There is a crisis in U. S. schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent

+1

I don't understand why this is, why parents do this. Is it due to smaller families, having children later, and lack of modeling/seeing parenting and interactions as a teen and adult before having kids?

[Anonymous]

Teacher here. Many parents tell me that they don’t like when their kids are mad at them so they avoid doing anything to create this situation. Parents are in desperate need of parenting classes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of restorative justice for all but the most minor issues. If parents won’t teach children consequences, then schools must. Children should not be shown that action have zero consequences!

Also, make elementary school enjoyable again. It should not be all about prepping for the test and pushing forward!

Consequences are an aspect of white supremacy.

And right here is why we have huge disciplinary issues.

My kid will be done in 2 years with K-12. Thank God.

PP. I don't agree with this statement I made. I'm just repeating an insane talking point made by progressives that is the heart of the US education system's sharp decline.

We are getting to the point where parody (eg, that progressives think discipline is racist or whatever) is at all constructive. There are always some loons saying something silly and some of them are in public education, but most people, including progressives, are fine with discipline and consequences. So just advocate for that and move on. The tide is turning. No need to rile folks up even is there is a kernel of truth to what you’re saying.

And you’d be shocked at how sophisticated Russian and Chinese actors are at sowing dissension, so be careful in responding to social media. Remember, in 2020, the Russians were behind one of the biggest fake BLM online operations and white supremacist net campaigns at the same time!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent

Teachers’ hands are tied as well. They are required to push “technology” on even our youngest learners. When there are discipline issues, even violent outbursts, kids are gently pulled out to take a walk and grab a snack and take a break. Sorry, but munching on Cheezits while strolling around school and only talking about how you might have felt if you feel like talking about it… is not an effective consequence and does nothing to improvement behavior or learning over time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent

Teachers’ hands are tied as well. They are required to push “technology” on even our youngest learners. When there are discipline issues, even violent outbursts, kids are gently pulled out to take a walk and grab a snack and take a break. Sorry, but munching on Cheezits while strolling around school and only talking about how you might have felt if you feel like talking about it… is not an effective consequence and does nothing to improvement behavior or learning over time.

I think that the tide is slowly turning. Sad that things had to reach crisis levels — and that some kids are essentially being sacrificed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need parents to parent.

X10000. It is not the teacher's responsibility to raise, advise, and discipline your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent

+1

I don't understand why this is, why parents do this. Is it due to smaller families, having children later, and lack of modeling/seeing parenting and interactions as a teen and adult before having kids?

Parents are overcompensating for their own parents being checked out, alcoholics, workaholics, not caring or hearing or seeing or paying attention to them. I know some parents whose own mental illnesses are unchecked, so of course their DC's mental illnesses are exacerbated and completely unchecked. Head in the sand denial plays a tremendous factor.

Teachers are not getting paid to parent, they are getting paid to teach appropriate school subjects. Some parents really just want to pawn their kid off for the day, and check a box to say they had kids. Not all, but some.

[Anonymous]

I will add that as an elementary school teacher, I saw the breakdown in behavior at school take off with Trump’s election, the ballooning use of cell phones by kids, and all of the TV shows where people are publicly graded or shamed or told they don’t measure up. I started hearing elementary school kids say disgusting things to their peers and think that it was funny. It was alarming and sad to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will add that as an elementary school teacher, I saw the breakdown in behavior at school take off with Trump’s election, the ballooning use of cell phones by kids, and all of the TV shows where people are publicly graded or shamed or told they don’t measure up. I started hearing elementary school kids say disgusting things to their peers and think that it was funny. It was alarming and sad to see.

Of course you did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of restorative justice for all but the most minor issues. If parents won’t teach children consequences, then schools must. Children should not be shown that action have zero consequences!

Also, make elementary school enjoyable again. It should not be all about prepping for the test and pushing forward!

Consequences are an aspect of white supremacy.

And right here is why we have huge disciplinary issues.

My kid will be done in 2 years with K-12. Thank God.

PP. I don't agree with this statement I made. I'm just repeating an insane talking point made by progressives that is the heart of the US education system's sharp decline.

We are getting to the point where parody (eg, that progressives think discipline is racist or whatever) is at all constructive. There are always some loons saying something silly and some of them are in public education, but most people, including progressives, are fine with discipline and consequences. So just advocate for that and move on. The tide is turning. No need to rile folks up even is there is a kernel of truth to what you’re saying.

And you’d be shocked at how sophisticated Russian and Chinese actors are at sowing dissension, so be careful in responding to social media. Remember, in 2020, the Russians were behind one of the biggest fake BLM online operations and white supremacist net campaigns at the same time!

PP. Progressives DO think discipline is racist. Our school system in Montgomery County, MD bemoans the (non-existent) "school to prison pipeline" to justify removing SROs from schools, implementing restorative justice (which simply doesn't work in most cases unless it's implemented perfectly which it never is), etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s a huge crisis. Parents treat kids like equals now, which means they have no respect for teachers and rules. Teachers are burnt out so they aren’t bringing empathy to the classroom, which many kids truly need. The public school system demands a lot and there is little room for fun and creativity, which is why many kids are burnt out and act out. We are in a terrible terrible cycle right now.

-a teacher and a parent

Another teacher and parent and I agree 100%. Also, tying school funding to discipline rates had terrible ramifications and it's time to revisit that policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of restorative justice for all but the most minor issues. If parents won’t teach children consequences, then schools must. Children should not be shown that action have zero consequences!

Also, make elementary school enjoyable again. It should not be all about prepping for the test and pushing forward!

Consequences are an aspect of white supremacy.

And right here is why we have huge disciplinary issues.

My kid will be done in 2 years with K-12. Thank God.

PP. I don't agree with this statement I made. I'm just repeating an insane talking point made by progressives that is the heart of the US education system's sharp decline.

We are getting to the point where parody (eg, that progressives think discipline is racist or whatever) is at all constructive. There are always some loons saying something silly and some of them are in public education, but most people, including progressives, are fine with discipline and consequences. So just advocate for that and move on. The tide is turning. No need to rile folks up even is there is a kernel of truth to what you’re saying.

And you’d be shocked at how sophisticated Russian and Chinese actors are at sowing dissension, so be careful in responding to social media. Remember, in 2020, the Russians were behind one of the biggest fake BLM online operations and white supremacist net campaigns at the same time!

PP. Progressives DO think discipline is racist. Our school system in Montgomery County, MD bemoans the (non-existent) "school to prison pipeline" to justify removing SROs from schools, implementing restorative justice (which simply doesn't work in most cases unless it's implemented perfectly which it never is), etc.

No - the powers that be in MCPS are idiots around the issue of school discipline does not = progressives think discipline is racist. Those folks aren’t progressives, they are cowards that don’t see these problems as solvable so they just don’t bother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need zero tolerance now.

Sorry, that is NOT an equitable approach. Not happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of restorative justice for all but the most minor issues. If parents won’t teach children consequences, then schools must. Children should not be shown that action have zero consequences!

Also, make elementary school enjoyable again. It should not be all about prepping for the test and pushing forward!

Consequences are an aspect of white supremacy.

And right here is why we have huge disciplinary issues.

My kid will be done in 2 years with K-12. Thank God.

PP. I don't agree with this statement I made. I'm just repeating an insane talking point made by progressives that is the heart of the US education system's sharp decline.

We are getting to the point where parody (eg, that progressives think discipline is racist or whatever) is at all constructive. There are always some loons saying something silly and some of them are in public education, but most people, including progressives, are fine with discipline and consequences. So just advocate for that and move on. The tide is turning. No need to rile folks up even is there is a kernel of truth to what you’re saying.

And you’d be shocked at how sophisticated Russian and Chinese actors are at sowing dissension, so be careful in responding to social media. Remember, in 2020, the Russians were behind one of the biggest fake BLM online operations and white supremacist net campaigns at the same time!

PP. Progressives DO think discipline is racist. Our school system in Montgomery County, MD bemoans the (non-existent) "school to prison pipeline" to justify removing SROs from schools, implementing restorative justice (which simply doesn't work in most cases unless it's implemented perfectly which it never is), etc.

No - the powers that be in MCPS are idiots around the issue of school discipline does not = progressives think discipline is racist. Those folks aren’t progressives, they are cowards that don’t see these problems as solvable so they just don’t bother.

Wrong. They are progressives.