which will be finished next year. The surrounding area isn’t great but I think overblown. West Hartford is really nice and ten minutes away for dates and going out. Mostly kids stay on campus and there’s a good social life there. Just as an aside Trinity has won sports championships already this year for men’s and women’s squash and also men’s basketball. It’s been fun.

I think it’s ranked above Conn College if you’re into rankings. And I agree it’s less artsy than Conn College and more Econ/business/psych focused.

I mean, Trinity is tied for 39th with 5 other schools, and then Union is 45th and Conn is 46th. They're basically ranked the same. Trinity does have a higher endowment, which is probably why there are more capital improvements going on.

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I think that Trinity is actually an under the radar great school that gets a bad wrap because of the neighborhood. People are starting to notice though because their admissions rates are up a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Visited them both last summer.

Trinity campus itself is quite nice. However, it's in a neighborhood that's really really not good.

Connecticut campus is drab. Buildings look quite tired. Surrounding area is not as bad as Trinity but still pretty depressing.

Downtown New London is quite sketchy, though it does have an Amtrak station. There are beaches near Conn and an arboretum on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never been to Trinity, so I can't offer a comparison. But I agree with the PP that Conn is very pretty, and you can see the sound from the main campus on a clear day. What I will say, though, is there is not a huge amount of capital improvement going on, as far as I could tell.

Well they don't have much of an endowment. And what they have, they're spending on bribing families to come with merit aid. They are on the bottom rung of the NE SLAC ladder, and it's a shrinking region demographically. This is a college that will be struggling within a decade.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never been to Trinity, so I can't offer a comparison. But I agree with the PP that Conn is very pretty, and you can see the sound from the main campus on a clear day. What I will say, though, is there is not a huge amount of capital improvement going on, as far as I could tell.

Well they don't have much of an endowment. And what they have, they're spending on bribing families to come with merit aid. They are on the bottom rung of the NE SLAC ladder, and it's a shrinking region demographically. This is a college that will be struggling within a decade.

Their endowment is more than $400M. Not as high as some, but similar to Bates and higher than most schools of its size. They are still a top 50 LAC and have the advantage of being in New England and being in the NESCAC. I don’t disagree that some SLACs will struggle over the next decade, but I don’t think Conn is one of them. But I guess we’ll see.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never been to Trinity, so I can't offer a comparison. But I agree with the PP that Conn is very pretty, and you can see the sound from the main campus on a clear day. What I will say, though, is there is not a huge amount of capital improvement going on, as far as I could tell.

Well they don't have much of an endowment. And what they have, they're spending on bribing families to come with merit aid. They are on the bottom rung of the NE SLAC ladder, and it's a shrinking region demographically. This is a college that will be struggling within a decade.

I hate to say this is true, but Union College which has a similar ranking just had a bond downgraded. Trinity might be in a stronger position due to its finance connection, but schools like Gettysburg, Conn, HWS or Union are in trouble. Kids even in the Northeast are pulling away from liberal arts colleges. Someone who a decade ago would have gone to Conn is looking at South Carolina or NC State.