There is a crisis in U. S. schools.

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Anonymous wrote:We need parents to parent.


I’m a parent parenting 24/7, dealing with new behavior learned during class where a teacher not only allows badmouthing but also celebrates it. A teacher in a different class doesn’t have a clue about explaining content but holds a PhD in assigning nonsense homework.
We need teachers to teach, administrators to not look to other side when things get rough.
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Send your kids to religious schools. We left dc during Covid for an old fashioned Christian school. The school has high standards, positive vibes, and our child is thriving. No screens, muddy recess, excellent behavior. Super cheap, too (19k). No way would we trade this for some nightmare liberal pressure cooker like sidwell.
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I’m the religious school poster. My husband and I are not religious and the last place we expected to be was a traditional Christian school. I have come full circle. There is something very beautiful about believing in something benevolent that is bigger than your self. I am so grateful for the schools unwavering values at a time when public schools are latching onto whatever is the BS theory du jour.
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Anonymous wrote:Bring back discipline and reform schools.


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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of restorative justice for all but the most minor issues. If parents won’t teach children consequences, then schools must. Children should not be shown that action have zero consequences!

Also, make elementary school enjoyable again. It should not be all about prepping for the test and pushing forward!
Consequences are an aspect of white supremacy.

And right here is why we have huge disciplinary issues.

My kid will be done in 2 years with K-12. Thank God.
PP. I don't agree with this statement I made. I'm just repeating an insane talking point made by progressives that is the heart of the US education system's sharp decline.


We are getting to the point where parody (eg, that progressives think discipline is racist or whatever) is at all constructive. There are always some loons saying something silly and some of them are in public education, but most people, including progressives, are fine with discipline and consequences. So just advocate for that and move on. The tide is turning. No need to rile folks up even is there is a kernel of truth to what you’re saying.

And you’d be shocked at how sophisticated Russian and Chinese actors are at sowing dissension, so be careful in responding to social media. Remember, in 2020, the Russians were behind one of the biggest fake BLM online operations and white supremacist net campaigns at the same time!
PP. Progressives DO think discipline is racist. Our school system in Montgomery County, MD bemoans the (non-existent) "school to prison pipeline" to justify removing SROs from schools, implementing restorative justice (which simply doesn't work in most cases unless it's implemented perfectly which it never is), etc.


No - the powers that be in MCPS are idiots around the issue of school discipline does not = progressives think discipline is racist. Those folks aren’t progressives, they are cowards that don’t see these problems as solvable so they just don’t bother.


Wrong. They are progressives.


Well that settles it.
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Are there no workhouses?
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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of restorative justice for all but the most minor issues. If parents won’t teach children consequences, then schools must. Children should not be shown that action have zero consequences!

Also, make elementary school enjoyable again. It should not be all about prepping for the test and pushing forward!
Consequences are an aspect of white supremacy.

And right here is why we have huge disciplinary issues.

My kid will be done in 2 years with K-12. Thank God.
PP. I don't agree with this statement I made. I'm just repeating an insane talking point made by progressives that is the heart of the US education system's sharp decline.


We are getting to the point where parody (eg, that progressives think discipline is racist or whatever) is at all constructive. There are always some loons saying something silly and some of them are in public education, but most people, including progressives, are fine with discipline and consequences. So just advocate for that and move on. The tide is turning. No need to rile folks up even is there is a kernel of truth to what you’re saying.

And you’d be shocked at how sophisticated Russian and Chinese actors are at sowing dissension, so be careful in responding to social media. Remember, in 2020, the Russians were behind one of the biggest fake BLM online operations and white supremacist net campaigns at the same time!
PP. Progressives DO think discipline is racist. Our school system in Montgomery County, MD bemoans the (non-existent) "school to prison pipeline" to justify removing SROs from schools, implementing restorative justice (which simply doesn't work in most cases unless it's implemented perfectly which it never is), etc.


No - the powers that be in MCPS are idiots around the issue of school discipline does not = progressives think discipline is racist. Those folks aren’t progressives, they are cowards that don’t see these problems as solvable so they just don’t bother.
They can very well be both. But I don't think they're cowards. I think they're delusional. Progs tend to be white upper-middle class liberals who've never spent a minute with poor people or minorities so they really have no idea what life is like. They think policies that would work for them and their neighbors would work on the ghetto but that's simply folly. I know because I grew up welfare-poor.
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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of restorative justice for all but the most minor issues. If parents won’t teach children consequences, then schools must. Children should not be shown that action have zero consequences!

Also, make elementary school enjoyable again. It should not be all about prepping for the test and pushing forward!
Consequences are an aspect of white supremacy.

And right here is why we have huge disciplinary issues.

My kid will be done in 2 years with K-12. Thank God.
PP. I don't agree with this statement I made. I'm just repeating an insane talking point made by progressives that is the heart of the US education system's sharp decline.


We are getting to the point where parody (eg, that progressives think discipline is racist or whatever) is at all constructive. There are always some loons saying something silly and some of them are in public education, but most people, including progressives, are fine with discipline and consequences. So just advocate for that and move on. The tide is turning. No need to rile folks up even is there is a kernel of truth to what you’re saying.

And you’d be shocked at how sophisticated Russian and Chinese actors are at sowing dissension, so be careful in responding to social media. Remember, in 2020, the Russians were behind one of the biggest fake BLM online operations and white supremacist net campaigns at the same time!
PP. Progressives DO think discipline is racist. Our school system in Montgomery County, MD bemoans the (non-existent) "school to prison pipeline" to justify removing SROs from schools, implementing restorative justice (which simply doesn't work in most cases unless it's implemented perfectly which it never is), etc.


No - the powers that be in MCPS are idiots around the issue of school discipline does not = progressives think discipline is racist. Those folks aren’t progressives, they are cowards that don’t see these problems as solvable so they just don’t bother.


Wrong. They are progressives.


Well that settles it.
The people who put these policies in place say they are progressives. We should believe them.
Anonymous
Yep. Public school is trash. We homeschool with some neighbors and two are ES and HS teachers who quit. We pay them and I and another Dad are the assistants. My children have beautiful childhoods.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent


Yes. I really feel for you teachers. My kids had a wonderful elementary experience, but then the pandemic hit, and middle school and high school has been joyless chaos.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent


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I don't understand why this is, why parents do this. Is it due to smaller families, having children later, and lack of modeling/seeing parenting and interactions as a teen and adult before having kids?


You can thank the gentle parenting movement and Dr. Becky and Janet Lansbury
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Anonymous wrote:Yep. Public school is trash. We homeschool with some neighbors and two are ES and HS teachers who quit. We pay them and I and another Dad are the assistants. My children have beautiful childhoods.

I have a ton of criticism for public school but homeschooling isn't the best situation for many kids who need a good amount of social interaction with more than just one or two kids. One good thing about a large school is the diverse student body and social groups.
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I think it has more to do with social media and screen time than the schools. The pandemic made it socially acceptable to be staring at the screens for everything around the clock.

Ban phones and tablets for as long as possible parents.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it has more to do with social media and screen time than the schools. The pandemic made it socially acceptable to be staring at the screens for everything around the clock.

Ban phones and tablets for as long as possible parents.


How long did you ban them for?
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent


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I don't understand why this is, why parents do this. Is it due to smaller families, having children later, and lack of modeling/seeing parenting and interactions as a teen and adult before having kids?


That's an interesting phenomenon. That a smaller family treats kids more like equals. I hadn't thought of that before but you are right.
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