absurdity of management consultants

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been a 20’s management consultant!

If you’re being forced to take any sort of soft skills or leadership training, the conclusion you should draw is that you suck so hard
that your bosses tried this training because it’s cheaper and easier than firing you.

Nobody wakes up and decides it’s time for leadership training out of the clear blue sky.

There’s a small chance it’s not you and you’re there as cover because they can’t send just one or a few people.

But based on your post, it’s probably you.

This. Out of touch boomers thinking time Trump's youth's more advance skills and education.

Bless your heart. Someday you’ll grow up and be embarrassed at your current self. You’ll also be embarrassed about bragging about your education in posts with so many type-so as to be borderline unintelligible.

People with actual industry knowledge realize that a bunch of 20 somethings sitting around debating a case study about KFC in Japan (something we spent a LOT of time on in the top rated MBA program that lead to my job consulting at E&Y) doesn’t teach them anything about administering state Workers’ Comp programs (the first project I was supposed to exert my “more advance [sic] skills and education” to improve. Of course, like all newly minted consultants, I was bad at everything except PowerPoint, so I asked the very underpaid staff what should be changed, and, being the people with actual knowledge, they told me. I put their advice into my PowerPoint template and got a gold star from my bosses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for making this post, op. I am in a new position (fed), and the level of bs I see at this new level is appalling. So many people in jobs with no actual function, meetings that could be emails (or instant messages), unnecessary "action committees," naming committees, etc. I don't know if I should escape the charade or silently ride it out until retirement.

Half of federal positions could be deleted, and there would be no significant function loss. I know the thread is about management consultants, but it applies to the feds, too, because the overarching theme is frustration with BS.

good idea they could get Deloitte to decide which half

Nah, Fed govt goes to McK for this stuff, not Deloitte.

[Anonymous]

I always thought it was laughable, but it’s still going strong decades later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

+1
I'm convinced the higher ups who think if you slap a big consultant label to an end product, then it has more weight.

But, here's the thing, we have in house knowledge and capability to do it. Their final product tells us what we, the underlings, have already known. But, I guess it's more meaningful if it comes from "industry experts".

Agreed. It gives the appearance of doing a deep dive to resolve a problem. Appearance is the operative word. Add a hefty bill to it, and it definitely has the intended impact with no significant results.

This is spot on.

[Anonymous]

Mgmt consultants are nothing more than a way to circumvent antitrust laws. If I can’t sit in a smoke filled room with my competitors and agree on prices and divy up markets, we can at least all hire McKinsey to transmit that information among ourselves for us!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

Lol. If you were actually talented and valuable you would have been promoted out of the daily grind role. You’re in these classes because you’re not good at your job.

Says one more smug DCUMer who is so much more talented than all the proletarians.

Thank you I am.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

Lol. If you were actually talented and valuable you would have been promoted out of the daily grind role. You’re in these classes because you’re not good at your job.

Says one more smug DCUMer who is so much more talented than all the proletarians.

Thank you I am.

Yeah, I'd love to see your subject matter expertise. Your 2 years at MBB leads to corporate strategy role at best.

[Anonymous]

Parasites is a good term for them. Can’t wait till AI takes all their jobs. It will be worth it even if mine is gone too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

Lol. If you were actually talented and valuable you would have been promoted out of the daily grind role. You’re in these classes because you’re not good at your job.

Says one more smug DCUMer who is so much more talented than all the proletarians.

Thank you I am.

Yeah, I'd love to see your subject matter expertise. Your 2 years at MBB leads to corporate strategy role at best.

Stay mad, worker bee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

Lol. If you were actually talented and valuable you would have been promoted out of the daily grind role. You’re in these classes because you’re not good at your job.

Says one more smug DCUMer who is so much more talented than all the proletarians.

Thank you I am.

Yeah, I'd love to see your subject matter expertise. Your 2 years at MBB leads to corporate strategy role at best.

Stay mad, worker bee.

Contribute something of value. Leave management consulting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:John Oliver explains the management consulting industry pretty well here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOUojVd6xQ&pp=ygUITWNraW5zZXk%3D

I was going to suggest this. Oliver skewers McKinsey.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

Lol. If you were actually talented and valuable you would have been promoted out of the daily grind role. You’re in these classes because you’re not good at your job.

No, it means that you are not a mediocre tall white man who can make small talk about the bosses favourite sport. Everyone else disproportionately gets the boring grunt work that’s actually important for the business. For example cutting a ward managers bonus one year and using the money to hire an assistant nurse, INCREASED productivity where I worked. The front line is where the most value comes from, not fat cat underworked and overpaid managers.

Keep telling yourself this. 😂😂

“Lol” and laughing emojis? Are you 12 or 80?

DP

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

Lol. If you were actually talented and valuable you would have been promoted out of the daily grind role. You’re in these classes because you’re not good at your job.

Says one more smug DCUMer who is so much more talented than all the proletarians.

Thank you I am.

Yeah, I'd love to see your subject matter expertise. Your 2 years at MBB leads to corporate strategy role at best.

Stay mad, worker bee.

Everyone at MBB is either a worker bee or a salesman. Your "product" is an overpriced slide deck. At least I have real expertise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been a 20’s management consultant!

If you’re being forced to take any sort of soft skills or leadership training, the conclusion you should draw is that you suck so hard
that your bosses tried this training because it’s cheaper and easier than firing you.

Nobody wakes up and decides it’s time for leadership training out of the clear blue sky.

There’s a small chance it’s not you and you’re there as cover because they can’t send just one or a few people.

But based on your post, it’s probably you.

This. Out of touch boomers thinking time Trump's youth's more advance skills and education.

Bless your heart. Someday you’ll grow up and be embarrassed at your current self. You’ll also be embarrassed about bragging about your education in posts with so many type-so as to be borderline unintelligible.

People with actual industry knowledge realize that a bunch of 20 somethings sitting around debating a case study about KFC in Japan (something we spent a LOT of time on in the top rated MBA program that lead to my job consulting at E&Y) doesn’t teach them anything about administering state Workers’ Comp programs (the first project I was supposed to exert my “more advance [sic] skills and education” to improve. Of course, like all newly minted consultants, I was bad at everything except PowerPoint, so I asked the very underpaid staff what should be changed, and, being the people with actual knowledge, they told me. I put their advice into my PowerPoint template and got a gold star from my bosses.

Typical boomer can't do power points and talks about type so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow you guys keep paying us. Been in the industry 30 years.

It's almost as if maybe these consulting firms might have something new or relevant to teach the blowhards that think they know it all.

No, it's that bad managers try to subcontract their jobs and are susceptible to marketing and bribes. The working talent are collateral damage.

Lol. If you were actually talented and valuable you would have been promoted out of the daily grind role. You’re in these classes because you’re not good at your job.

Says one more smug DCUMer who is so much more talented than all the proletarians.

Thank you I am.

Yeah, I'd love to see your subject matter expertise. Your 2 years at MBB leads to corporate strategy role at best.

Stay mad, worker bee.

Are you making fun of people for...working? Gross.