CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

You should reach out to CYA and volunteer to be the All Star Coordinator for rec soccer. It will be a bit time consuming with all the age groups, selecting coaches, scheduling the tryouts when there isn't even enough field space for practice, etc, etc., but you have such good ideas, you really shouldn't deprive them of your talent.

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Lol, I'm explaining how we handled it. Other than that, though, you're totally right!

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Are you saying its not just "Boom, done"?

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Lol, I'm explaining how we handled it. Other than that, though, you're totally right!

How did you have extra field space for all those tryouts? We can't even get decent practice space for our SFL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Lol, I'm explaining how we handled it. Other than that, though, you're totally right!

How did you have extra field space for all those tryouts? We can't even get decent practice space for our SFL teams.

This was several years ago, but all stars happened after the season had mostly wrapped, so it was not hard to get one of the crappier fields later on a Sunday. Was it a little work? Of course. Was it as complicated as PP would imply? No.

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Lol, I'm explaining how we handled it. Other than that, though, you're totally right!

How did you have extra field space for all those tryouts? We can't even get decent practice space for our SFL teams.

This was several years ago, but all stars happened after the season had mostly wrapped, so it was not hard to get one of the crappier fields later on a Sunday. Was it a little work? Of course. Was it as complicated as PP would imply? No.

What? That's not how it works, at all. All Stars are selected a few weeks into the season. The league needs to order special shirts. Collect fees from the parents, beg people to coach, register the teams with the tournament organizers, and so forth. They practice a few times between the regular season and the all star tournament. That must be what you are remembering. Not a tryout.

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Lol, I'm explaining how we handled it. Other than that, though, you're totally right!

How did you have extra field space for all those tryouts? We can't even get decent practice space for our SFL teams.

This was several years ago, but all stars happened after the season had mostly wrapped, so it was not hard to get one of the crappier fields later on a Sunday. Was it a little work? Of course. Was it as complicated as PP would imply? No.

Sorry, no way did you have a tryout for all stars at the end of the rec season. That would be past the registration deadline for the all star tournametns.

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Lol, I'm explaining how we handled it. Other than that, though, you're totally right!

How did you have extra field space for all those tryouts? We can't even get decent practice space for our SFL teams.

This was several years ago, but all stars happened after the season had mostly wrapped, so it was not hard to get one of the crappier fields later on a Sunday. Was it a little work? Of course. Was it as complicated as PP would imply? No.

Sorry, no way did you have a tryout for all stars at the end of the rec season. That would be past the registration deadline for the all star tournametns.

That is exactly how it happened, towards the end of the season (because by that point, coaches had seen enough to have an idea which players they wanted on their teams). Multiple seasons, boys and girls. This was FPYC, though, so perhaps different?

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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.

OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?

There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.

You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?

Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)

LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.

Lol, I'm explaining how we handled it. Other than that, though, you're totally right!

How did you have extra field space for all those tryouts? We can't even get decent practice space for our SFL teams.

This was several years ago, but all stars happened after the season had mostly wrapped, so it was not hard to get one of the crappier fields later on a Sunday. Was it a little work? Of course. Was it as complicated as PP would imply? No.

Sorry, no way did you have a tryout for all stars at the end of the rec season. That would be past the registration deadline for the all star tournametns.

That is exactly how it happened, towards the end of the season (because by that point, coaches had seen enough to have an idea which players they wanted on their teams). Multiple seasons, boys and girls. This was FPYC, though, so perhaps different?

If it was spring only, then sure, because FPYC runs the tournament so you wouldn't have to follow the same deadlines as everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't feel bad. CYA all star teams are being forced to do the tournament run by Valor again this spring and it suuuuuuuucked. Several families were livid last year that they gave up their weekend for it, they thought they were paying for the usual tournament not this weird money grab thing. It was lame. But Valor got to make money off the CYA rec kids.

Was this the all star tournament where a team from Peru showed up and the tournament head claimed they were a rec team? Or maybe it was Argentina.

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My family and our two kids loved the Valor tournament. We stayed at one place all day for both of their games which was nice. Fields were good, not the crappy middle school spaces they shove teams at FPYC. Toilets were clean (!) all weekend. The staff was friendly too. I hope we do that one again this spring. #YMMV.

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Clearly this hit a nerve with some "volunteer" coaches. There are many good coaches (no doubt), but do not deny that some jump on the head coach position to give their kid an unfair advantage. We definitely see it on the girls side (someone from the boys teams can chime in). I understand this is only a rec tournament of lower level players, but CYA consistently loses them to other rec programs. So maybe (just maybe) CYA is doing all-star selections in a way that does not benefit the league but just stokes the egos of coaches who's kids can't play on a level playing field. Just saying...

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Anonymous wrote:My family and our two kids loved the Valor tournament. We stayed at one place all day for both of their games which was nice. Fields were good, not the crappy middle school spaces they shove teams at FPYC. Toilets were clean (!) all weekend. The staff was friendly too. I hope we do that one again this spring. #YMMV.

Oh, you have really young kids. They were all on that same field out by the battlefield because they had so few teams sign up that they could just use that big park for multiple ages. My friends were out there with their little kids. FPYC and Herndon need to use a lot more fields because they have hundreds more teams participating.

My son's age group got combined with another age group and they still only had 4 teams total in the whole tournament (two from SYA and two from CYA). They play each other in SFL so it was nothing like a tournament. It was pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly this hit a nerve with some "volunteer" coaches. There are many good coaches (no doubt), but do not deny that some jump on the head coach position to give their kid an unfair advantage. We definitely see it on the girls side (someone from the boys teams can chime in). I understand this is only a rec tournament of lower level players, but CYA consistently loses them to other rec programs. So maybe (just maybe) CYA is doing all-star selections in a way that does not benefit the league but just stokes the egos of coaches who's kids can't play on a level playing field. Just saying...

No one is volunteering to coach your 7 year old and spend all that time practicing and running games and dealing with the league and parents in order to sneak their kid onto a completely meaningless all star team. If someone volunteers to also coach all stars, of course their kid is on the team automatically. Leagues are begging and begging for coaches.

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There was an all star tournament and the whole entire (combined?) age group was just four teams from SYA and CYA??

Did they charge money for this tournament? How disappointing for the kids. That's basically just scrimmaging.