This. I've offered to answer any questions BIL/SIL as their son starts college apps since they didn't go to college (DH was first in family) but I also fully recognize that the most likely path is he'll go to ODU and live at home, just like DH did. Or success could mean certificate or apprentice programs through their community college. I would be a bit more assertive about suggesting they take a shot at highly selective schools if I knew he had the kind of stellar academic profile that makes that conversation even worth having but he doesn't (and neither did my kids!). Yeah, merit aid is great and we definitely learned a lot about that and used it for DD to go to the small private she wanted. But, for the most part, merit aid is for affluent, but not very-affluent families, who can pay the $40-$50K for their kids to go away to college. Of course, those "blue collar" families may also be affluent. My wealthiest relative is an electrician who has built up a very successful electrical contracting company. And one of my nephews does well with his own auto repair business (community college certification, no 4-year college). So you don't always know what is going on and class differences can be hard to navigate between siblings. |
| Hmmm... I MYOB when it comes to my "less sophisticated" family members. You should also STFU, IMHO. |
| I'd just offer assistance to my niece if she has any questions and remind her that her cousins recently went through the process. |
I think she has. Ugh! |
| So, I have a different take on this thread. I'm helping a family where the HHI is $40K. Their student qualifies for a full ride (minus $2-5K) at every school they are considering. The family had NO IDEA this was true until I showed them how the NPC worked, walked them through the CSS, etc. Now the student can apply to many more schools. I am doing this as volunteer work, but it might apply to OP's family, too. Sometimes people don't know what they don't know and it can disadvantage their kids needlessly. |
| Gosh, OP - I really can’t imagine why your brother hasn’t come to you, hat in hand, on bended knee, to plead for your “sophistication” and wise counsel! What an ignorant rube he must be. |
I have heard more than a handful of clueless parents brag about those automatic "scholarships" to noncompetitive colleges, as if anyone at low tier colleges plays sticker price. Apparently that hustle works on gullible parents. It's like going to TJ Maxx or Nordstrom Rack and bragging you got something for half off the sticker price. |
| So tell us what mistakes they made. |
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The comedic relief one gets here observing equivalently tone-deaf shrews attacking each other is really priceless.
How dare you express such narcissistic, pseudo-intellectual views of your family?! Now, see here! Watch me express how horrible you are by going on a narcissistic, pseudo-intellectual bender of my own, where I fulfill my public duty by judging you based on two paragraphs, and then flog / dress you down for expressing something no less cringe-y than what I have to say in response! |
It can be even more destructive than this. Some parents arrogantly think they know what they're doing in admissions, when they haven't a clue. They are easy marks who think a $30K "scholarship" offered to their kid to make a regional private college "only" $29K a year out of pocket is a steal. Same for regional public universities who give every out-of-state applicants a "scholarship" to make the tuition closer to in-state costs. Many gullible families have no idea this is just a discount offered to everyone. |
This. Between DH and I, we have 6 degrees. And 2 kids in college. And yet DH's siblings who didn't go to college didn't reach out when their first child was applying. Nor did we expect them too. We would ask questions, "how is it going? this time of year can be stressful!" and left it at that. My brother is a MD, but I don't call asking him for advice for every ailment. |
Did not apply for any outside scholarships. 4.0 GPA but submitted good not great test scores when she should not have. Did not know about app fee waivers. Did not know she is technically a under-represented minority. Did not apply to any T25s when they have the most financial aid and their family is MC. Essays were dime a dozen cliche. She is deeply involved in a really, really hook-ish activity but she did not mention it at all because she was embarrassed. They think the automatic tuition discounts regional non-selective universities are offering them are amazing scholarships only offered to her. They are letting the mailers they random receive drive their interest. |
Every essay is cliche except for the ones that are trying too hard. The sad part is how many kids who don't realize that the best and most expensive schools are usually the cheapest for middle class families. |
| Your kids would have been happy to help their middle class cousins. What lovelies. Too bad they are they aren’t older because I’m sure Penn would have given more aid if your DS had devoted his essay to such important charity work. |
How'd that work out for them? Where did the kid go, how much debt has he or she taken on? |