Which of these schools have engineering as strong or stronger than UMD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fencing

No, water polo.

-- OP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DS plays a sport and his coach is telling him to make up a list of schools and start reaching out to coaches. Since we're in Maryland, and since accepting a coach's offer of support would mean giving up a shot at UMD, he's only interested in schools that would be at least roughly similar or better in his chosen field, which is engineering, although he is undecided as to which major.

Any thoughts on which schools on this list meet that criteria? Some are obvious of course.

Brown
Bucknell
Caltech
George Washington
Harvard
Harvey Mudd
Johns Hopkins
Loyola Marymount
MIT
Princeton
Santa Clara
Stanford
UC - Berkeley
UC - Davis
UC - Irvine
UCLA
UC - Merced
UC - San Diego
UC - Santa Barbara
USC

Interesting position

Went through this with DC last year. Tons of offers from D3 schools. But wanted to study engineering and all the good programs are D1 schools.

For schools like MIT and Caltech, I don't think the athlete angle makes too much of a difference. Elsewhere, a coach's note will help on the margins

If this is a genuine top student that wants to compete and study engineering:

Cornell
Rice
Duke
Northwestern

Wouldn't bother with out of sate publics, particularly the UCs. And Maryland is a very good school for engineering

Also, D1 sports are hardcore. Not for everyone

None of those schools have the sport.

Cornell has a strong engineering program and Rice is decent. Duke and Northwestern, not so much

Right, and he might apply to one or all of them. But right now he's not deciding where to apply, he's deciding which coaches to reach out to, and since none of them have a coach in his sport, they aren't on the list.

Ah. So it doesn't matter. Colleges care about football, basketball, hockey, track, swimming

Sometimes baseball

There are like ten schools that care about crew and volleyball

If someone is having a hard time finding a coach, it mean that no one cares

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DS plays a sport and his coach is telling him to make up a list of schools and start reaching out to coaches. Since we're in Maryland, and since accepting a coach's offer of support would mean giving up a shot at UMD, he's only interested in schools that would be at least roughly similar or better in his chosen field, which is engineering, although he is undecided as to which major.

Any thoughts on which schools on this list meet that criteria? Some are obvious of course.

Brown
Bucknell
Caltech
George Washington
Harvard
Harvey Mudd
Johns Hopkins
Loyola Marymount
MIT
Princeton
Santa Clara
Stanford
UC - Berkeley
UC - Davis
UC - Irvine
UCLA
UC - Merced
UC - San Diego
UC - Santa Barbara
USC

Interesting position

Went through this with DC last year. Tons of offers from D3 schools. But wanted to study engineering and all the good programs are D1 schools.

For schools like MIT and Caltech, I don't think the athlete angle makes too much of a difference. Elsewhere, a coach's note will help on the margins

If this is a genuine top student that wants to compete and study engineering:

Cornell
Rice
Duke
Northwestern

Wouldn't bother with out of sate publics, particularly the UCs. And Maryland is a very good school for engineering

Also, D1 sports are hardcore. Not for everyone

None of those schools have the sport.

Cornell has a strong engineering program and Rice is decent. Duke and Northwestern, not so much

Right, and he might apply to one or all of them. But right now he's not deciding where to apply, he's deciding which coaches to reach out to, and since none of them have a coach in his sport, they aren't on the list.

Ah. So it doesn't matter. Colleges care about football, basketball, hockey, track, swimming

Sometimes baseball

There are like ten schools that care about crew and volleyball

If someone is having a hard time finding a coach, it mean that no one cares

Huh?

No one is having a hard time finding a coach. Those schools don't have water polo teams, so of course they don't have water polo coaches. I am not sure what you are trying to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS plays a sport and his coach is telling him to make up a list of schools and start reaching out to coaches. Since we're in Maryland, and since accepting a coach's offer of support would mean giving up a shot at UMD, he's only interested in schools that would be at least roughly similar or better in his chosen field, which is engineering, although he is undecided as to which major.

Any thoughts on which schools on this list meet that criteria? Some are obvious of course.

Brown
Bucknell
Caltech
George Washington
Harvard
Harvey Mudd
Johns Hopkins
Loyola Marymount
MIT
Princeton
Santa Clara
Stanford
UC - Berkeley
UC - Davis
UC - Irvine
UCLA
UC - Merced
UC - San Diego
UC - Santa Barbara
USC

From a purely academic standpoint, for engineering I would rank the following above UMD:
CalTech
MIT
Stanford
Princeton
Berkeley

[Anonymous]

I think places like Bucknell and Harvey mudd are qualitatively different because you get the small school experience and more face time with tenured professors which is a real plus for some kids. I know engineers that did their undergrads there and really liked if. Both went on for phds, once at Stanford and the other at northwestern. So one question for your kid is if that smaller school feel is a plus for them.

[Anonymous]

I am surprised Hopkins isn't getting more love here. Do people really think it's below UMD?

[Anonymous]

https://websites.umich.edu/~umpolo/

[Anonymous]

Maryland (and all of the others on your list) is strong enough to educate ANY student who wants to get an education in engineering. This is the way to look at it, not trying to parse out which school is "better" than the others. Make the decision based on what specific programs in engineering they have that DS likes, how much it will cost bottom line, what opportunities there are for internships/research positions for undergrads, and whatever else matters to him and you. Does he like the location? What non-academic factors are important to him? Etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://websites.umich.edu/~umpolo/

It’s like the MD team, it’s a club team so it doesn’t come with the possibility of an admission boost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Make sure to ask about whether engineering major is compatible with the sport.

It’s not. It’s a recipe for failure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Make sure to ask about whether engineering major is compatible with the sport.

It’s not. It’s a recipe for failure

Yeah but parents/kids believe they are somehow “different”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS plays a sport and his coach is telling him to make up a list of schools and start reaching out to coaches. Since we're in Maryland, and since accepting a coach's offer of support would mean giving up a shot at UMD, he's only interested in schools that would be at least roughly similar or better in his chosen field, which is engineering, although he is undecided as to which major.

Any thoughts on which schools on this list meet that criteria? Some are obvious of course.

Brown
Bucknell
Caltech
George Washington
Harvard
Harvey Mudd
Johns Hopkins
Loyola Marymount
MIT
Princeton
Santa Clara
Stanford
UC - Berkeley
UC - Davis
UC - Irvine
UCLA
UC - Merced
UC - San Diego
UC - Santa Barbara
USC

Taking out the UCs for a moment, I would take Brown, Loyola Marymount and Santa Clara off the list, all others are equal or better.

UC Berkeley would be an option as well.

[Anonymous]

I think you need to be very realistic about cost. Do you not want to pay more than in-state tuition at UMD? That is going to be hard. Engineering is also a difficult major. How many kids play this sport at the school and are engineering majors? A lot of the schools on your list don't give merit aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fencing

No, water polo.

-- OP

Ok, why did you have to be so secretive about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fencing

No, water polo.

-- OP

Ok, why did you have to be so secretive about it?

No one asked, and it wasn't relevant to what I wanted to know.

My guess is that this will now become a thread about water polo, which isn't what I need to know at this point.