PSAT scores/National Merit

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Anonymous wrote:My child did poorly in the reading section, she received a 610, while a 740 on math section. Any suggestions on how to improve?

Sorry I meant a 510
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PSAT for 11th graders is out today?
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Anonymous wrote:My child did poorly in the reading section, she received a 610, while a 740 on math section. Any suggestions on how to improve?
does you child read a lot for pleasure? if not then start with that, classics, not easy reading material.
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Anonymous wrote:My child did poorly in the reading section, she received a 610, while a 740 on math section. Any suggestions on how to improve?
does you child read a lot for pleasure? if not then start with that, classics, not easy reading material.
also things like The Economist are good reading practice. Often and widely.
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You can also have them take tons of practice tests. I bought about 10 books and my kid just took about 50 English practice tests-one a day for a month and a half this summer. After awhile they start developing pattern recognition. My kid can read a reading passage and answer questions in their sleep.
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Anonymous wrote:You can also have them take tons of practice tests. I bought about 10 books and my kid just took about 50 English practice tests-one a day for a month and a half this summer. After awhile they start developing pattern recognition. My kid can read a reading passage and answer questions in their sleep.


Can you recommend any books since it seemed to work for your kid ?
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Anonymous wrote:"How is the Selection Index calculated?
The Selection Index is double the sum of your Reading and Writing (RW) score, and Math score divided by 10. Alternatively, you can simply drop the last zero on your section scores, double the RW and add the Math. For example, a student with scores of 690 RW and 720 M would have a Selection Index of 69 x 2 + 72 = 210. You cannot directly calculate a Selection Index from a Total Score (320 – 1520). For students entering the competition with an SAT score through Alternate Entry, note that — when calculating a Selection Index — each SAT section is capped at 760. If, for example, you have a 700 RW and 800 Math, your Selection Index would be 70 x2 + 76 = 216."
https://www.compassprep.com/psat-national-merit-faq/


So it's gender biased. They count the RW double to give the girls an advantage.


Why would they need to do that? I thought girls are doing much better than boys at school? Shouldn't the boys get a leg-up instead?

My observation is that girls are doing better at subjective things and boys are doing better at objective things.
So when something is awarded or determined by a test with clear cut right/wrong answers, boys do better.
When something is awarded or determined when an individual or committee that decides what is the the best, girls do better.


I think historically they reported reading and writing separately so they doubled each so reading , writing, and Math were all ultimately given the same weight since reading comprehension and writing mechanics are separate skills

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Anonymous wrote:"How is the Selection Index calculated?
The Selection Index is double the sum of your Reading and Writing (RW) score, and Math score divided by 10. Alternatively, you can simply drop the last zero on your section scores, double the RW and add the Math. For example, a student with scores of 690 RW and 720 M would have a Selection Index of 69 x 2 + 72 = 210. You cannot directly calculate a Selection Index from a Total Score (320 – 1520). For students entering the competition with an SAT score through Alternate Entry, note that — when calculating a Selection Index — each SAT section is capped at 760. If, for example, you have a 700 RW and 800 Math, your Selection Index would be 70 x2 + 76 = 216."
https://www.compassprep.com/psat-national-merit-faq/


So it's gender biased. They count the RW double to give the girls an advantage.


Why would they need to do that? I thought girls are doing much better than boys at school? Shouldn't the boys get a leg-up instead?

My observation is that girls are doing better at subjective things and boys are doing better at objective things.
So when something is awarded or determined by a test with clear cut right/wrong answers, boys do better.
When something is awarded or determined when an individual or committee that decides what is the the best, girls do better.



Where are you coming up with this ? Please site some data and not your “observations “
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Anonymous wrote:You can also have them take tons of practice tests. I bought about 10 books and my kid just took about 50 English practice tests-one a day for a month and a half this summer. After awhile they start developing pattern recognition. My kid can read a reading passage and answer questions in their sleep.


The kid took practice tests 50 days in a row? 1) This isn't real. 2) And even if it was true, I bet they still wouldn't raise their average score by 50 points.
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Anonymous wrote:"How is the Selection Index calculated?
The Selection Index is double the sum of your Reading and Writing (RW) score, and Math score divided by 10. Alternatively, you can simply drop the last zero on your section scores, double the RW and add the Math. For example, a student with scores of 690 RW and 720 M would have a Selection Index of 69 x 2 + 72 = 210. You cannot directly calculate a Selection Index from a Total Score (320 – 1520). For students entering the competition with an SAT score through Alternate Entry, note that — when calculating a Selection Index — each SAT section is capped at 760. If, for example, you have a 700 RW and 800 Math, your Selection Index would be 70 x2 + 76 = 216."
https://www.compassprep.com/psat-national-merit-faq/


So it's gender biased. They count the RW double to give the girls an advantage.


Why would they need to do that? I thought girls are doing much better than boys at school? Shouldn't the boys get a leg-up instead?

My observation is that girls are doing better at subjective things and boys are doing better at objective things.
So when something is awarded or determined by a test with clear cut right/wrong answers, boys do better.
When something is awarded or determined when an individual or committee that decides what is the the best, girls do better.



Where are you coming up with this ? Please site some data and not your “observations “


No.

I stated very clearly that it was my observation and not based on data. If you don’t care to read my observation just scroll on.
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Anonymous wrote:You can also have them take tons of practice tests. I bought about 10 books and my kid just took about 50 English practice tests-one a day for a month and a half this summer. After awhile they start developing pattern recognition. My kid can read a reading passage and answer questions in their sleep.


What a sad, sad summer.
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Anonymous wrote:You can also have them take tons of practice tests. I bought about 10 books and my kid just took about 50 English practice tests-one a day for a month and a half this summer. After awhile they start developing pattern recognition. My kid can read a reading passage and answer questions in their sleep.


What a sad, sad summer.


Not the OP, but I spent my summers bailing hay and shoveling cow shi*. At least this one presumably had some AC in their life.
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Anonymous wrote:My child did poorly in the reading section, she received a 610, while a 740 on math section. Any suggestions on how to improve?


They can link their scores to Khan Academy, and the site will suggest a prep plan based on their scores on the various subtests.
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Anonymous wrote:If you get a perfect PSAT are you pretty much guaranteed NMSF?


Yes. 1520 = SI of 228 (76 x3) = enough in any state to meet the NMSF threshold.
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Anonymous wrote:My child did poorly in the reading section, she received a 610, while a 740 on math section. Any suggestions on how to improve?


According to PP logic on this thread, your child is a boy.
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