Help! 2 year old dog keeps going potty in crate when at work

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:adult dogs can't go that long. Adult dogs typically need a minimum of three to five bathroom breaks every six to eight hours per day. However, puppies, younger dogs, and senior dogs often require more opportunities to relieve themselves.\

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You are 10,000% wrong, and there are at least 10,000 veterinarians who would happily tell you so if they saw your dumb post.

Another dog ‘expert’ who doesn’t know the first thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymou[b wrote:s]I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

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THIS AND FAR TOO LONG (hours!)

Wut? There is nothing wrong with crating adult dog for 5-6 hours

+1

We still crate our 3yo large breed dog sometimes (not even daily, as I WFH). She still gets into things sometimes if left alone, and the safest place for her is her crate. Usually it is just for a few hours but on rare occasion (maybe a few times/yr) it will be 6-8 hours and she does totally fine. Sometimes we just lock her in our bedroom (nothing to get into) where her crate is- have been slowly transitioning to that. We usually come home and find her in her crate anyway! She often chooses to sleep in there with the door open overnight even though she can sleep in bed with us. . She likes her crate.

The pooping in crate issue I honestly have no idea….but I’d be tempted to experiment with feeding times, and experiment with a different style of crate or even try putting her in a safe dogproofed room (non carpeted) if you have one and see what she does. Maybe it will provide some clues. If not I’d ask a trainer. Sorry that you are dealing with this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:adult dogs can't go that long. Adult dogs typically need a minimum of three to five bathroom breaks every six to eight hours per day. However, puppies, younger dogs, and senior dogs often require more opportunities to relieve themselves.\

r

You are 10,000% wrong, and there are at least 10,000 veterinarians who would happily tell you so if they saw your dumb post.

Another dog ‘expert’ who doesn’t know the first thing.

+1

Our (large breed healthy adult) dog goes 10+ hours between trips outside at times. By her choice, certainly not ours. She hates when it rains or storms and refuses to go out, and others times is just lazy for whatever reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I have a 2-year-old whippet mix I adopted when she was just about 3 months old. I adopted another pup a few months earlier that is 6 months older for reference (So 2.5 years, adopted when she was 3 months). (pandemic puppies - never again lol)

My whippet is socially a great dog - listens to commands, all around pretty good for a 2-year-old. EXCEPT FOR THE POOP. I have to crate her when I'm gone for work (4-6 hours a day on average, so not long) because she sometimes tends to get into things and eat/destroy them if someone isn't paying attention. Unfortunately, she also tends to potty in her crate, no matter how short or long the stay in the crate is. Some days are better than others; but she must have a poop reserve because even if she just went out before going in the crate, I'll find another special package when I come home.

I think it could be separation anxiety, as my other pup has never done it once. I worked with a trainer when they both were just under a year so I was hoping I set them up for success....

Does anyone have any tips or tricks? She exhibits no other anxious symptoms in or out of the crate, so it's a mystery. She will even lie in her crate when it's clean and open. I just have never experienced this before and am not sure how to help stop this behavior. Thanks!

Do you have a dog walker? 4-6 hours in the crate is a long time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymou[b wrote:s]I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

[/b]

THIS AND FAR TOO LONG (hours!)

of course it is pooping in its crate at six hours. what are you thinking?

Did you even read OPs other response where they said the dog does this/poops even if in there for a very brief period where they just run to the store?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymou[b wrote:s]I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

[/b]

THIS AND FAR TOO LONG (hours!)

Wut? There is nothing wrong with crating adult dog for 5-6 hours

Is “what” too hard for you to type?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh my goodness. Im not stopping crating. She will end up harming herself. I love her too much to let her have free roam. She will even eat the floor and the walls if she could. The first words out of the trainer’s mouth was that she was a “nut”. She really is. So sweet but so weird! I have no idea what goes on in her little brain. Lol

My other two dogs can handle themselves just fine. She can’t even for 15 minutes apparently. Thanks for the advice! I have some new things to try. I wish they could communicate with us. Save us all this agony, right?

Dogs do communicate and your dog is saying she needs a mid day walker!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I have a 2-year-old whippet mix I adopted when she was just about 3 months old. I adopted another pup a few months earlier that is 6 months older for reference (So 2.5 years, adopted when she was 3 months). (pandemic puppies - never again lol)

My whippet is socially a great dog - listens to commands, all around pretty good for a 2-year-old. EXCEPT FOR THE POOP. I have to crate her when I'm gone for work (4-6 hours a day on average, so not long) because she sometimes tends to get into things and eat/destroy them if someone isn't paying attention. Unfortunately, she also tends to potty in her crate, no matter how short or long the stay in the crate is. Some days are better than others; but she must have a poop reserve because even if she just went out before going in the crate, I'll find another special package when I come home.

I think it could be separation anxiety, as my other pup has never done it once. I worked with a trainer when they both were just under a year so I was hoping I set them up for success....

Does anyone have any tips or tricks? She exhibits no other anxious symptoms in or out of the crate, so it's a mystery. She will even lie in her crate when it's clean and open. I just have never experienced this before and am not sure how to help stop this behavior. Thanks!

THIS IS TOO LONG for a dog during the day! What are you thinking?

4-6 hours napping in a crate during the day is fine for an adult dog.

Um, no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh my goodness. Im not stopping crating. She will end up harming herself. I love her too much to let her have free roam. She will even eat the floor and the walls if she could. The first words out of the trainer’s mouth was that she was a “nut”. She really is. So sweet but so weird! I have no idea what goes on in her little brain. Lol

My other two dogs can handle themselves just fine. She can’t even for 15 minutes apparently. Thanks for the advice! I have some new things to try. I wish they could communicate with us. Save us all this agony, right?

Dogs do communicate and your dog is saying she needs a mid day walker!

But OP clearly stated that the dog does this/goes to the bathroom in the crate even when only left in there for a short period while she runs to the store. This is not a needs to go to the bathroom and has no other option issue.

[Anonymous]

okay...so I am a bit confused.

Are you trying to sell the crate or the technique or both as a miracle method to get one's dog to poop in a specified location and during a specific time period each day ?

Do you think that your method is eligible for patent protection ?

How much are you seeking ? Give me a call and lets talk.

[Anonymous]

Seriously OP ??? This is a problem ?

Seems more like a training success story than a problem.

Have you considered placing a puppy pee pad in the crate so that clean-up is easy ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:okay...so I am a bit confused.

Are you trying to sell the crate or the technique or both as a miracle method to get one's dog to poop in a specified location and during a specific time period each day ?

Do you think that your method is eligible for patent protection ?

How much are you seeking ? Give me a call and lets talk.

Nobody is trying to sell anything
Crating dogs is normal practice to keep destructive dogs safe when they cannot be watched, up to 6-8 hours is ok for an adult dog to go without bathroom breaks
If dog poops in the crate - first thing to check is the crate size, then work on other possibilities
As OP stated - whether or not to crate her dog is out of question, her dog is destructive, so not sure why you're confused

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:okay...so I am a bit confused.

Are you trying to sell the crate or the technique or both as a miracle method to get one's dog to poop in a specified location and during a specific time period each day ?

Do you think that your method is eligible for patent protection ?

How much are you seeking ? Give me a call and lets talk.

Nobody is trying to sell anything
Crating dogs is normal practice to keep destructive dogs safe when they cannot be watched, up to 6-8 hours is ok for an adult dog to go without bathroom breaks
If dog poops in the crate - first thing to check is the crate size, then work on other possibilities
As OP stated - whether or not to crate her dog is out of question, her dog is destructive, so not sure why you're confused

Then don’t have a destructive dog if you can’t take care of it.

So, you're solution for OP is to rehome, euthanize or quit working/leaving house instead of crating???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How big is the crate relative to her size? Sometimes when a crate is too large they feel like their crate can be divided between bed space and potty space in a way they wouldn't in tighter quarters. (Obviously the crate should be comfortable and they should be able to stand up and turn around but a Maltese in a crate that could fit a Bernese might do this.)

This was my concern, but she's very tall for her weight, so I did have to go up a size. It's bigger, but not huge (for example, it would be too small for a Bernese). She's about 40 lbs. She had a physical this summer and is in good health and is up to date on vaccines.

To those who think it's terrible to crate, believe me, if I could trust her I would keep her out. She gets into the weirdest things. The other night she raided my jewelry bowl on top of my dresser while I was sleeping. She will also take random things off shelves and chew them (all while we are sleeping). She has 3 million toys, bones and other things.
Both the vet and the trainer recommend crating. I want to keep her alive! I'm hoping this is just young behavior, but I want to nip it, as my other dogs are not like this (I have 3 - not all are crated!)

I called the trainer and have an appointment next week. I do agree she needs more exercise; off-leash is where she gets her energy out (dog park). I wish I could take her every day if one was closer to me. But she is walked daily; but even after a walk, or if she has to go into the crate even just a run to the store, she goes. Sometimes it's just #1, sometimes it's #2, sometimes it's both

Thanks though for helping me think this out!

It is cruel to crate her for that long, especially if her packmate isn’t crated. We block off areas for our dog. Surely you have one room/are pathat she can be safe in and be with the other dog? We bought a playpen like this and took it apart so that we could block a large archway from our foyer to our great room. We also blocked other entranceways with normal baby gates. Or just use the playpen as is (but get a bigger one).

https://www.chewy.com/pet-adobe-8-panel-folding-metal-dog/dp/341320?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=Pet%20Adobe&utm_campaign=20196576200&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA29auBhBxEiwAnKcSqmp5Ae59su7HoBiDGSLUB7GFSc1JxXUV9t_MSBES0SQwfg09na4YshoCx3gQAvD_BwE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymou[b wrote:s]I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

[/b]

THIS AND FAR TOO LONG (hours!)

Wut? There is nothing wrong with crating adult dog for 5-6 hours

+1

We still crate our 3yo large breed dog sometimes (not even daily, as I WFH). She still gets into things sometimes if left alone, and the safest place for her is her crate. Usually it is just for a few hours but on rare occasion (maybe a few times/yr) it will be 6-8 hours and she does totally fine. Sometimes we just lock her in our bedroom (nothing to get into) where her crate is- have been slowly transitioning to that. We usually come home and find her in her crate anyway! She often chooses to sleep in there with the door open overnight even though she can sleep in bed with us. . She likes her crate.

The pooping in crate issue I honestly have no idea….but I’d be tempted to experiment with feeding times, and experiment with a different style of crate or even try putting her in a safe dogproofed room (non carpeted) if you have one and see what she does. Maybe it will provide some clues. If not I’d ask a trainer. Sorry that you are dealing with this!

Your situation is not applicable. OP’s dog is crated every day. And her other dogs are free to wonder around the house at their leisure- of course this dog is pooping. It’s not a biological need, the dog is communicating how unhappy she is. No dog wants to poop in their crate (that’s why most don’t do it).