Help! 2 year old dog keeps going potty in crate when at work

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Anonymous wrote:How big is the crate relative to her size? Sometimes when a crate is too large they feel like their crate can be divided between bed space and potty space in a way they wouldn't in tighter quarters. (Obviously the crate should be comfortable and they should be able to stand up and turn around but a Maltese in a crate that could fit a Bernese might do this.)

This was my concern, but she's very tall for her weight, so I did have to go up a size. It's bigger, but not huge (for example, it would be too small for a Bernese). She's about 40 lbs. She had a physical this summer and is in good health and is up to date on vaccines.

To those who think it's terrible to crate, believe me, if I could trust her I would keep her out. She gets into the weirdest things. The other night she raided my jewelry bowl on top of my dresser while I was sleeping. She will also take random things off shelves and chew them (all while we are sleeping). She has 3 million toys, bones and other things.
Both the vet and the trainer recommend crating. I want to keep her alive! I'm hoping this is just young behavior, but I want to nip it, as my other dogs are not like this (I have 3 - not all are crated!)

I called the trainer and have an appointment next week. I do agree she needs more exercise; off-leash is where she gets her energy out (dog park). I wish I could take her every day if one was closer to me. But she is walked daily; but even after a walk, or if she has to go into the crate even just a run to the store, she goes. Sometimes it's just #1, sometimes it's #2, sometimes it's both

Thanks though for helping me think this out!

In this case crate size isn’t about height, it’s that she has the room to poop. Use a crate divider so that there is less space in there for her to poop.

I still have the divider but was worried she would injure herself b/c she's older and can pick at it. I'll try it though!

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What would happen if you gave her a corral instead and puppy pads? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BK6H4FPZ/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0BK6H4FPZ&ref_=sxts_sparkle_sbv&qid=1708466938&pd_rd_w=RtYTT&content-id=amzn1.sym.417820b0-80f2-4084-adb3-fb612550f30b%3Aamzn1.sym.417820b0-80f2-4084-adb3-fb612550f30b&pf_rd_p=417820b0-80f2-4084-adb3-fb612550f30b&pf_rd_r=AY70P103PDRW4GFXT6WH&pd_rd_wg=5g5Ys&pd_rd_r=c7c27b16-7949-4588-9607-cf842bcfaba3&pd_rd_plhdr=t

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Anonymou[b wrote:s]I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

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THIS AND FAR TOO LONG (hours!)

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

Dogs are den animals and there is nothing whatsoever wrong with them using a crate their entire lives. Please stop with the anti crate training BS - that kind of idiocy gets thousands of teenaged dogs dropped at the kill shelters for eating the remote or the sofa. CRATES ARE NOT CRUEL!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

Dogs are den animals and there is nothing whatsoever wrong with them using a crate their entire lives. Please stop with the anti crate training BS - that kind of idiocy gets thousands of teenaged dogs dropped at the kill shelters for eating the remote or the sofa. CRATES ARE NOT CRUEL!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

Dogs are den animals and there is nothing whatsoever wrong with them using a crate their entire lives. Please stop with the anti crate training BS - that kind of idiocy gets thousands of teenaged dogs dropped at the kill shelters for eating the remote or the sofa. CRATES ARE NOT CRUEL!!!!

Exactly - she's staying with me despite her destructive behavior and if I have to crate, I will crate to keep her alive and out of trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:What would happen if you gave her a corral instead and puppy pads? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BK6H4FPZ/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0BK6H4FPZ&ref_=sxts_sparkle_sbv&qid=1708466938&pd_rd_w=RtYTT&content-id=amzn1.sym.417820b0-80f2-4084-adb3-fb612550f30b%3Aamzn1.sym.417820b0-80f2-4084-adb3-fb612550f30b&pf_rd_p=417820b0-80f2-4084-adb3-fb612550f30b&pf_rd_r=AY70P103PDRW4GFXT6WH&pd_rd_wg=5g5Ys&pd_rd_r=c7c27b16-7949-4588-9607-cf842bcfaba3&pd_rd_plhdr=t

I had that as a puppy for her and she got out of it very quickly. I even looked at Reddit posts on how to build a proper cover, but she's a sneaky one! Thank you though!

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Anonymou[b wrote:s]I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

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THIS AND FAR TOO LONG (hours!)

Wut? There is nothing wrong with crating adult dog for 5-6 hours

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I would try divider. Just had a foster (~30lb) that wouldn't poop in 30 in crate, and did it all the time in 42in. Crate size matters

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I have a 2-year-old whippet mix I adopted when she was just about 3 months old. I adopted another pup a few months earlier that is 6 months older for reference (So 2.5 years, adopted when she was 3 months). (pandemic puppies - never again lol)

My whippet is socially a great dog - listens to commands, all around pretty good for a 2-year-old. EXCEPT FOR THE POOP. I have to crate her when I'm gone for work (4-6 hours a day on average, so not long) because she sometimes tends to get into things and eat/destroy them if someone isn't paying attention. Unfortunately, she also tends to potty in her crate, no matter how short or long the stay in the crate is. Some days are better than others; but she must have a poop reserve because even if she just went out before going in the crate, I'll find another special package when I come home.

I think it could be separation anxiety, as my other pup has never done it once. I worked with a trainer when they both were just under a year so I was hoping I set them up for success....

Does anyone have any tips or tricks? She exhibits no other anxious symptoms in or out of the crate, so it's a mystery. She will even lie in her crate when it's clean and open. I just have never experienced this before and am not sure how to help stop this behavior. Thanks!

THIS IS TOO LONG for a dog during the day! What are you thinking?

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I have a 2-year-old whippet mix I adopted when she was just about 3 months old. I adopted another pup a few months earlier that is 6 months older for reference (So 2.5 years, adopted when she was 3 months). (pandemic puppies - never again lol)

My whippet is socially a great dog - listens to commands, all around pretty good for a 2-year-old. EXCEPT FOR THE POOP. I have to crate her when I'm gone for work (4-6 hours a day on average, so not long) because she sometimes tends to get into things and eat/destroy them if someone isn't paying attention. Unfortunately, she also tends to potty in her crate, no matter how short or long the stay in the crate is. Some days are better than others; but she must have a poop reserve because even if she just went out before going in the crate, I'll find another special package when I come home.

I think it could be separation anxiety, as my other pup has never done it once. I worked with a trainer when they both were just under a year so I was hoping I set them up for success....

Does anyone have any tips or tricks? She exhibits no other anxious symptoms in or out of the crate, so it's a mystery. She will even lie in her crate when it's clean and open. I just have never experienced this before and am not sure how to help stop this behavior. Thanks!

THIS IS TOO LONG for a dog during the day! What are you thinking?

4-6 hours napping in a crate during the day is fine for an adult dog.

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Anonymou[b wrote:s]I cannot believe you are crating this dog still.

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THIS AND FAR TOO LONG (hours!)

of course it is pooping in its crate at six hours. what are you thinking?

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adult dogs can't go that long. Adult dogs typically need a minimum of three to five bathroom breaks every six to eight hours per day. However, puppies, younger dogs, and senior dogs often require more opportunities to relieve themselves.\

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Anonymous wrote:adult dogs can't go that long. Adult dogs typically need a minimum of three to five bathroom breaks every six to eight hours per day. However, puppies, younger dogs, and senior dogs often require more opportunities to relieve themselves.\

This is complete nonsense- adult dogs don’t typically need the many breaks.

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Oh my goodness. Im not stopping crating. She will end up harming herself. I love her too much to let her have free roam. She will even eat the floor and the walls if she could. The first words out of the trainer’s mouth was that she was a “nut”. She really is. So sweet but so weird! I have no idea what goes on in her little brain. Lol

My other two dogs can handle themselves just fine. She can’t even for 15 minutes apparently. Thanks for the advice! I have some new things to try. I wish they could communicate with us. Save us all this agony, right?