fitness DVDs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can't help it, have to add I think the BL TV show is horrible as it shows the most unhealthy, unrealistic way to lose weight. Who can keep up that type of exercise regime? I wonder how many injuries they hide? How realistic is it to maintain a diet program that had one of the finalists crying at a restaurant because she couldn't eat anything?

My plan would be to eat healthy, cut back, exercise and see what your body does. I think its more realistic to lose 1-2 pounds, but some weeks you may lose more. If you feel OK, go with your body.

What type of intensity are you looking for with exercise DVDs? Are you a beginner or advanced? I think its best to start out slow and build up, because injuries are hard to recover from.

I agree 100%. Plus, I've read stories about how the BL contestants dehydrate themselves to a dangerous degree before weigh-ins, just so that their total weight loss is even bigger for that week. I also agree with you that it's realistic to lose 1-2 pounds but some weeks you may lose more, especially at the beginning if you really make significant changes to your diet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On and on with the BL criticisms. Once the contestants reach their goal weight, they do not have to keep up with the same intensity and duration of their workouts. They switch to a maintenance workout. Duh.

They do not hide any injuries. When Laura from Season 7 broke her pelvis, no one hid that. When Simone from Season 7 suffered an injury, no one hid that. When Tracey collapsed after running a mile in the opening challenge of Season 8, they showed her being air-lifted to a hospital. Mo from the same season had to be hospitalized for a brief period after than mile. They admitted that that particular challenge was not a good idea, and said if they had it to do over again, they wouldn't have done it. Mike Ventrella (the winner from season 9) was hospitalized for heat cramps after the opening bicycle challenge, and that was not hidden. And on and on. Miggy had to have surgery for appendicitis in Season 9, and that was not hidden, even though it wasn't related to her weight loss. O'Neal sustained an injury to his leg during a challenge in Season 9 -- they worked around it. They showed him going to the hospital, too. And Maria from Season 9 also went to the hospital after falling on her face and breaking her nose during a challenge.

Yup, when you exercise, you can get injured. That's sports. BL never hided any of it. With all of that said in great detail -- most of the contestants do not get injured.

I don't remember an episode in which one of the contestants was crying at a restaurant because she could not eat anything. I doubt the legitimacy of your story, as I watch every episode. They take the contestants to restaurants to teach them how to eat there, so that does not ring true to me. I do remember Tara crying that she ate some pita chips. People on that show cry a lot. I just don't recall it happening in a restaurant. And, as I think I've demonstrated above, had that happened, I'd probably remember it.

You sound horribly informed PP. You've concluded BL is the Devil, and now you want to find facts to support your conclusion. Most people look at facts first, and then form conclusions, but you go right ahead at have it your way.

Like I said, I'm the one wearing the bikini.

Do you wear your bikini whilst watching, studying, and thoroughly taking notes during BL episodes? Seriously, you are a font of information on this subject. It's fascinating.

[Anonymous]

You agree 100% with everything I just refuted with specifics? Good for you!! Ignorance all around!! Cheers!

And yes, it is a weight loss competition. Contestants do try to drink as little water as possible the night before they weigh in. Most do not do so to the point of dehydration. It's really no different that what anyone might do before a big event that they wanted to look fab at. First, you'd try to lose some water weight. And the day of or on the night before the event, you'd cut back on the water. How many of us have not tried this at some point? How many of us did not do this for our own weddings? How many of us would not do this if a quarter of a million dollars were at stake.

I think I'd cut back on my water intake for 8-12 hours too. And then go back to consuming large amounts of water for the remainder of the week.

Oh, the horrors!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On and on with the BL criticisms. Once the contestants reach their goal weight, they do not have to keep up with the same intensity and duration of their workouts. They switch to a maintenance workout. Duh.

They do not hide any injuries. When Laura from Season 7 broke her pelvis, no one hid that. When Simone from Season 7 suffered an injury, no one hid that. When Tracey collapsed after running a mile in the opening challenge of Season 8, they showed her being air-lifted to a hospital. Mo from the same season had to be hospitalized for a brief period after than mile. They admitted that that particular challenge was not a good idea, and said if they had it to do over again, they wouldn't have done it. Mike Ventrella (the winner from season 9) was hospitalized for heat cramps after the opening bicycle challenge, and that was not hidden. And on and on. Miggy had to have surgery for appendicitis in Season 9, and that was not hidden, even though it wasn't related to her weight loss. O'Neal sustained an injury to his leg during a challenge in Season 9 -- they worked around it. They showed him going to the hospital, too. And Maria from Season 9 also went to the hospital after falling on her face and breaking her nose during a challenge.

Yup, when you exercise, you can get injured. That's sports. BL never hided any of it. With all of that said in great detail -- most of the contestants do not get injured.

I don't remember an episode in which one of the contestants was crying at a restaurant because she could not eat anything. I doubt the legitimacy of your story, as I watch every episode. They take the contestants to restaurants to teach them how to eat there, so that does not ring true to me. I do remember Tara crying that she ate some pita chips. People on that show cry a lot. I just don't recall it happening in a restaurant. And, as I think I've demonstrated above, had that happened, I'd probably remember it.

You sound horribly informed PP. You've concluded BL is the Devil, and now you want to find facts to support your conclusion. Most people look at facts first, and then form conclusions, but you go right ahead at have it your way.

Like I said, I'm the one wearing the bikini.

Do you wear your bikini whilst watching, studying, and thoroughly taking notes during BL episodes? Seriously, you are a font of information on this subject. It's fascinating.

Why does that bother you? I have an interest, and I pursue it. I'm interested in the exercise science and the science of weight loss. I seek information in the NYT and I consider anecdotal evidence as seen on BL. It's only 2 hours a week. What's the big deal. At least when I talk about the show, I know what I'm talking about. Other people who haven't watched the show talk about it without knowing what they're talking about. Who's more worthy of ridicule? Me or them?

[Anonymous]

I can't believe you're still going at it with your bikini attitude.

If you're this obsessed with your bikini body, something is unbalanced in your life. Do you have a family? And if so, do you have daughters? I can't imagine the damage you could possibly do to their self image.

And why take fat-burning pills when I can get a runner's high instead? Exercising (cardio and weights) and eating a balanced diet will naturally rev up your metabolism. There's no need to take supplements.

And do you REALLY know what I'm wearing at the pool? didn't think so . . . It doesn't seem as though you've been blessed with psychic abilities.

You are one fanatic.

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. My reply to PP got mixed with her question. Here is my reply:

Because people used a condescending tone with me -- calling me a hawker and a pusher, while I'm the one with better results.

And either read my posts, or enroll in a reading comprehension course. Where have I said anything about not getting your nutritional benefits through food? Nowhere.

FucoThin does is not a substitute for food. It is a natural compound of concentrated seaweed and pomegranite oil. It does is not a stimulant, and will not decrease your appetite. It is a fat-burner which will increase your metabolism by up to 20%. But who would want to boost their metabolism naturally? Like we do with water, and sleep, and exercise? FucaThin. If it is delivered in the form of a gelatin capsule, it must be the work of the devil. I guess my multi-vitamin, and my Glucosamine/Chondroitin, my Calcium supplement and my Lysine supplement are "pills" by your definition, too.

Such close-mindedness. Like I said, I'm the one wearing a bikini, not you. OP might do well to consider the source of her advice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Like I said, I'm the one wearing the bikini.

Do you wear your bikini whilst watching, studying, and thoroughly taking notes during BL episodes? Seriously, you are a font of information on this subject. It's fascinating.

Please add that she's also wearing her bikini whilst taking FucoThin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

videos:
- loved the older Firm videos
- Jari Love is great for weights.
- I recently hopped on the kettlebell craze b/c it's an efficient workout. (There are a few videos out there to get you going. Ryan Shanahan has some good - although somewhat redundant - routines.)

And don't expect miracles.

Is Ryan Shanahan the guy who does the kettleworkz DVDs? Are those the ones that you use? Would you recommend them? I want to try kettlebells but some of the DVDs look a little intimidating. Plus, there are so many conflicting reviews on all of them, where people say that so-and-so's DVD demonstrates terrible form, which I guess with kettlebells could be really bad news.

Too bad cindy whitmarsh doesn't have a kettlebell dvd, huh bikini lady?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe you're still going at it with your bikini attitude.

If you're this obsessed with your bikini body, something is unbalanced in your life. Do you have a family? And if so, do you have daughters? I can't imagine the damage you could possibly do to their self image.

And why take fat-burning pills when I can get a runner's high instead? Exercising (cardio and weights) and eating a balanced diet will naturally rev up your metabolism. There's no need to take supplements.

And do you REALLY know what I'm wearing at the pool? didn't think so . . . It doesn't seem as though you've been blessed with psychic abilities.

You are one fanatic.

Agree, agree, agree. Seriously, this is the porky, pudgy, petty PP here again ( ) here to say that my 4 miles this morning, complete with sprints for the middle two miles, did a hell of a lot more for me than I imagine any pricey supplements would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

videos:
- loved the older Firm videos
- Jari Love is great for weights.
- I recently hopped on the kettlebell craze b/c it's an efficient workout. (There are a few videos out there to get you going. Ryan Shanahan has some good - although somewhat redundant - routines.)

And don't expect miracles.

Is Ryan Shanahan the guy who does the kettleworkz DVDs? Are those the ones that you use? Would you recommend them? I want to try kettlebells but some of the DVDs look a little intimidating. Plus, there are so many conflicting reviews on all of them, where people say that so-and-so's DVD demonstrates terrible form, which I guess with kettlebells could be really bad news.

Too bad cindy whitmarsh doesn't have a kettlebell dvd, huh bikini lady?

I caved and purchased his videos, which came with a 15 lb kettlebell. (I had a 10 lb one, too, but hadn't used it.) The videos are redundant, but for a beginner, they're not bad at all. He's slow enough so that you can watch your form, and there's also the intro. video, which - honestly - I didn't look at. But I'm sure it's helpful. He builds up to the next level in a 6-week course. So I guess once you complete the cycle you stick with the highest level for maintenance.

The 10 lb one worked well. (Being new to this - but not new to weights and exercise in general - I hesitated starting off with the 15 lb kettlebell - esp. for arm work. They say beginners should go with 5 lb, but I think it may be too low for many.)

Oh - I purchased mine at Sports Authority in Rockville. They have a limited supply but they're much cheaper than ordering on line. Also, another PP on another thread told me that Blue Heron Wellness (off Colesville Rd. in SS - if you're anywhere nearby) has a class. The trainer actually has his own gig up Colesville Road, closer to Briggs Chaney area. So he's an expert and can probably work with beginners very well. I'm thinking about signing on for the Blue Heron class.

I also post this site quite a bit - http://www.collagevideo.com/ - b/c you can see actual clips.

Have fun experimenting!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

videos:
- loved the older Firm videos
- Jari Love is great for weights.
- I recently hopped on the kettlebell craze b/c it's an efficient workout. (There are a few videos out there to get you going. Ryan Shanahan has some good - although somewhat redundant - routines.)

And don't expect miracles.

Is Ryan Shanahan the guy who does the kettleworkz DVDs? Are those the ones that you use? Would you recommend them? I want to try kettlebells but some of the DVDs look a little intimidating. Plus, there are so many conflicting reviews on all of them, where people say that so-and-so's DVD demonstrates terrible form, which I guess with kettlebells could be really bad news.

Too bad cindy whitmarsh doesn't have a kettlebell dvd, huh bikini lady?

I caved and purchased his videos, which came with a 15 lb kettlebell. (I had a 10 lb one, too, but hadn't used it.) The videos are redundant, but for a beginner, they're not bad at all. He's slow enough so that you can watch your form, and there's also the intro. video, which - honestly - I didn't look at. But I'm sure it's helpful. He builds up to the next level in a 6-week course. So I guess once you complete the cycle you stick with the highest level for maintenance.

The 10 lb one worked well. (Being new to this - but not new to weights and exercise in general - I hesitated starting off with the 15 lb kettlebell - esp. for arm work. They say beginners should go with 5 lb, but I think it may be too low for many.)

Oh - I purchased mine at Sports Authority in Rockville. They have a limited supply but they're much cheaper than ordering on line. Also, another PP on another thread told me that Blue Heron Wellness (off Colesville Rd. in SS - if you're anywhere nearby) has a class. The trainer actually has his own gig up Colesville Road, closer to Briggs Chaney area. So he's an expert and can probably work with beginners very well. I'm thinking about signing on for the Blue Heron class.

I also post this site quite a bit - http://www.collagevideo.com/ - b/c you can see actual clips.

Have fun experimenting!

Wait, were you the person who originated that thread about kettlebells a few days ago? I'm the one who posted about the Blue Heron class! I didn't realize the instructor teaches elsewhere, although Blue Heron is much closer to my house so I wouldn't drive all the way up to Briggs Chaney. He did seem very knowledgeable and would be good with beginners. Thanks for the info about the kettleworkx at Sports Authority.

[Anonymous]

I'm the one! How funny!

this guy, right? Michael Belan
And here's his contact info: http://www.dragondoor.com/instructor/1135

But I got his site confused with another one. He may be a personal trainer of sorts - in addition to doing classes at Blue Heron.

Maybe I'll see you at a class!

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Anonymous wrote:

Wait, were you the person who originated that thread about kettlebells a few days ago? I'm the one who posted about the Blue Heron class! I didn't realize the instructor teaches elsewhere, although Blue Heron is much closer to my house so I wouldn't drive all the way up to Briggs Chaney. He did seem very knowledgeable and would be good with beginners. Thanks for the info about the kettleworkx at Sports Authority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the one! How funny!

this guy, right? Michael Belan
And here's his contact info: http://www.dragondoor.com/instructor/1135

But I got his site confused with another one. He may be a personal trainer of sorts - in addition to doing classes at Blue Heron.

Maybe I'll see you at a class!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Wait, were you the person who originated that thread about kettlebells a few days ago? I'm the one who posted about the Blue Heron class! I didn't realize the instructor teaches elsewhere, although Blue Heron is much closer to my house so I wouldn't drive all the way up to Briggs Chaney. He did seem very knowledgeable and would be good with beginners. Thanks for the info about the kettleworkx at Sports Authority.

Yeah, I will definitely think about signing up for the next session, whenever that starts. It's so hard to find classes that are at a convenient time for me, but 8:30 a.m. is perfect. It did seem like the type of class where you'd want to go for the full session, and not do drop-ins randomly, since you want to learn the proper form from the beginning. I'll be the one in the bikini. JK!

[Anonymous]

The idea, idiots, is too boost your metabolism as much as possible. Studies have shown that exercise alone does not burn that many calories, and the idea of an after-burn has been established as a myth in the NYT. You do not get a metabolism boost from exercise. You get the calorie burn during exercise, and it isn't very much. Your measly 4 miles may have burned 250 calories. I just did 5 miles and got 320, working at 85% of my maximum heartrate.

So you can burn some calories with exercise, though not nearly as many as you think. To boost metabolism, you can drink a lot of water, sleep 8 hours, eat small meals throughout the day, and take a supplement.

As for the runner's high: that's a definite benefit from exercise. It has nothing to do with weight loss, and I never suggested that you can get an endorphin high by taking a fat-burning supplement.

Wake up and smell the coffee girls.

[Anonymous]

The problem with rapid weight loss for a person who is not obese (the folks on BL are obese) is that they came with such a drastic cutback in food intake or an uptick in exercise and neither are sustainable. That's the beauty of a program like WW. I've lost 25 pounds in five months on WW and I'm not exercising that much (that's next) and I'm not depriving myself of my favorite foods. Reports about BL give me pause, too. The dehydration before weigh-in's, etc. Anyway all this sniping is silly. The key is to find what works for you and work it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem with rapid weight loss for a person who is not obese (the folks on BL are obese) is that they came with such a drastic cutback in food intake or an uptick in exercise and neither are sustainable. That's the beauty of a program like WW. I've lost 25 pounds in five months on WW and I'm not exercising that much (that's next) and I'm not depriving myself of my favorite foods. Reports about BL give me pause, too. The dehydration before weigh-in's, etc. Anyway all this sniping is silly. The key is to find what works for you and work it!

Here here! That's right. If taking supplements works for you, then so be it. What is driving me nuts is how the PP is calling us idiots for not buying into her philosophy. If Cindy Whitmarsh and Fucothin are what get you into your size 4 bikini, then more power to you. It will never make losing 4 pounds a week a healthy enterprise, however.