Georgetown Application Solicitation Email

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, I went to Georgetown back in the mid 90s and I still live in the area. I attended for free because one of my parents was faculty but I didn't enjoy it. I appreciated graduating with a respectable degree and doing so gratis, but it is not what I would have picked at all. My DS is a senior this year and we did the tour last fall mostly out of it being close by and convenient. It isn't for him either and doubtful he'd get in anyway (1300/3.9, white, athlete), but yesterday they sent us an email basically begging us to apply and iterated several times that the class of 2028 still has several spots open.

So my question is- have they slipped so much that they need to beg kids to apply? Is this some legacy email deal? Is their AO so sloppy that they send this out to any prospect that have an email for?

He's not going to apply, but I can see this being very misleading for the kids that are interested in the school.

WTF--yet they are rejecting 4.0uw with 1560 SAT athlete (sorry, deferring) and begging yours to apply?

I'd like to see the wording of the email to decipher if this was really 'begging'. My child has received a bunch of emails to apply this week from many schools and I'd call it 'soliciting', not 'begging'.

As would I. My son applied RD, but submitted his application in November, so has not received a "reminder" email.

Some stats for you:

For the class of 2027, Georgetown received 8,196 early applications and accepted 964 (11.76%).
For the class of 2028, they received 8,600 early apps and accepted 860 (10%).

https://toptieradmissions.com/resources/ivy-league-college-early-admissions-statistics-for-the-class-of-2028/

[Anonymous]

What is the application fee for gu?

[Anonymous]

OP, don't flatter yourself. It's called marketing. In this century, schools that DON'T flood you are few & far between.

Everyone else, GU has operated admissions the same way forever. It's not better or worse, but IMHO it's more fair than most T50 private schools.

GU does NOT favor EA partly because they don't play ED rat race and they try (emphasis on try) to be as equitable as possible in keeping with Jesuit values of accessibility and inclusion. Cura personalis predates DEI btw.

Like MIT, the application is very straightforward and less effort than a lot of schools that use Common App but add extra essays or random "optional" questions.

Like MIT, GU thinks required testing promotes equity given vast differences in access to rigorous college prep education and grade inflation/GPA variances.

GU does not superscore like MIT. They see all of them. So folks who can afford to take it multiple times with tutors can't cherry pick as much.

The tradeoff for no Common App and required testing is offset by alumni interviews for all. It helped me back in the day and I'm happy to do it now.

GU will keep doing it's thing to stay at double digit acceptance rate drawn mainly from RD pool.

So yes, there's still time! 😉

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the application fee for gu?

70 or 75

[Anonymous]

I'm actually impressed by what GU is doing. My kid is applying and complains that they don't take the common app. But it seems to me GU is trying (to the extent possible) to stay out of the madness of the yield/admissions rate race to the bottom--ensuring that only interested applicants apply, using test scores so that there's a decent way to gauge between students coming from different schools, etc. Unlike some schools that are manipulating their numbers all over the place to look more competitive than they are, I think GU is playing it straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, don't flatter yourself. It's called marketing. In this century, schools that DON'T flood you are few & far between.

Everyone else, GU has operated admissions the same way forever. It's not better or worse, but IMHO it's more fair than most T50 private schools.

GU does NOT favor EA partly because they don't play ED rat race and they try (emphasis on try) to be as equitable as possible in keeping with Jesuit values of accessibility and inclusion. Cura personalis predates DEI btw.

Like MIT, the application is very straightforward and less effort than a lot of schools that use Common App but add extra essays or random "optional" questions.

Like MIT, GU thinks required testing promotes equity given vast differences in access to rigorous college prep education and grade inflation/GPA variances.

GU does not superscore like MIT. They see all of them. So folks who can afford to take it multiple times with tutors can't cherry pick as much.

The tradeoff for no Common App and required testing is offset by alumni interviews for all. It helped me back in the day and I'm happy to do it now.

GU will keep doing it's thing to stay at double digit acceptance rate drawn mainly from RD pool.

So yes, there's still time! 😉

Really? A lot of very top applicants were denied in the early rounds--perfect scores, perfect GPAs and great ECs, etc. So they accepted less in the early round and still are taking primarily from RD? Seems it was a waste to EA there when they appear to not give it any preference. Btw, their EA doesn't require anyone to attend so its not like ED, it doesn't hurt DEI.

[Anonymous]

I would think 'EA' would demonstrate first choice since its restrictive (can't apply to any other privates/Ivies). So they value the kids that didn't see them as first choice and after getting rejected from Ivies and Duke now will be submitting in RD-- over those kids with similar stats that applied EA? Yeah--seems really fair

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would think 'EA' would demonstrate first choice since its restrictive (can't apply to any other privates/Ivies). So they value the kids that didn't see them as first choice and after getting rejected from Ivies and Duke now will be submitting in RD-- over those kids with similar stats that applied EA? Yeah--seems really fair

What makes you think they have similar stats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would think 'EA' would demonstrate first choice since its restrictive (can't apply to any other privates/Ivies). So they value the kids that didn't see them as first choice and after getting rejected from Ivies and Duke now will be submitting in RD-- over those kids with similar stats that applied EA? Yeah--seems really fair

What makes you think they have similar stats?

Correct. They could have lesser stats.

[Anonymous]

I'm convinced kids get more screwed over in the early rounds than regular decision at some of the selective schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, don't flatter yourself. It's called marketing. In this century, schools that DON'T flood you are few & far between.

Everyone else, GU has operated admissions the same way forever. It's not better or worse, but IMHO it's more fair than most T50 private schools.

GU does NOT favor EA partly because they don't play ED rat race and they try (emphasis on try) to be as equitable as possible in keeping with Jesuit values of accessibility and inclusion. Cura personalis predates DEI btw.

Like MIT, the application is very straightforward and less effort than a lot of schools that use Common App but add extra essays or random "optional" questions.

Like MIT, GU thinks required testing promotes equity given vast differences in access to rigorous college prep education and grade inflation/GPA variances.

GU does not superscore like MIT. They see all of them. So folks who can afford to take it multiple times with tutors can't cherry pick as much.

The tradeoff for no Common App and required testing is offset by alumni interviews for all. It helped me back in the day and I'm happy to do it now.

GU will keep doing it's thing to stay at double digit acceptance rate drawn mainly from RD pool.

So yes, there's still time! 😉

Really? A lot of very top applicants were denied in the early rounds--perfect scores, perfect GPAs and great ECs, etc. So they accepted less in the early round and still are taking primarily from RD? Seems it was a waste to EA there when they appear to not give it any preference. Btw, their EA doesn't require anyone to attend so its not like ED, it doesn't hurt DEI.

You know this how?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would think 'EA' would demonstrate first choice since its restrictive (can't apply to any other privates/Ivies). So they value the kids that didn't see them as first choice and after getting rejected from Ivies and Duke now will be submitting in RD-- over those kids with similar stats that applied EA? Yeah--seems really fair

They want the best students. It's not about being "fair" to the students who love them the most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, don't flatter yourself. It's called marketing. In this century, schools that DON'T flood you are few & far between.

Everyone else, GU has operated admissions the same way forever. It's not better or worse, but IMHO it's more fair than most T50 private schools.

GU does NOT favor EA partly because they don't play ED rat race and they try (emphasis on try) to be as equitable as possible in keeping with Jesuit values of accessibility and inclusion. Cura personalis predates DEI btw.

Like MIT, the application is very straightforward and less effort than a lot of schools that use Common App but add extra essays or random "optional" questions.

Like MIT, GU thinks required testing promotes equity given vast differences in access to rigorous college prep education and grade inflation/GPA variances.

GU does not superscore like MIT. They see all of them. So folks who can afford to take it multiple times with tutors can't cherry pick as much.

The tradeoff for no Common App and required testing is offset by alumni interviews for all. It helped me back in the day and I'm happy to do it now.

GU will keep doing it's thing to stay at double digit acceptance rate drawn mainly from RD pool.

So yes, there's still time! 😉

Really? A lot of very top applicants were denied in the early rounds--perfect scores, perfect GPAs and great ECs, etc. So they accepted less in the early round and still are taking primarily from RD? Seems it was a waste to EA there when they appear to not give it any preference. Btw, their EA doesn't require anyone to attend so its not like ED, it doesn't hurt DEI.

You know this how?

+1 and besides, Georgetown doesn't deny anyone in the early round.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would think 'EA' would demonstrate first choice since its restrictive (can't apply to any other privates/Ivies). So they value the kids that didn't see them as first choice and after getting rejected from Ivies and Duke now will be submitting in RD-- over those kids with similar stats that applied EA? Yeah--seems really fair

It's restrictive only to 'binding' ones.
I think it's fair. You can't pick GU if you are also accepted at the other institution.

[Anonymous]

Once the very old school director of admissions moves on GU will become less of a who you know school to a what you know school. They take legacy kids who could not otherwise get in leaving the general population to very high standards.