What are “Lived Experiences” vs “Exeriences”

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A “lived experience” is how you’ve moved around in the world. For example, if you’re a white, straight, middle class male, your “lived experience” is likely one where you’ve enjoyed a multitude of privileges and very few road blocks such as discrimination. You’ve likely never been profiled in a store or stopped by the police simply because you’re walking down the street. The images and role models of success that have been in the media since you were born have mostly looked like you.

An “experience” is just that. It’s a one-time event. An example might be that you were mugged on the way home and it caused you to think differently about your life in a profound way. Or maybe you had the “experience” of volunteering in a homeless shelter and learned things about yourself.

No one is trying to “get around” the SCOTUS decision. If you’ve read it, you’d know that Roberts laid the groundwork for this approach. Colleges want a student body filled with diverse experiences, and there’s nothing illegal about soliciting information about its applicants as they build their next incoming class.


So, what if you were white and had a pretty crummy life and not one of privilege?


Write about it. How did you overcome your challenges?


Not everyone can. That's the point. Not everyone takes vacations, has privileged internships, jobs, etc. Ironically everything you list is those of privilege. If someone mugged me they'd be pissed at what they got.


No one wants to hear about your vacations or internships. That has nothing to do with overcoming challenges or lived experience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OPs ignorance is showing.


+1 FFS. Tired of this being asked ad nauseum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Lived experience” = made up BS that cannot be verified and proven or disproven.

Experience = things that actually happened, where you were or what you did, can be proven or disproven.


In my experience, that's not true.


You mean “in my lived experience” lmao.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My immediate response is that the schools want to hear from the student. They have read so many essays that are written by parents and massaged by the many who proofread.
The take away is let your kid express who they are. Admissions people are not stupid and they can spot your little fraud.


Well it wouldn’t be shown writing about “a lived experience”. I got so sick of seeing that phrase on every gdamn application.
Anonymous
Write about "lived experience" to show how you came to understand or believe something through real life. Any other feeling or belief came through a book or a video or newspaper, etc. Not to discount beliefs developed through other people's stories - but the point here is to write about your own life story.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A “lived experience” is how you’ve moved around in the world. For example, if you’re a white, straight, middle class male, your “lived experience” is likely one where you’ve enjoyed a multitude of privileges and very few road blocks such as discrimination. You’ve likely never been profiled in a store or stopped by the police simply because you’re walking down the street. The images and role models of success that have been in the media since you were born have mostly looked like you.

An “experience” is just that. It’s a one-time event. An example might be that you were mugged on the way home and it caused you to think differently about your life in a profound way. Or maybe you had the “experience” of volunteering in a homeless shelter and learned things about yourself.

No one is trying to “get around” the SCOTUS decision. If you’ve read it, you’d know that Roberts laid the groundwork for this approach. Colleges want a student body filled with diverse experiences, and there’s nothing illegal about soliciting information about its applicants as they build their next incoming class.


So, what if you were white and had a pretty crummy life and not one of privilege?


Write about it. How did you overcome your challenges?


Not everyone can. That's the point. Not everyone takes vacations, has privileged internships, jobs, etc. Ironically everything you list is those of privilege. If someone mugged me they'd be pissed at what they got.


No one wants to hear about your vacations or internships. That has nothing to do with overcoming challenges or lived experience.


The problem with that is some things are private
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A “lived experience” is how you’ve moved around in the world. For example, if you’re a white, straight, middle class male, your “lived experience” is likely one where you’ve enjoyed a multitude of privileges and very few road blocks such as discrimination. You’ve likely never been profiled in a store or stopped by the police simply because you’re walking down the street. The images and role models of success that have been in the media since you were born have mostly looked like you.

An “experience” is just that. It’s a one-time event. An example might be that you were mugged on the way home and it caused you to think differently about your life in a profound way. Or maybe you had the “experience” of volunteering in a homeless shelter and learned things about yourself.

No one is trying to “get around” the SCOTUS decision. If you’ve read it, you’d know that Roberts laid the groundwork for this approach. Colleges want a student body filled with diverse experiences, and there’s nothing illegal about soliciting information about its applicants as they build their next incoming class.


So, what if you were white and had a pretty crummy life and not one of privilege?


Write about it. How did you overcome your challenges?


Not everyone can. That's the point. Not everyone takes vacations, has privileged internships, jobs, etc. Ironically everything you list is those of privilege. If someone mugged me they'd be pissed at what they got.


No one wants to hear about your vacations or internships. That has nothing to do with overcoming challenges or lived experience.


The problem with that is some things are private


Of course! Fortunately, the options are wide open. There's nothing prescribed and nothing proscribed. Really, the only thing they're asking is that however you answer, you show some minimum degree of introspection.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Lived experience” = made up BS that cannot be verified and proven or disproven.

Experience = things that actually happened, where you were or what you did, can be proven or disproven.


In my experience, that's not true.


+1

Opposite, actually
Anonymous
isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.


No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.
Anonymous
For applicants with unarguably privileged backgrounds, this essay is a minefield. Maybe there was someone in your life who had an outsized influence that you can focus on. But it seems like a no-win proposition for children of privilege.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.


No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.


Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.


No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.


Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.


An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.
Anonymous
If you lived through a firefight in Fallujah then write about that. If you lived through a parent's combat induced PTSD write about that. If you built a family business with your parents and siblings then write about that. If you lost your share of the business through probate then write about that. Just write abouts what you know through experience and not through stories.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.


No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.


Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.


An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.


Here’s another one:
An experience is volunteering in a homeless shelter and helping clients deal with addiction. A lived experience is growing up with an alcoholic parent and the impact that has on a child.

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