Piney Branch Elementary—do you like it?

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

One of my kid's friends wrote 7, but mine only managed to write 4. They both got A's. I guess some kids are just overachievers.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

I’m pretty sure the PP was talking about the autobiography and she’s correct. 10 very specific chapters and dozens of pages, topped with photos and illustrations. Agree that it wasn’t possible to complete in 3-4 pages.

There were also several fiction projects. Which one are you referring to? I don’t recall the fiction projects being comparable in length.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

A+???? I doubt you were even in this class. First there is no such thing as an A+ and second, this particular teacher gives multiple grades per assignment for very specific requirements. Maybe your child got 6 As, but she didn’t get a single A+.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

I’m pretty sure the PP was talking about the autobiography and she’s correct. 10 very specific chapters and dozens of pages, topped with photos and illustrations. Agree that it wasn’t possible to complete in 3-4 pages.

There were also several fiction projects. Which one are you referring to? I don’t recall the fiction projects being comparable in length.

The longest thing my kid wrote for her was at best 5 pages but mostly 1-2 and still managed to get straight A's in her class.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

A+???? I doubt you were even in this class. First there is no such thing as an A+ and second, this particular teacher gives multiple grades per assignment for very specific requirements. Maybe your child got 6 As, but she didn’t get a single A+.

She literally wrote A+ in the comments.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

I’m pretty sure the PP was talking about the autobiography and she’s correct. 10 very specific chapters and dozens of pages, topped with photos and illustrations. Agree that it wasn’t possible to complete in 3-4 pages.

There were also several fiction projects. Which one are you referring to? I don’t recall the fiction projects being comparable in length.

No she literally said "fiction" which is very different than an autobiography.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

I’m pretty sure the PP was talking about the autobiography and she’s correct. 10 very specific chapters and dozens of pages, topped with photos and illustrations. Agree that it wasn’t possible to complete in 3-4 pages.

There were also several fiction projects. Which one are you referring to? I don’t recall the fiction projects being comparable in length.

No she literally said "fiction" which is very different than an autobiography.

It's funny how people feel so strongly about the teacher. the 4th grade teacher is still one of my kid's favorite teachers ever. We thought the autobiography was a great assignment - and the year my kid was in it the teacher printed them out and spiral bound them as mementos. Also the Greek Myth assignment was favorite for my kid. Seriously - my kid loved her and still talks about how much the class was one of the most best classes ever.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

I’m pretty sure the PP was talking about the autobiography and she’s correct. 10 very specific chapters and dozens of pages, topped with photos and illustrations. Agree that it wasn’t possible to complete in 3-4 pages.

There were also several fiction projects. Which one are you referring to? I don’t recall the fiction projects being comparable in length.

No she literally said "fiction" which is very different than an autobiography.

It's funny how people feel so strongly about the teacher. the 4th grade teacher is still one of my kid's favorite teachers ever. We thought the autobiography was a great assignment - and the year my kid was in it the teacher printed them out and spiral bound them as mementos. Also the Greek Myth assignment was favorite for my kid. Seriously - my kid loved her and still talks about how much the class was one of the most best classes ever.

Yes! Our kid pulled out the autobiography earlier this year and was reading through it. It was such a cool snapshot of life. Our kid is in 9th now, but still talks about that CES class.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

I’m pretty sure the PP was talking about the autobiography and she’s correct. 10 very specific chapters and dozens of pages, topped with photos and illustrations. Agree that it wasn’t possible to complete in 3-4 pages.

There were also several fiction projects. Which one are you referring to? I don’t recall the fiction projects being comparable in length.

No she literally said "fiction" which is very different than an autobiography.

It's funny how people feel so strongly about the teacher. the 4th grade teacher is still one of my kid's favorite teachers ever. We thought the autobiography was a great assignment - and the year my kid was in it the teacher printed them out and spiral bound them as mementos. Also the Greek Myth assignment was favorite for my kid. Seriously - my kid loved her and still talks about how much the class was one of the most best classes ever.

Yes! Our kid pulled out the autobiography earlier this year and was reading through it. It was such a cool snapshot of life. Our kid is in 9th now, but still talks about that CES class.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by problem teachers in RLA? Is RLA reading/language arts?

I think PP means the 4th grade CES teacher who did her best to destroy any love of learning and joy for life in her students.

She was a demanding teacher that had high expectations of the students which isn't opular. However, my children learned a lot in her class .

High expectations in this case = excessive volume, quantity over quality

I know she didn't hand out A's like candy so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected 9 and 10 year olds to write 25-40 pages typewritten ten chapter + assignments (longer than anything they produce in high school) so a lot of parents were upset.

I know she expected kids to write ludicrously detailed and highly specific book reports every week but write them on a t-shirt they designed or on a dodecahedron they built or on a cereal box or some other ridiculous time consuming build at home design so a lot of parents were upset.

I could go on.

Is she still there?

No she was promoted and they're exaggerating. My kid did once write a 5 page paper for her but most were 1-2 pages.

I’m absolutely not exaggerating. 25-40 printed pages, for one ten chapter assignment, many were 10,000 words or more. Other assignments were often 5-10 pages. Virtually nothing was 1-2 pages and the volume was relentless. Fortunately she is no longer there because she destroyed kids.

I absolutely respect your child's decision to write a 25 to 40-page paper. That's really impressive for a 9 or 10-year-old. I had two of my kids go through that class too. Both only wrote 1-2 page papers since it was sufficient for the county's CES curriculum which is standardized. Once they may have gotten to 5, but that was their choice. They got by with straight A's.

My kid was at the lower end of that range (she “only” wrote about 25 pages!). Many others wrote much longer papers and it WAS required because the rubric detailed 10 chapters with specific requirements for each chapter that were impossible to meet without at least a few pages per chapter. There was no way to get around it without producing an excessively long assignment and the entire class to my knowledge did. And this assignment wasn’t even an outlier. I’m sure your kid produced the same but perhaps you’ve blocked it from your mind?! There were also fiction writing assignments that for some were close to rivaling this one in length, but those were at least somewhat due to the kids own motivation and desire to write novels, not the requirements of the assignment.

I remember the fiction writing assignment. My kid wrote 2 pages for that one. I remember helping them with it even.

Just for laughs, I found this in their google drive. It's all of 782 words and was one of their longer pieces. Also, they got an A+.

The point is just because your child choose to write 12345 pages it wasn't required and wouldn't have impacted their grade.

I even asked her about it at the time and she assured me quality mattered more than quantity.

I’m pretty sure the PP was talking about the autobiography and she’s correct. 10 very specific chapters and dozens of pages, topped with photos and illustrations. Agree that it wasn’t possible to complete in 3-4 pages.

There were also several fiction projects. Which one are you referring to? I don’t recall the fiction projects being comparable in length.

No she literally said "fiction" which is very different than an autobiography.

No I didn’t. PP is right. The ten chapter assignment was the autobiography.