Why aren't rescue dogs free?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

Nobody thinks a person is bad for being poor, but 1) no one has an automatic right to a dog, no matter how much money they have and 2) veterinary care is very expensive and if you can’t provide it, you’re not necessarily able to “save” a dog.


oh man, that sounds awfully judgmental.

WTF there is nothing judgmental about it. Why do many dogs end up back with rescues? Because the owners can't afford the vet bills.
When you adopt a child, you have to show that you're solvent to pay for it. You can't help an animal if you can't afford basic care and food. My gosh eople have taken being "inclusive" way too far and lost all common sense.


Calm down Sally. Unable or unwilling to pay 400 adoption fee up-front has nothing to do with what kind of life dog will live post adoption. It has nothing to do with being "inclusive" (or not). It has everything to do with the fact that everyone is capable of giving love regardless of their SES. Money doesn't buy everything you know?

Yes, Sally, because your dog you washed with the hose never had any medical problems. How fortunate for you.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.

I don’t think you understand what pp is saying. The people who want to use the dogs as bait aren’t posting anything. They’re replying to ads for free dogs. They pretend they want a pet, but they’re going to use the dog as bait, which is why they want a dog for free.
Anonymous
If you can’t invest $400 in a dog or cat, you do not have adequate means to care for that dog or cat when it is living with you.

The costs incurred by animal rescue organizations are very substantial in providing veterinary care to pets offered for adoption - those costs in many cases far exceed the charge they are requiring from adopters. The adoption fees allow them to recoup some costs and screen out adopters who may be well meaning but can’t or won’t make an appropriate financial commitment to pet stewardship.

I adopted a border collie mix dog from a rescue in late 2019. She came into rescue with three puppies so had to stay in foster care for several weeks while nursing and then weaning them until they could be adopted out at about 12 weeks of age. Then she went to be spayed and vaccinated and tested positive for heartworm, whereupon she stayed in rescue another four months while getting AHS protocol heartworm treatment.

After all that, they paid to transport her to me from Arkansas to Massachusetts. They have favorable arrangements with area veterinarians, but still they invested a couple thousand into treating my dog who I paid $450 to adopt.

I send them money every year as one of my annual charitable contributions. She’s the sweetest best dog and I am so grateful she wasn’t euthanized.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.

I don’t think you understand what pp is saying. The people who want to use the dogs as bait aren’t posting anything. They’re replying to ads for free dogs. They pretend they want a pet, but they’re going to use the dog as bait, which is why they want a dog for free.

IOW, use the dog for dog fighting
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.


I posted above, but I’m not that poster.

I don’t think people are on the hunt for bait dogs. If it happens, it is a fraction of a percentage. I don’t think it’s as common as people think or if people want make it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So many people complain that there are too many dogs in shelters and people shouldn't buy purebreds when there are perfectly good dogs who may be euthanized.

But then it costs $400 and a home visit to make sure you have a fence to be allowed to adopt.

Wouldn't those shelters be less filled if it's actually easier to adopt?

I don't get it.


Why aren't rescue dogs free??

Because rescue is an industry, not a mission.


Yep. After spending months trying to adopt a dog (with our nice big fenced yard, people home all day, previous pet ownership) we gave up and went to a breeder. I support rescue, but they need to stop pretending it's not a business.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.


I posted above, but I’m not that poster.

I don’t think people are on the hunt for bait dogs. If it happens, it is a fraction of a percentage. I don’t think it’s as common as people think or if people want make it.

Obviously, the vast majority of people who are interested in getting a dog have nothing to do with the world of dog fighting. Most people who would express interest in an ad for a free dog really do want a pet. The problem is that 100% of the tiny population of people who procure dogs for the purpose of dog fighting would like to get their hands on free dogs. If you’re giving your dog away to a stranger for free on CL, how to you separate the bad actors from the good ones?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people complain that there are too many dogs in shelters and people shouldn't buy purebreds when there are perfectly good dogs who may be euthanized.

But then it costs $400 and a home visit to make sure you have a fence to be allowed to adopt.

Wouldn't those shelters be less filled if it's actually easier to adopt?

I don't get it.


Why aren't rescue dogs free??

Because rescue is an industry, not a mission.


Yep. After spending months trying to adopt a dog (with our nice big fenced yard, people home all day, previous pet ownership) we gave up and went to a breeder. I support rescue, but they need to stop pretending it's not a business.

I'm going to assume you had specific qualifications (for many it's non-pit mix, maybe you want it to be "cute", no health issues like heart worm). Breeders can choose to have dogs that fit those qualifications. Rescues can't. They get what they get. Those dogs are in demand, and it may take a long time to get one because certain dogs get all the applications. On the flip side, people shopping at rescues get inpatient because their checklist can't be met in their time frame and then go to a breeder. That's fine, but it's unfair to then criticize the rescues as being a business because they can't meet your needs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.


I posted above, but I’m not that poster.

I don’t think people are on the hunt for bait dogs. If it happens, it is a fraction of a percentage. I don’t think it’s as common as people think or if people want make it.

Obviously, the vast majority of people who are interested in getting a dog have nothing to do with the world of dog fighting. Most people who would express interest in an ad for a free dog really do want a pet. The problem is that 100% of the tiny population of people who procure dogs for the purpose of dog fighting would like to get their hands on free dogs. If you’re giving your dog away to a stranger for free on CL, how to you separate the bad actors from the good ones?


Are you real? So, people who can pay are "good" actors and people who can't are bad apples?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.


I posted above, but I’m not that poster.

I don’t think people are on the hunt for bait dogs. If it happens, it is a fraction of a percentage. I don’t think it’s as common as people think or if people want make it.

And your source?
Posting dogs on Craigslist for free is a bad idea for this, and many other reasons. An adoption fee ensures people have an investment in the dog and give it a good try with the animal. If you can't afford it, you aren't ready for the financial responsibility of dog ownership.

As someone who does rescue work, I don't even know why I open up these threads. Please volunteer if you can't understand why there is an adoption fee.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.


I posted above, but I’m not that poster.

I don’t think people are on the hunt for bait dogs. If it happens, it is a fraction of a percentage. I don’t think it’s as common as people think or if people want make it.

Obviously, the vast majority of people who are interested in getting a dog have nothing to do with the world of dog fighting. Most people who would express interest in an ad for a free dog really do want a pet. The problem is that 100% of the tiny population of people who procure dogs for the purpose of dog fighting would like to get their hands on free dogs. If you’re giving your dog away to a stranger for free on CL, how to you separate the bad actors from the good ones?


Are you real? So, people who can pay are "good" actors and people who can't are bad apples?

New pp, but it's one way to separate them. They will go to another free animal instead. Another is home visits, which are also always controversial here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:8:56 and 8:57 - poor folks are not all bad and even people not as wealthy as you, have the right to save poor dogs.

8:56 posted it can prevent abuse. This is absolutely 100% true. You never post a free dog on Craigslist. They can be used for bait dogs. I'm sorry that infringes on your "right to save poor dogs".


I am on CL daily. I have never seen a bait dog post. Can you post one? No eye rolls necessary.

GTFO. They don't post them advertised as bait dogs. Are you serious?


You are the one who made the claim. I am asking for a proof. Yes, I am indeed serious.


I posted above, but I’m not that poster.

I don’t think people are on the hunt for bait dogs. If it happens, it is a fraction of a percentage. I don’t think it’s as common as people think or if people want make it.

Obviously, the vast majority of people who are interested in getting a dog have nothing to do with the world of dog fighting. Most people who would express interest in an ad for a free dog really do want a pet. The problem is that 100% of the tiny population of people who procure dogs for the purpose of dog fighting would like to get their hands on free dogs. If you’re giving your dog away to a stranger for free on CL, how to you separate the bad actors from the good ones?


Are you real? So, people who can pay are "good" actors and people who can't are bad apples?

Certainly not. In fact, it’s the opposite: bad actors WILL NOT pay because it’s a business decision for them and not about loving the dog.

You have a real chip on your shoulder, but making sure a potential adopter has some skin in the game weeds out people who have no intention of sinking any money into an animal because it’s not going to be their pet.
Anonymous
I paid $50 on adoption fees, where is there a $400 adoption fee?

Also, I've noticed that some adoption events waive the fees. Petco does this a lot by sponsoring the event and paying the fee.

Are you doing your proper research?
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