Is a public school A = private school A- (or B+)?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It depends mightily on the privates.

Sidwell, NCS, STA, etc graduate an average GPA around 3.5 with no weighting for honors or AP classes.
Most colleges know to take this into account. For instance, the unhooked Ivy kids (of which there
are a few each year) will get in (even in 2023) with a 3.8 or 3.9. There's no 4.7 needed like in public.




I mean that’s great and all but all of you private school snobs thinking every student in public school is getting straight As are clueless. There are plenty of 3.5s and below.


It's not snobbery to acknowledge and be concerned about grade inflation and how that affects college admissions. At least in this area, in many privates the highest possible grade is a 4.0 and difficult for even one student in each class to achieve. Compare that to the hundreds of students in the top third to half of each APS high school class who have a 4.0 and are ALL ranked 1st in their class on their transcripts! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1132533.page#25030755



More bullshit. They are not all ranked first. Fairfax county does not rank their students at all.


I specifically referred to Arlington Public Schools. Students with a 4.0 or higher are indeed ranked first in their classes in APS and comprise a third to a half of most classes. I have no experience with Fairfax County.


My kids are 4.0+ GPA Arlington public high school graduates. They did not have a class rank. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Anonymous
Research studies have found that grade inflation is highest at independent private high schools:

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/grade-inflation-is-greater-in-wealthier-schools-study-says/2017/08

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/prep-schools-grades/

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Research studies have found that grade inflation is highest at independent private high schools:

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/grade-inflation-is-greater-in-wealthier-schools-study-says/2017/08

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/prep-schools-grades/



This makes sense to me. People are paying good money for a product. I would think these people would be far less likely to shell out the extra money if good grades wasn’t part of the package
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It depends mightily on the privates.

Sidwell, NCS, STA, etc graduate an average GPA around 3.5 with no weighting for honors or AP classes.
Most colleges know to take this into account. For instance, the unhooked Ivy kids (of which there
are a few each year) will get in (even in 2023) with a 3.8 or 3.9. There's no 4.7 needed like in public.




I mean that’s great and all but all of you private school snobs thinking every student in public school is getting straight As are clueless. There are plenty of 3.5s and below.


It's not snobbery to acknowledge and be concerned about grade inflation and how that affects college admissions. At least in this area, in many privates the highest possible grade is a 4.0 and difficult for even one student in each class to achieve. Compare that to the hundreds of students in the top third to half of each APS high school class who have a 4.0 and are ALL ranked 1st in their class on their transcripts! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1132533.page#25030755



More bullshit. They are not all ranked first. Fairfax county does not rank their students at all.


I specifically referred to Arlington Public Schools. Students with a 4.0 or higher are indeed ranked first in their classes in APS and comprise a third to a half of most classes. I have no experience with Fairfax County.


My kids are 4.0+ GPA Arlington public high school graduates. They did not have a class rank. You don’t know what you’re talking about.


Have your seen a copy of your child's transcript sent to colleges? There definitely are rankings. This was discussed in this thread:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1132533.page
If your children haven''t yet applied to colleges, you may not be aware.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Research studies have found that grade inflation is highest at independent private high schools:

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/grade-inflation-is-greater-in-wealthier-schools-study-says/2017/08

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/prep-schools-grades/



These aren’t reliable studies. The first is from 2017 and is focused on suburban schools (not urban privates) and it compares grades with SAT scores which many students have not taken for 3 years. The second is from 2020 ans focused on one school as an example and issues with remote learning added in. There is no support that as a rule or even generally that grade inflation is highest in independent schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So true. Our private….B+ = A anywhere else

Anywhere else? Really? ANYWHERE? Lol.


You bitter and insecure public school parents gotta make yourselves less trollable. This was transparently just trolling to bait you. Which you all gobbled up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It depends mightily on the privates.

Sidwell, NCS, STA, etc graduate an average GPA around 3.5 with no weighting for honors or AP classes.
Most colleges know to take this into account. For instance, the unhooked Ivy kids (of which there
are a few each year) will get in (even in 2023) with a 3.8 or 3.9. There's no 4.7 needed like in public.




I mean that’s great and all but all of you private school snobs thinking every student in public school is getting straight As are clueless. There are plenty of 3.5s and below.


It's not snobbery to acknowledge and be concerned about grade inflation and how that affects college admissions. At least in this area, in many privates the highest possible grade is a 4.0 and difficult for even one student in each class to achieve. Compare that to the hundreds of students in the top third to half of each APS high school class who have a 4.0 and are ALL ranked 1st in their class on their transcripts! https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1132533.page#25030755



More bullshit. They are not all ranked first. Fairfax county does not rank their students at all.


I specifically referred to Arlington Public Schools. Students with a 4.0 or higher are indeed ranked first in their classes in APS and comprise a third to a half of most classes. I have no experience with Fairfax County.


My kids are 4.0+ GPA Arlington public high school graduates. They did not have a class rank. You don’t know what you’re talking about.


Have your seen a copy of your child's transcript sent to colleges? There definitely are rankings. This was discussed in this thread:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1132533.page
If your children haven''t yet applied to colleges, you may not be aware.


My kids are already in or out of college.
Anonymous
PP here. Yes they’re all recognized at graduation as “valedictorian” but no one is identified as No 1 on the transcript. There is NO class rank. To the extent that thread says otherwise, it’s wrong.
Anonymous
I always assumed grade inflation was worse at privates
Anonymous
same. parents who are paying 50k are making calls if their kid gets a B.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Eat me, private school parents.

Every school, public or private, includes a school profile with a student’s transcript that is sent to colleges. Among other things, it explains the grading policy and put it in context. For example, it will say “ grade distribution: top 10 percent - 4.2 or above; top 20 percent, 3.9 and above, etc.”

Nobody is comparing anybody’s GPA to the students in any other school but your own. Whether your school is public or private.


You’re very triggered by OP. You seem insecure about your circumstances.

Private schools engage in grade deflation, public grade inflation. Colleges are aware and take this in to consideration, generally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I always assumed grade inflation was worse at privates


Absolutely not the case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:same. parents who are paying 50k are making calls if their kid gets a B.


Lol!! Public school parents showing their ignorance in this thread.

Public school teacher, and my kids go to private. Private school kids have more academic rigor and no retakes. Private schools do not change grades for parents. I’m fact, most teachers really won’t even speak to parents because the privates are very focused on kids being main point of contact (college prep aspect of school). The parent is actually paying for a better quality education…not paying for good grades. Colleges are aware of the grade deflation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm in nyc where there are plenty of private schools that are pretty well known for grade inflation.

Here's an example of grade distribution:

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1662473043/packer/jqwg5zprhm5kuweelfde/2022-23SchoolProfileBrochureforCollegeOffice.pdf

I 100% do not assume public schools grade more leniently than private schools. Usually it's the opposite. Public schools kids can actually get a C or a D


I'm in a NYC suburb and totally agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:same. parents who are paying 50k are making calls if their kid gets a B.


Exactly. The more expensive the school, the more inclined the school would be to provide the best customer experience.
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