Pre-war suburbs are built different. I’ve spent hours upon hours discovering new areas around my home on foot. There are so many trails nearby and beautiful older neighborhoods with sidewalks. I did used to live in a farther out burb on a cul de sac and couldn’t go more than half a mile without hitting a major commuter road. And I lived in a neighborhood full of cul de sacs. It was terrible. If I were ever to move father out again I’d go somewhere that I could at least walk out my door into nature. For now I prefer coffee shops. |
PP. I have 2.5 bedrooms - the 0.5 is the dining room that we closed off. Read my comment again - very few families in European cities have more than 2 bedrooms, and they manage fine. We just don't buy and store tons of crap. |
People that are completely dependent on public transportation are generally poor & fat. |
PP. I have a couple of cousins in Bala Cynwyd - if you are somewhere like that, yes, it could work. Someone already pointed out that the older suburbs, small towns really, built around the train stations are different. |
I’m not in Ashburn, but am in Reston and maybe put 8k miles on my car a year and that’s all kids travel sports. I walk and bike everywhere. Walked up to RTC this morning for breakfast. I done even need to shower or changed when I bike to work because it’s so close. I only bike because I’m always running late and rarely have time to walk. |
I live in Chicago and walk a ton, but am skeptical of the brits posting they walk 4+miles each way to work. Who has time for an hour + walking commute when it could 8min instead? Assuming they have families they need to get home to, dinner to make etc. |
That’s because in Florida you would be a ball of sweat 9 months of the year walking across the street. |
As a Brit I’m skeptical too. Plus it is not making us any skinnier all these supposed miles. The UK is getting fatter by the day. Maybe they mean 4k, but nobody there is walking 4 miles. If they don’t have a car (which is uncommon outside of London) then they are taking public transport. |
“ People in cities are generally much more fit because of all the walking/stairs they do. ”
People in cities are not morally superior due to walking more. It’s just the option that makes the most sense in that environment- parking is terrible in cities since it’s hard to find or very expensive. It’s not the same in the burbs which is a big part of why people there drive more. |
Disagree. I am sure the average person walks significantly more in the UK. Car ownership is 25 percent lower. Public transport is much better. Walking to the bus or train station can be a significant amount compared to waddling down to the garage. There is nowhere in the UK that is as unfriendly to pedestrians as most of the US. And partly as a consequence, the US obesity rate is 42 percent vs 28 percent in the UK. |
+1 haha well stated. Same situation here. Also, several of my spouse's friends and family live in the 'burbs, and so we have to drive into town. Most of spouse's friends moved to the burbs after having kids. Same for us. |
+1. I was going to say this. I love walking, but when I was in Florida for the summer, I absolutely could not walk for more than 10 minutes in daytime because of the heat. |
Exactly, and then you would be sweaty by the time you get to work. |
That's a pretty idealized view of Europe. I hate to break it to you, but suburbs are growing pretty fast in Europe |
I used to walk a similar commute home when the weather was beautiful, I was single, and didn't have any plans. It was really relaxing. Now, I would never waste that much time with kids waiting for me to get home |