UVA no longer deferring early apps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1,040 accepted ED in 2022 (4,243 applied)
1,109 accepted ED in 2021 (3,466 applied)
965 accepted ED in 2020 (2,937 applied)
748 accepted ED in 2019 (2,159 applied)

If the trend continues, applications will go up.

Can most likely lock in 2/3 or 3/4 of the out of state quota in ED. Then cherry pick the rest of out of state from RD.

Accept that isn’t what UVA does because they don’t favor ED

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is yield protection because UVA will now admit a greater percentage via ED which is the ultimate form of yield protection.

Where did it say they would accept more at ED/EA? Wasn't the announcement only relevant to applicants who were not accepted at ED/EA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOS students waitlisted by UVA actually have a fairly large chance to be eventually admitted given the low OOS yield rate. But for in-state students, maybe 5% to get off the waitlist?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There never was a defer really it was just a nice way to say denied or waitlist.

I guess now you know if you are on the waitlist.

Last year, DC’s good friend (OOS) was deferred in ED and accepted in RD. It did happen for some kids.

Sure it happens for some but I wouldn't say it's a fairly large chance. Our OOS DC wasn't accepted in RD after EA deferral - a very strong student. I think these chances can be found in UVA's data if you want to look though.

[Anonymous]

All the athletes are ED so not sure if ED is easier.

[Anonymous]

Overall yield increased at UVA after ED was initiated. Of course it’s yield protection!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Overall yield increased at UVA after ED was initiated. Of course it’s yield protection!

You always post that. Yield protection is the practice of rejecting top applicants because there's an assumption they aren't going to enroll.

ED has 100% yield and it's a totally different thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1,040 accepted ED in 2022 (4,243 applied)
1,109 accepted ED in 2021 (3,466 applied)
965 accepted ED in 2020 (2,937 applied)
748 accepted ED in 2019 (2,159 applied)

If the trend continues, applications will go up.

Can most likely lock in 2/3 or 3/4 of the out of state quota in ED. Then cherry pick the rest of out of state from RD.

Accept that isn’t what UVA does because they don’t favor ED

Check out “New Out-of-State Recruit” thread. UVA is competing with other state flagships for full pay students. They are going to lock in as many OOS applicants as they can to offset state budget losses.

Colleges are business as well as educational institutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1,040 accepted ED in 2022 (4,243 applied)
1,109 accepted ED in 2021 (3,466 applied)
965 accepted ED in 2020 (2,937 applied)
748 accepted ED in 2019 (2,159 applied)

If the trend continues, applications will go up.

Can most likely lock in 2/3 or 3/4 of the out of state quota in ED. Then cherry pick the rest of out of state from RD.

Accept that isn’t what UVA does because they don’t favor ED

Check out “New Out-of-State Recruit” thread. UVA is competing with other state flagships for full pay students. They are going to lock in as many OOS applicants as they can to offset state budget losses.

Colleges are business as well as educational institutions.

It is much harder to get into UVA for OOS applicants, even in the ED round.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Overall yield increased at UVA after ED was initiated. Of course it’s yield protection!

sorry but tht makes no sense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overall yield increased at UVA after ED was initiated. Of course it’s yield protection!

You always post that. Yield protection is the practice of rejecting top applicants because there's an assumption they aren't going to enroll.

ED has 100% yield and it's a totally different thing.

So why did UVA’s yield rate rise remarkably after it initiated ED? Are you actually believing that UVA started to offer ED for anything other but to increase its yield? Technically it might not fit the exact definition of yield protection, but the end result is that it definitely increases yield. That’s the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overall yield increased at UVA after ED was initiated. Of course it’s yield protection!

You always post that. Yield protection is the practice of rejecting top applicants because there's an assumption they aren't going to enroll.

ED has 100% yield and it's a totally different thing.

So why did UVA’s yield rate rise remarkably after it initiated ED? Are you actually believing that UVA started to offer ED for anything other but to increase its yield? Technically it might not fit the exact definition of yield protection, but the end result is that it definitely increases yield. That’s the point.

One more time. The practice of rejecting top applicants is called yield protection.

ED affects overall yield rate, but it is not the practice of rejecting top applicants.

People explain this time and again to you, so now I think you're either obtuse or think you're funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overall yield increased at UVA after ED was initiated. Of course it’s yield protection!

You always post that. Yield protection is the practice of rejecting top applicants because there's an assumption they aren't going to enroll.

ED has 100% yield and it's a totally different thing.

So why did UVA’s yield rate rise remarkably after it initiated ED? Are you actually believing that UVA started to offer ED for anything other but to increase its yield? Technically it might not fit the exact definition of yield protection, but the end result is that it definitely increases yield. That’s the point.

One more time. The practice of rejecting top applicants is called yield protection.

ED affects overall yield rate, but it is not the practice of rejecting top applicants.

People explain this time and again to you, so now I think you're either obtuse or think you're funny.

Agree. And this change to no longer defer has nothing at all to do with increasing yield or yield protection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the athletes are ED so not sure if ED is easier.

Athletes are EA at UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1,040 accepted ED in 2022 (4,243 applied)
1,109 accepted ED in 2021 (3,466 applied)
965 accepted ED in 2020 (2,937 applied)
748 accepted ED in 2019 (2,159 applied)

If the trend continues, applications will go up.

Can most likely lock in 2/3 or 3/4 of the out of state quota in ED. Then cherry pick the rest of out of state from RD.

Accept that isn’t what UVA does because they don’t favor ED

Right. Dean J clearly says that the most competitive applicants are in EA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overall yield increased at UVA after ED was initiated. Of course it’s yield protection!

You always post that. Yield protection is the practice of rejecting top applicants because there's an assumption they aren't going to enroll.

ED has 100% yield and it's a totally different thing.

So why did UVA’s yield rate rise remarkably after it initiated ED? Are you actually believing that UVA started to offer ED for anything other but to increase its yield? Technically it might not fit the exact definition of yield protection, but the end result is that it definitely increases yield. That’s the point.

One more time. The practice of rejecting top applicants is called yield protection.

ED affects overall yield rate, but it is not the practice of rejecting top applicants.

People explain this time and again to you, so now I think you're either obtuse or think you're funny.

And for the last time, I mentioned that while ED might not be considered yield protection in its definition, the end result is that yield rates go up. UVA initiated ED because too many top students were rejecting their offer of admission. In my opinion, forcing a student to have to enroll in a school that he/she might otherwise reject is far worse than so called yield protection. A 17-18 year old kid shouldn’t be forced to refuse an admittance to a better/more fitted school for themselves in any circumstance. Schools can just cherry pick the very best candidates who apply ED and claim they’re not using it to protect/increase yield; thus not yield protection in definition. I don’t feel that so called yield protection, which no university would ever admit to doing, is any worse/better than offering ED.