MD 2022-2023 MCAP Results: Only 14% proficient ELA, 13 proficient math at state-level; MCPS 13.5% ELA, 13.7% math
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Anonymous
It's a hard measurement problem. The kids who are struggling academically are far more likely to not pour their heart out into performing well on a 0-stakes test. Even more, if they were trying to be strategic, intentionally bombing the test might apply pressure on the government to increase school resources. |
Anonymous
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Aren't these levels like "proficient" arbitrary?
It's a new system so we can't see trends. It doesn't report meaningful info like what the students can and cannot do. MAP has its problems, but at least it gives a sense of what a score means. So if the median score in grade X is Y, I can look up what roughly that means as math/ELA skill. |
Anonymous
Oh my goodness!!!! Before you start being condescending it would help if you know what you are talking about. I interpret data for a living and this data, as presented is incomprehensible. I never suggested that the numbers needed to add up to 100 but if you had any clue about stats you’d see that they don’t MAKE SENSE. Perhaps there is another category between economically disadvantaged and and economically advantaged, but how is it possible that both economically disadvantaged and economically advantaged kids have proficiency rates that are HIGHER than the overall average? If that’s actually true then it’s great news for the economically disadvantaged group which would typically have a lower rate of achievement than the general population. There is zero chance that this is the case. If you click the link you’ll see that there are graphics included which fail to identify what the economic numbers refer to. I assume it’s a different metric than the 14.4 percent, but the reporter obviously doesn’t understand stats (just like you) and has conflated the two. Perhaps instead of the percentage provident it’s the number both proficient and approaching proficiency? It’s a terrible article that doesn’t make sense in multiple places. Unfortunately many reporters misstate statistics so this isn’t uncommon, but this is a particularly egregious example. (As is the fact that you got the data so wrong and were so sanctimonious in making your error). Clearly most of DCUM is willing to accept any numbers without questioning. |
Anonymous
How are there 15 Maryland school districts in Montgomery county? What does this mean? This reporter needs some training. |
Anonymous
Is it? This kind of underachievement as always there. Especially among the poor and the URMs. Asians are moving to HoCo, Urbana and Frederick. Of course mcps will plummet. mcps has launched a war against Asian Americans and magnet programs. These ere the factors that were hiding mcps's chronic underachievement before. Now it is visible to all. I am sure that Asians continue to do very well, which means - business as usual! |
Anonymous
What is performance level 1, 2, 3 and 4? |
Anonymous
There are districts other than MCPS in Maryland. 15 MD school districts did better than MCPS (score i13.5% in ELA) and 11 MD school districts did better than MCPS in math (score 13.7%). |
Anonymous
That quote was as clear as mud. |
Anonymous
It's not that I'm claiming the data is "false or made up," it's that the article is so poorly written and/or edited and shows an inattention to detail. I would like to see the actual data and see if the reporters have described it accurately. |
Anonymous
Yes I wish we could move to HoCo as well. MCPS places too much emphasis on equal outcome which is anti-merit. Those who care about academic performance here are almost regarded as a nuisance. Equal opportunity makes sense because any student can put in the effort to achieve good scores. MCPS’s emphasis on equal outcome is racist because certain races are given a boost while others of the wrong race are penalized. |
Anonymous
| Sounds like bad tests. Maybe we should just stop testing and focus on learning? |
Anonymous
It sounds like bad tests because the scores are low??? |
Anonymous
This. My kids come home and say the teachers tell them that the tests don't count toward their grades so none of the kids take it seriously. NONE. Even the hard-working, smart kids. They absolutely spend no mental energy on it. I would rather see them bring back exams that actually count toward their grades and I guarantee the results are going to be drastically different. |
Anonymous
And scores are low because kids don't take them seriously. Teachers tell them not to worry about the tests because they don't impact their grades so why should they care? |
Anonymous
Not sure if you posted this in support of MCPS, but I did rewatch the math plan update. As usual, MCPS talked around the problem, but board member Wolff got to the heart of it when she basically got them to admit that part of the reason for the poor math proficiency scores is because too many MCPS kids are being pushed into Algebra 1 early, which requires compacted math, which means they're not building and getting the appropriate amount of exposure and time to master those foundational skills. This means the problem is on two parties: 1. Parents: We need to stop treating 7th or 8th grade Algebra 1 as the benchmark. Many of our kids aren't ready for it. (Not sure why this is revolutionary, Algebra 1 in 9th grade was completely the norm back when I was in MCPS). Stop pushing your schools to put your kid in "accelerated math" programs unless the test scores demonstrate they have a genuine need at that level. It's great that you believe in your baby's potential, but there's no rush. 9th grade Algebra 1 is ON TRACK, not behind. 2. Admin: Stop cowtowing to pushy parents. Trust the teachers' evaluations and stop allowing any of your staff in the counseling office or team leads to parrot things like "Your child isn't college ready unless they take Algebra 1 by 8th grade." As usual, it looks like we have created our own problem and now we have to untangle ourselves from a web of our own making. |