Question about Alexandria City HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

Correct. It's the only way the city avoids a full blown exodus of UMC white families, either to all private or to Arlington. We are the only thing keeping the east end from being Annandale.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

Correct. It's the only way the city avoids a full blown exodus of UMC white families, either to all private or to Arlington. We are the only thing keeping the east end from being Annandale.

Can you explain this further?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

It isn't like the school administration sits down and divides the kids into groups. Segregation happens all on its own, just like it does at other high schools. The higher achieving, extracurricular-successful and engaged students take honors classes. Those who didn't come from the wealthy, high performing elementary schools are not registering for honors classes in high school. Like it or not, certain groups of students gravitate more to certain activities and all kids tend to make friends/hang out with kids from among the classes and activities they're in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

It isn't like the school administration sits down and divides the kids into groups. Segregation happens all on its own, just like it does at other high schools. The higher achieving, extracurricular-successful and engaged students take honors classes. Those who didn't come from the wealthy, high performing elementary schools are not registering for honors classes in high school. Like it or not, certain groups of students gravitate more to certain activities and all kids tend to make friends/hang out with kids from among the classes and activities they're in.

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

[Anonymous]

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

I don't agree. Lots of parents are trying to make the situation better by volunteering, getting involved, donating to donors choose and the PTA, and advocating to improve the schools.
I don't think the school system is good, but I also think it would be very difficult for any school system to solve the overwhelming problems that some of the students are facing in their lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

Correct. It's the only way the city avoids a full blown exodus of UMC white families, either to all private or to Arlington. We are the only thing keeping the east end from being Annandale.

Can you explain this further?

Explain what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

It isn't like the school administration sits down and divides the kids into groups. Segregation happens all on its own, just like it does at other high schools. The higher achieving, extracurricular-successful and engaged students take honors classes. Those who didn't come from the wealthy, high performing elementary schools are not registering for honors classes in high school. Like it or not, certain groups of students gravitate more to certain activities and all kids tend to make friends/hang out with kids from among the classes and activities they're in.

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

Ahhh, the soft bigotry of low expectations. I love it when the left reveals just how racist they actually are.

Why, yes, of course it is on the UMC white families of teenagers to fix the cultural issues (self made) in the poor, black community. Because they can't help themselves right? They NEED Ava and Jack's parents to step in and help them right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

It isn't like the school administration sits down and divides the kids into groups. Segregation happens all on its own, just like it does at other high schools. The higher achieving, extracurricular-successful and engaged students take honors classes. Those who didn't come from the wealthy, high performing elementary schools are not registering for honors classes in high school. Like it or not, certain groups of students gravitate more to certain activities and all kids tend to make friends/hang out with kids from among the classes and activities they're in.

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

Ahhh, the soft bigotry of low expectations. I love it when the left reveals just how racist they actually are.

Why, yes, of course it is on the UMC white families of teenagers to fix the cultural issues (self made) in the poor, black community. Because they can't help themselves right? They NEED Ava and Jack's parents to step in and help them right?

What? Your dots don’t connect and you’re ridiculous. Never did I write that it was up to UMC white families to fix anything. I said that they refuse to acknowledge there are problems in the school because their precious kids never see it, and that segregation is working well for them.

On the other hand, you said there are cultural, self made issues in the poor black community (your direct words, see above). Maybe self reflect on that. Seriously, you’re disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

It isn't like the school administration sits down and divides the kids into groups. Segregation happens all on its own, just like it does at other high schools. The higher achieving, extracurricular-successful and engaged students take honors classes. Those who didn't come from the wealthy, high performing elementary schools are not registering for honors classes in high school. Like it or not, certain groups of students gravitate more to certain activities and all kids tend to make friends/hang out with kids from among the classes and activities they're in.

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

Ahhh, the soft bigotry of low expectations. I love it when the left reveals just how racist they actually are.

Why, yes, of course it is on the UMC white families of teenagers to fix the cultural issues (self made) in the poor, black community. Because they can't help themselves right? They NEED Ava and Jack's parents to step in and help them right?

What? Your dots don’t connect and you’re ridiculous. Never did I write that it was up to UMC white families to fix anything. I said that they refuse to acknowledge there are problems in the school because their precious kids never see it, and that segregation is working well for them.

On the other hand, you said there are cultural, self made issues in the poor black community (your direct words, see above). Maybe self reflect on that. Seriously, you’re disgusting.

I see the problems and have 2 kids at AC. They wouldn't be there if they had to comingle with the gangbangers and murderers. And we know yours wouldn't be either. Keep the name calling coming; it fits perfectly with your racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

It isn't like the school administration sits down and divides the kids into groups. Segregation happens all on its own, just like it does at other high schools. The higher achieving, extracurricular-successful and engaged students take honors classes. Those who didn't come from the wealthy, high performing elementary schools are not registering for honors classes in high school. Like it or not, certain groups of students gravitate more to certain activities and all kids tend to make friends/hang out with kids from among the classes and activities they're in.

There are zero "high performing" elementary schools in ACPS. Lyles Crouch has the best results in the city and it's just barely meeting or slightly exceeding state levels of proficiency. It was evident in the most recent results in the US DOE's National report card, VA has some of the lowest proficiency standards in the country.

What schools are you referring to as "wealthy" and what is your criteria for that? Some of the east end schools are the lowest performing schools when you look at the proficiency levels for economically disadvantaged students. The UMC kids get quietly tutored so the levels for the economically disadvantaged students is the real measure. Again, only Lyles Crouch does a decent job. George Mason, Barrett, Brooks, MVCS are a disgrace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

I don't agree. Lots of parents are trying to make the situation better by volunteering, getting involved, donating to donors choose and the PTA, and advocating to improve the schools.
I don't think the school system is good, but I also think it would be very difficult for any school system to solve the overwhelming problems that some of the students are facing in their lives.

The PTAs (except for two on the west end) do absolutely nothing to advocate for students. PTAC is even worse. They don't organize parents, they don't go to school board meetings. They tell parents to give them money and to bake cookies.

Where are the parents advocating to improve schools? They certainly don't show up at school board meetings or organize. They post on facebook pages that are monitored and curated by ACPS sycophants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

I don't agree. Lots of parents are trying to make the situation better by volunteering, getting involved, donating to donors choose and the PTA, and advocating to improve the schools.
I don't think the school system is good, but I also think it would be very difficult for any school system to solve the overwhelming problems that some of the students are facing in their lives.

But let’s be honest they do those things bc they want their kid to have a certain High school experience and they want to have it as well as the parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I hear a lot of talk about 2 tracks in public for MS/HS grades where if you are in Honors classes and hang out with the "right" kids, you are more insulated from the violence/stress/general environment of the school(s). Is this correct? Is your kid just not affected at all because in our very nice neighborhood, it seems that the kids all go to public but I always wonder with all the stuff you hear about MS/HS, how can they stand it?

How on earth does any parent allow their kid to enroll in either MS/HS if it really is chaotic most of the time?

Correct. The school are segregated. "My kid is in honors/AP so they never see the violence" is code for the schools are segregated and we don't care because it is advantageous to us.

It isn't like the school administration sits down and divides the kids into groups. Segregation happens all on its own, just like it does at other high schools. The higher achieving, extracurricular-successful and engaged students take honors classes. Those who didn't come from the wealthy, high performing elementary schools are not registering for honors classes in high school. Like it or not, certain groups of students gravitate more to certain activities and all kids tend to make friends/hang out with kids from among the classes and activities they're in.

NP here. Sure, but there is an issue with all these UMC white kids whose parents profusely claim their kids never see any fights or have any problems in ACPS because they’re basically segregated in honors classes making friends only with the other white UMC kids whose parents make identical claims. These parents will cling onto these claims with an iron fist in opposition to any complaints about ACPS, and they don’t think any changes are needed because it’s working for them, their kids get to claim they were in all honors in a very poor performing school system to the detriment to minorities and poorer kids that go there. They’re not fighting or supporting widespread school changes, they’re not acknowledging or supporting changes that would help the other students, unless it starts effecting their kid (such as their kid gets beat up or can’t go to the bathroom during the day). Out of sight, out of mind.

And that position is horrible for society in general, racists, and gross.

Ahhh, the soft bigotry of low expectations. I love it when the left reveals just how racist they actually are.

Why, yes, of course it is on the UMC white families of teenagers to fix the cultural issues (self made) in the poor, black community. Because they can't help themselves right? They NEED Ava and Jack's parents to step in and help them right?

What? Your dots don’t connect and you’re ridiculous. Never did I write that it was up to UMC white families to fix anything. I said that they refuse to acknowledge there are problems in the school because their precious kids never see it, and that segregation is working well for them.

On the other hand, you said there are cultural, self made issues in the poor black community (your direct words, see above). Maybe self reflect on that. Seriously, you’re disgusting.

I see the problems and have 2 kids at AC. They wouldn't be there if they had to comingle with the gangbangers and murderers. And we know yours wouldn't be either. Keep the name calling coming; it fits perfectly with your racism.

I’m glad you can find some humor in a humorless situation and where exactly is my racism?