El Salvador Model as a solution to crime

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The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

What BS.

Well, that was a well-thought, reasoned response.

Short and accurate.
The drain on our social service resources and public schools alone far outweigh any of these so called benefits.

Yet you will happily continue to hire all these “illegals” to do your landscaping and clean your house and paint your house and the list goes on.

No I won't.
I'm not cheap like you.

Sure…because there are so many native born Americans performing these jobs.

The only reason you won’t is actually because you are probably LMC and can’t afford to hire anyone.[/quote

I could buy and sell your entire family tree.]

Yeah, sure you could. Dude, I am sorry you are poor…guess that is why you are so angry. Always someone else’s fault.

$250+ yr income.
8M net worth.
22039 zip.
Middle class for DCUM it appears.

And the reason they come here is purely for economic reasons.
They are not "refugees".
I'm glad you unintentionally pointed that out.
They have anchor babies to exploit our social services.
Got it Dude?

So you live in a fairly crap part of NoVa…and it’s funny, I guess I could buy and sell you and your family tree. Way to brag.

I don’t care why they come, but they work hard and serve a purpose. You clearly don’t hire any of these services…name me one landscaper, contractor, cleaning, etc. that doesn’t rely on Latino workers…maybe they are legal (but I doubt it). It’s not even a cost issue…some of the leading Build/Design services that are also the most expensive primarily use Latino crews.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

What BS.

Well, that was a well-thought, reasoned response.

Short and accurate.
The drain on our social service resources and public schools alone far outweigh any of these so called benefits.

Yet you will happily continue to hire all these “illegals” to do your landscaping and clean your house and paint your house and the list goes on.

Nope. My H takes care of the yard. I do our cleaning. We do all our own maintenance. Unlike you perhaps, the idea of household work doesn’t send me to the fainting couch.

So you admit you don’t have the $$$s to pay for it.

I guess you will build your own addition to your house? Wait…that sounds like too much money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

What BS.

Well, that was a well-thought, reasoned response.

Short and accurate.
The drain on our social service resources and public schools alone far outweigh any of these so called benefits.

Yet you will happily continue to hire all these “illegals” to do your landscaping and clean your house and paint your house and the list goes on.

No I won't.
I'm not cheap like you.

Sure…because there are so many native born Americans performing these jobs.

The only reason you won’t is actually because you are probably LMC and can’t afford to hire anyone.

I am definitely lower middle class. Maybe even whatever class is lower than that?

What’s your point, exactly? That we can’t afford to hire “help”? Well duh, Captain Obvious. But even if we could, we still wouldn’t, because it’s illegal and wrong.

But it’s telling about you that you think the only difference between you and I is money. We couldn’t be any more different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

What BS.

Well, that was a well-thought, reasoned response.

Short and accurate.
The drain on our social service resources and public schools alone far outweigh any of these so called benefits.

Yet you will happily continue to hire all these “illegals” to do your landscaping and clean your house and paint your house and the list goes on.

Nope. My H takes care of the yard. I do our cleaning. We do all our own maintenance. Unlike you perhaps, the idea of household work doesn’t send me to the fainting couch.

So you admit you don’t have the $$$s to pay for it.

I guess you will build your own addition to your house? Wait…that sounds like too much money.

Correct. We don’t have the money, so we do it ourselves.

I’m not sure why you think that’s something we should be embarrassed about. I’m a teacher. My H is a county firefighter.

What do we have to be ashamed about in your eyes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

What BS.

Well, that was a well-thought, reasoned response.

Short and accurate.
The drain on our social service resources and public schools alone far outweigh any of these so called benefits.

Yet you will happily continue to hire all these “illegals” to do your landscaping and clean your house and paint your house and the list goes on.

No I won't.
I'm not cheap like you.

Sure…because there are so many native born Americans performing these jobs.

The only reason you won’t is actually because you are probably LMC and can’t afford to hire anyone.

I am definitely lower middle class. Maybe even whatever class is lower than that?

What’s your point, exactly? That we can’t afford to hire “help”? Well duh, Captain Obvious. But even if we could, we still wouldn’t, because it’s illegal and wrong.

But it’s telling about you that you think the only difference between you and I is money. We couldn’t be any more different.

I assume there are plenty of differences…but it seems like your decision not to hire these services is really a financial issue and not a moral one. FWIW, you are one of the few on DCUM highlighting your LMC status…didn’t think they existed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

What BS.

Well, that was a well-thought, reasoned response.

Short and accurate.
The drain on our social service resources and public schools alone far outweigh any of these so called benefits.

Yet you will happily continue to hire all these “illegals” to do your landscaping and clean your house and paint your house and the list goes on.

Nope. My H takes care of the yard. I do our cleaning. We do all our own maintenance. Unlike you perhaps, the idea of household work doesn’t send me to the fainting couch.

So you admit you don’t have the $$$s to pay for it.

I guess you will build your own addition to your house? Wait…that sounds like too much money.

Correct. We don’t have the money, so we do it ourselves.

I’m not sure why you think that’s something we should be embarrassed about. I’m a teacher. My H is a county firefighter.

What do we have to be ashamed about in your eyes?

You seem to be blaming immigrants for keeping all these services in business (why is that a bad thing?)…yet most of the owners are blue collar white people that you probably admire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If DC did this, the bleeding heart SJW crowd would have a fit, even if it resulted in a massive reduction in violence.

But I guess we’ll stick to paying $9m a year for “violence interruptors” and letting criminals off with a slap on the wrist and see how well that continues to work.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/181zryk/a_prison_in_el_salvador_a_country_once_known_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Yes, let's build the biggest prison in US history right inside the District. Then let's wipe our a55es with the First, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments, for starters, as El Salvador does and commit massive human rights abuses. That'll fly in the US! Great idea!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If DC did this, the bleeding heart SJW crowd would have a fit, even if it resulted in a massive reduction in violence.

But I guess we’ll stick to paying $9m a year for “violence interruptors” and letting criminals off with a slap on the wrist and see how well that continues to work.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/181zryk/a_prison_in_el_salvador_a_country_once_known_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Yes, let's build the biggest prison in US history right inside the District. Then let's wipe our a55es with the First, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments, for starters, as El Salvador does and commit massive human rights abuses. That'll fly in the US! Great idea!

What about our human rights not to live in a crime-infested sh!thole?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If DC did this, the bleeding heart SJW crowd would have a fit, even if it resulted in a massive reduction in violence.

But I guess we’ll stick to paying $9m a year for “violence interruptors” and letting criminals off with a slap on the wrist and see how well that continues to work.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/181zryk/a_prison_in_el_salvador_a_country_once_known_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Yes, let's build the biggest prison in US history right inside the District. Then let's wipe our a55es with the First, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments, for starters, as El Salvador does and commit massive human rights abuses. That'll fly in the US! Great idea!

What about our human rights not to live in a crime-infested sh!thole?

I really wonder if there will be a tipping point in the United States if crime keeps getting more and more out of control without any consequences for most criminals. I spoke with some friend that have family in El Salvador. Their family is thrilled with President Bukele. They used to be afraid to walk around at night and even during the day because they were afraid they would be robbed or killed. So many store owners were being extorted, girls were getting kidnapped and raped, carjackings, robberies, etc. Now everyone can walk anywhere in El Salvador and not worry about getting robbed, assaulted or killed. His approval rating is through the roof. The president of El Salvador is really popular in other Latin American countries and there is now a movement called Bukelismo that calls for more countries to be tough on crime for the good of the majority.

[Anonymous]

That pesky US Constitution, what a pain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

People said the said the same thing about serfs, helots, slaves, peasants, etc... None of those systems worked in the long run, mostly failing in spectacular fashion and at great human cost.

There is nothing more costly than cheap labor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That pesky US Constitution, what a pain.

OP here.

I wrote this post as a resident of SE DC out of lament that crime is skyrocketing in our city, but because of progressive criminal justice reform from the last few years and shrill harpy cries from naive idealists who attend our ANC and city council member meetings or lobby them for lenient policies (for example the youth rehab act, second look act, allowing dangerous speeders with tens of thousands to not lose their license for any reason, or simply allowing shoplifting to happen) we are too kneecapped by political correctness and shaming to actually crack down on crime like El Salvador.

People become indignant and appalled when someone says “lock them up.”

It’s clearly working in El Salvador. I am not saying abandon due process. I am simply saying stop with the permissive bullsht. Implement broken windows policing. Hire more officers. Get an AG that actually prosecutes. Fix the crime lab. Basically, do what it takes. I’m really sorry the statistics of arrests aren’t great. That sucks. You know what else sucks? The city getting boarded up and people smoking crack on the street like they did in 1991. Maybe we should not let the city return to that? Yeah?

I’m sick of these weak willed bleeding heart crime apologists. Fking do something. Look at El Salvador.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Charles Allen wants the opposite of what El Salvador is doing.

Ding ding ding!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
The world sends its violent criminals and insane people right over Biden’s Border.

They would be stupid not to.

Only Trump cares about a civilized country.

I know this post is sarcasm, but it’s a sad commentary when it pretty much rings true.

No offense, but entire, fairly large sectors of the US economy would pretty much cease to function if we didn't have immigrants coming to the US (of which probably 99%+ are non-violent).

Funny how the same people supposedly decrying the southern border are hiring contractors, landscapers, housecleaners, purchasing their food that resulted from immigrants picking the food or packing the meat, etc.

BTW, who do you think is going to take care of you when you age and your kids don't want to do it (take a guess...it is a lot of those same immigrants).

What BS.

Well, that was a well-thought, reasoned response.

Short and accurate.
The drain on our social service resources and public schools alone far outweigh any of these so called benefits.

Yet you will happily continue to hire all these “illegals” to do your landscaping and clean your house and paint your house and the list goes on.

No I won't.
I'm not cheap like you.

Sure…because there are so many native born Americans performing these jobs.

The only reason you won’t is actually because you are probably LMC and can’t afford to hire anyone.

I am definitely lower middle class. Maybe even whatever class is lower than that?

What’s your point, exactly? That we can’t afford to hire “help”? Well duh, Captain Obvious. But even if we could, we still wouldn’t, because it’s illegal and wrong.

But it’s telling about you that you think the only difference between you and I is money. We couldn’t be any more different.

I assume there are plenty of differences…but it seems like your decision not to hire these services is really a financial issue and not a moral one. FWIW, you are one of the few on DCUM highlighting your LMC status…didn’t think they existed.

What exactly is this obsession you seem to have with poor-shaming us? I am not the least bit ashamed that we earn less than you, and I would love to hear your reasoning as to why we should.

And our decision not to hire illegal immigrants for home services has everything to do with moral grounds, not financial. I can say that with certainty, because even if we earned double our income, we still wouldn’t - because it’s just wrong.

We’re a union household, both of us. And hiring illegals hurts union workers by depressing the wage floor in occupations where union labor used to ensure a fair wage for working people.

You assume that we are different because you’re wealthy and we’re not. That’s not why.