Demi Lovato ‘got tired’ of using ‘they/them’ pronouns: ‘It was absolutely exhausting’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She changed her pronouns back awhile ago. She found that it didn't fix anything so she moved on.

There are lots of people like her but they don't have everything they say and do gossiped about publicly.

“… “I face this every day. For example, in public toilets. Having to access the women’s bathroom, even though I don’t completely identify with it,” she explained...”

Yeah, she genuinely believed she is not like other girls, but the bathroom was a constant reminder that she is indeed. /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She changed her pronouns back awhile ago. She found that it didn't fix anything so she moved on.

There are lots of people like her but they don't have everything they say and do gossiped about publicly.

“… “I face this every day. For example, in public toilets. Having to access the women’s bathroom, even though I don’t completely identify with it,” she explained...”

Like…does she need to use a urinal? What an odd comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of how irritating it is that Dove Cameron from “Descendants” announced that she is bisexual, and is now co-opting the “queer” label while actually just dating guys like she always has.

What is the correct ratio of men vs women to date to qualify as legitimately bisexual?

You can date zero same gender people and still be bisexual. It's the attraction itself that makes you bisexual. Someone that 99.9% straight and .1% bisexual is still bisexual even if it's only one in one thousand. Most people are literally 100/0 or 0/100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of how irritating it is that Dove Cameron from “Descendants” announced that she is bisexual, and is now co-opting the “queer” label while actually just dating guys like she always has.

What is the correct ratio of men vs women to date to qualify as legitimately bisexual?

You can date zero same gender people and still be bisexual. It's the attraction itself that makes you bisexual. Someone that 99.9% straight and .1% bisexual is still bisexual even if it's only one in one thousand. Most people are literally 100/0 or 0/100.

I don't think this is true. I consider myself straight but out of 100 people I'm attracted to, it would be like 90/10. But I choose to only have relationships (or sex at all) with the opposite sex, men. I always knew I wanted to get married and have kids, and that made hetero relationships easier. I think if I'd ever met the right woman, I might have at least dated her, but I never did.

But I think it would be inauthentic to call myself bi because I've never had a same sex relationship.

I think there are a lot more people than you think who are attracted to at least one person of the same sex, even if they only ever have hetero relationships. I also think a decent number of gay people have the very occasional attraction to someone of the opposite sex. Especially when you considered der the broad range of gender expression.

[Anonymous]

My daughter has a friend like this. Switches pronouns constantly. I try to be respectful, but it is hard to keep up.

And I also feel weird with they as a singular. I’m not going to correct people or go on and on about it, but it doesn’t feel natural at all.

I’m quite liberal, and I’m fine with whatever pronoun someone wants, just don’t get upset if others forget or struggle to keep up. For most of us, it isn’t about disrespecting you or hating on you-it’s just a lot to remember especially if you change back and forth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why I hate companies that choose to add it to their email signatures.
It seems like things like this are quite fluid and I don't have time to memorize 200 different pronouns only to have to memorize them a week later when people change

Wouldn’t having it written down where you can see it alleviate the need to memorize?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I hate companies that choose to add it to their email signatures.
It seems like things like this are quite fluid and I don't have time to memorize 200 different pronouns only to have to memorize them a week later when people change

Wouldn’t having it written down where you can see it alleviate the need to memorize?

Oh of course, so you only have to bring around a reference list to interacts with others in the office. That’s so much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of how irritating it is that Dove Cameron from “Descendants” announced that she is bisexual, and is now co-opting the “queer” label while actually just dating guys like she always has.

What is the correct ratio of men vs women to date to qualify as legitimately bisexual?

You can date zero same gender people and still be bisexual. It's the attraction itself that makes you bisexual. Someone that 99.9% straight and .1% bisexual is still bisexual even if it's only one in one thousand. Most people are literally 100/0 or 0/100.

Are you really completely unaware of the Kinsey Scale?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a friend like this. Switches pronouns constantly. I try to be respectful, but it is hard to keep up.

And I also feel weird with they as a singular. I’m not going to correct people or go on and on about it, but it doesn’t feel natural at all.

I’m quite liberal, and I’m fine with whatever pronoun someone wants, just don’t get upset if others forget or struggle to keep up. For most of us, it isn’t about disrespecting you or hating on you-it’s just a lot to remember especially if you change back and forth.

A teenager being performative and dramatic? Never heard of such a thing…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of how irritating it is that Dove Cameron from “Descendants” announced that she is bisexual, and is now co-opting the “queer” label while actually just dating guys like she always has.

What is the correct ratio of men vs women to date to qualify as legitimately bisexual?

You can date zero same gender people and still be bisexual. It's the attraction itself that makes you bisexual. Someone that 99.9% straight and .1% bisexual is still bisexual even if it's only one in one thousand. Most people are literally 100/0 or 0/100.

I don’t know why, but for some reason I feel like with Demi Lovato, it’s pure showcasing and fiction. I think she wants attention or perhaps publicity, although I can’t fathom why this kind of publicity would in particular. Having said that I don’t know her and obviously I could be wrong. It may be that she’s an ally and she’s just trying to reduce the stigma. But I think it’s very weird to keep switching them up as often as she does, and talking about switching them up publicly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a friend like this. Switches pronouns constantly. I try to be respectful, but it is hard to keep up.

And I also feel weird with they as a singular. I’m not going to correct people or go on and on about it, but it doesn’t feel natural at all.

I’m quite liberal, and I’m fine with whatever pronoun someone wants, just don’t get upset if others forget or struggle to keep up. For most of us, it isn’t about disrespecting you or hating on you-it’s just a lot to remember especially if you change back and forth.

A teenager being performative and dramatic? Never heard of such a thing…

But rather than having the adults around them set boundaries, instead everyone exhausts themselves “trying to be respectful”. And the result is chaos and confusion.

[Anonymous]

I'm a they and would never try to be a they because it's too much emotional work so I just stay a her. I get it.

Also, for me, everybody in writing is a "they" unless it is specified. I don't know the gender of Sam or Rajeishgth so they are they.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a friend like this. Switches pronouns constantly. I try to be respectful, but it is hard to keep up.

And I also feel weird with they as a singular. I’m not going to correct people or go on and on about it, but it doesn’t feel natural at all.

I’m quite liberal, and I’m fine with whatever pronoun someone wants, just don’t get upset if others forget or struggle to keep up. For most of us, it isn’t about disrespecting you or hating on you-it’s just a lot to remember especially if you change back and forth.

A teenager being performative and dramatic? Never heard of such a thing…

I wasn’t trying to make it about the friend-just saying the switching pronouns is confusing.

Friend has some serious mental health issues, so there is a lot going on there-has been in in patient facilities for weeks several times.

I mostly feel for the family trying to get through this difficult, confusing time. My kid is difficult in other ways, but pronouns and gender are not part of them.

[Anonymous]

The "I don't judge!" posters are missing the point that this may be offensive to trans people who may feel they will be taken less seriously when a celeb is this fickle. I have a trans friend who is probably in that camp, though I haven't spoken to them about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The "I don't judge!" posters are missing the point that this may be offensive to trans people who may feel they will be taken less seriously when a celeb is this fickle. I have a trans friend who is probably in that camp, though I haven't spoken to them about it.

She’s not trans.