Yield rates, some surprises

[Anonymous]

I wonder what UVA’s yield would be without ED? It used to be in the upper 30s

[Anonymous]

Nice list. The obvious point that the data informs is how attractive the school is to top students. Notre Dame is the clear top choice among Catholics.

Northeastern has the same EDI and EDII as BU but a much higher yield.

Rice and Harvey Mudd are question marks. Maybe Harvey Mudd has a crossover with Cal Tech? Rice one would think would be higher, especially because they do ED.

Among publics, UVA is right in line with its peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m astonished that Cornell & Tufts are as high as they are.

I was surprised by that too. Also to see Cornell and Dartmouth with higher percentages than Brown and Duke which are harder admits. Maybe they take more ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nice list. The obvious point that the data informs is how attractive the school is to top students. Notre Dame is the clear top choice among Catholics.

Northeastern has the same EDI and EDII as BU but a much higher yield.

Rice and Harvey Mudd are question marks. Maybe Harvey Mudd has a crossover with Cal Tech? Rice one would think would be higher, especially because they do ED.

Among publics, UVA is right in line with its peers.

But, what percentage of its class does each school take ED? That is the real question. You can't compare all ED schools in desirability just because they have ED.

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone who is not a college administrator or admissions officer care about yield rate?

[Anonymous]

Mudd is not a safety school by any means but it has long been a "second choice" for kids who really want CalTech or MIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mudd is not a safety school by any means but it has long been a "second choice" for kids who really want CalTech or MIT.

That makes sense. A real nice backup to MIT and/or Cal Tech. Certainly not a safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone who is not a college administrator or admissions officer care about yield rate?

Why do we care about anything? The data shows how "desirable" a school is. Use it for what it shows, or don't use it. It is just data.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone who is not a college administrator or admissions officer care about yield rate?

Why do we care about anything? The data shows how "desirable" a school is. Use it for what it shows, or don't use it. It is just data.

It’s more a reflection of ED and how much a school cares about yield protection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone who is not a college administrator or admissions officer care about yield rate?

Why do we care about anything? The data shows how "desirable" a school is. Use it for what it shows, or don't use it. It is just data.

It’s more a reflection of ED and how much a school cares about yield protection.

But ED itself is an indication of a desire to attend. If a kid/family is willing to exclude all other possibilities for a specific institution, there is no higher indication of interest. Likewise, if a school can attract such avid applicants and maintain their academic standards, the school must be doing something right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m astonished that Cornell & Tufts are as high as they are.

I was surprised by that too. Also to see Cornell and Dartmouth with higher percentages than Brown and Duke which are harder admits. Maybe they take more ED.

Cornell manages yield in regard to those applicants likely to be admitted to other ivies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone who is not a college administrator or admissions officer care about yield rate?

Why do we care about anything? The data shows how "desirable" a school is. Use it for what it shows, or don't use it. It is just data.

It’s more a reflection of ED and how much a school cares about yield protection.

But ED itself is an indication of a desire to attend. If a kid/family is willing to exclude all other possibilities for a specific institution, there is no higher indication of interest. Likewise, if a school can attract such avid applicants and maintain their academic standards, the school must be doing something right.

But families feel they have to game the system. If they like School A best, but have better odds at School B, especially if they apply early decision, they might aim for School B. Does that mean they prefer School B?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mudd is not a safety school by any means but it has long been a "second choice" for kids who really want CalTech or MIT.

Georgia Tech is the backup for CalTech and MIT. Mudd only if CS or CE

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone who is not a college administrator or admissions officer care about yield rate?

Why do we care about anything? The data shows how "desirable" a school is. Use it for what it shows, or don't use it. It is just data.

It’s more a reflection of ED and how much a school cares about yield protection.

But ED itself is an indication of a desire to attend. If a kid/family is willing to exclude all other possibilities for a specific institution, there is no higher indication of interest. Likewise, if a school can attract such avid applicants and maintain their academic standards, the school must be doing something right.

But families feel they have to game the system. If they like School A best, but have better odds at School B, especially if they apply early decision, they might aim for School B. Does that mean they prefer School B?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone who is not a college administrator or admissions officer care about yield rate?

Why do we care about anything? The data shows how "desirable" a school is. Use it for what it shows, or don't use it. It is just data.

It’s more a reflection of ED and how much a school cares about yield protection.

But ED itself is an indication of a desire to attend. If a kid/family is willing to exclude all other possibilities for a specific institution, there is no higher indication of interest. Likewise, if a school can attract such avid applicants and maintain their academic standards, the school must be doing something right.

But families feel they have to game the system. If they like School A best, but have better odds at School B, especially if they apply early decision, they might aim for School B. Does that mean they prefer School B?

Life isn’t perfect. The reality is that school A is probably a wild reach, and therefore a prestige grab, not the perfect fit. School B is more likely to be an attainable reach and a better fit, regardless of the pining for A. Whatever the case, if B is second on a kid’s list of 4000 schools, it’s still essentially number one. If it isn’t, don’t ED, and just apply EA or RD.