Alice Deal Middle School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Set up schools within schools for students who constantly violate school norms with higher adult-to-student ratios, trauma-based services, and restricted access to the rest of the school. Pay teachers who work in these classrooms higher salaries.

While this is a very common sense solution, it would be against federal law. Putting students in more restrictive environments (like special classrooms) require a great deal of meetings, evaluations, diagnosis, more meetings with families/advocates, and then (maybe) you can get a student moved from general education classrooms. Schools are mandated to provide students with the least restrictive environment (mainstreamed with everyone else) or go through the process outlined in IDEA.

As with most things, there are very simple solutions...until you are put in the situation of having to lead/implement them and confronted by the realities of law, policy, and resources.

Nah. DCPS can hire more lawyers and do the process right. It takes an effort but it’s not impossible. And the kids without IEPs can absolutely face disciplinary transfers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition, at Deal there are kids who skip every class every day. How do you keep them in their “school within a school?”

They get placed in the alternative school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, at Deal there are kids who skip every class every day. How do you keep them in their “school within a school?”

They get placed in the alternative school.

Which doesn’t currently exist in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Set up schools within schools for students who constantly violate school norms with higher adult-to-student ratios, trauma-based services, and restricted access to the rest of the school. Pay teachers who work in these classrooms higher salaries.

While this is a very common sense solution, it would be against federal law. Putting students in more restrictive environments (like special classrooms) require a great deal of meetings, evaluations, diagnosis, more meetings with families/advocates, and then (maybe) you can get a student moved from general education classrooms. Schools are mandated to provide students with the least restrictive environment (mainstreamed with everyone else) or go through the process outlined in IDEA.

As with most things, there are very simple solutions...until you are put in the situation of having to lead/implement them and confronted by the realities of law, policy, and resources.

Are you assuming the students who are disruptive - out of control, vaping, skipping class, etc. - have special needs or a disability such that classroom placement for such students falls under IDEA? Why would you assume that?

[Anonymous]

Sounds like the folks at Deal want to pull a Hardy. If parents can pull this and get rid of principals just have parents run the school. Let’s see how much better they do.

PS: Parents couldn’t handle kids in a virtual setting let alone in a physical one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the folks at Deal want to pull a Hardy. If parents can pull this and get rid of principals just have parents run the school. Let’s see how much better they do.

PS: Parents couldn’t handle kids in a virtual setting let alone in a physical one.

I just want my kid to not have to watch drug deals during gym.

[Anonymous]

As someone who works in DCPS, I often find that there are so many inaccuracies in this forum. I’ve yet to discover if it’s the result of misinformation, bias, or something much more calculated.

There is no way a school leader would allow a drug deal to take place in their school and not do something about it. Especially if it were known. Senior leaders would not allow school leaders to remain at schools if this were a known problem. No school wakes up in the morning and says, I think I want to run a school in the ground. Bring the principal the receipts, (so that he/she is not accusing someone’s child of sellimg drugs based upon ancetodotes), and then allow the person to do something about it.

Parents should really visit schools, ask to shadow or volunteer so that they can see for themselves how safe our schools are.

I read inaccuracies about my school’s enrollment, class sizes, class offerings, etc all the time here. It's just blatantly wrong.

I also understand that parents create these narratives in part based upon their perception of the school’s leader and the demographics of the school.

The same for Mayor Bowser. So many people complain as if they can run a city as complex and diverse as this better than she can. Her perceived incompetence is rooted in one thing and one thing only.

If parents can run schools better than school leaders, you sure did an awful job with just a handful of kids, in a virtual setting.

Give leaders the feedback, offer your support, and give them the opportunity to fix it before you assume their appearance makes them incompetent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who works in DCPS, I often find that there are so many inaccuracies in this forum. I’ve yet to discover if it’s the result of misinformation, bias, or something much more calculated.

There is no way a school leader would allow a drug deal to take place in their school and not do something about it. Especially if it were known. Senior leaders would not allow school leaders to remain at schools if this were a known problem. No school wakes up in the morning and says, I think I want to run a school in the ground. Bring the principal the receipts, (so that he/she is not accusing someone’s child of sellimg drugs based upon ancetodotes), and then allow the person to do something about it.

Parents should really visit schools, ask to shadow or volunteer so that they can see for themselves how safe our schools are.

I read inaccuracies about my school’s enrollment, class sizes, class offerings, etc all the time here. It's just blatantly wrong.

I also understand that parents create these narratives in part based upon their perception of the school’s leader and the demographics of the school.

The same for Mayor Bowser. So many people complain as if they can run a city as complex and diverse as this better than she can. Her perceived incompetence is rooted in one thing and one thing only.

If parents can run schools better than school leaders, you sure did an awful job with just a handful of kids, in a virtual setting.

Give leaders the feedback, offer your support, and give them the opportunity to fix it before you assume their appearance makes them incompetent.

That's BS. Your accusing people of racism without foundation. Any politician is going to have people who mildly or vehemently disagree with him/her. A 50% approval rating for a President is pretty good.

And criticizing parents is not going to help quell their critiques of public schools.

[Anonymous]

I love Deal and Ms Neale. The assistant principals are fabulous too. My kids have had a great experience at Deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who works in DCPS, I often find that there are so many inaccuracies in this forum. I’ve yet to discover if it’s the result of misinformation, bias, or something much more calculated.

There is no way a school leader would allow a drug deal to take place in their school and not do something about it. Especially if it were known. Senior leaders would not allow school leaders to remain at schools if this were a known problem. No school wakes up in the morning and says, I think I want to run a school in the ground. Bring the principal the receipts, (so that he/she is not accusing someone’s child of sellimg drugs based upon ancetodotes), and then allow the person to do something about it.

Parents should really visit schools, ask to shadow or volunteer so that they can see for themselves how safe our schools are.

I read inaccuracies about my school’s enrollment, class sizes, class offerings, etc all the time here. It's just blatantly wrong.

I also understand that parents create these narratives in part based upon their perception of the school’s leader and the demographics of the school.

The same for Mayor Bowser. So many people complain as if they can run a city as complex and diverse as this better than she can. Her perceived incompetence is rooted in one thing and one thing only.

If parents can run schools better than school leaders, you sure did an awful job with just a handful of kids, in a virtual setting.

Give leaders the feedback, offer your support, and give them the opportunity to fix it before you assume their appearance makes them incompetent.

I would love to visit the school and volunteer. I show up for every opportunity. I would do it regularly if it were allowed.

I don’t know how the teachers feel about it but the administration gives the distinct impression volunteers are not welcome.

[Anonymous]

There’s plenty of foundation to support the claim, (thread upon thread on this very forum). Accusing a school leader of turning a blind eye to violence or crime is BS.

Many of these same schools, (Deal and Hardy), had similar challenges as the ones they’re currently experiencing, (if not worse), but because they have different leaders all of a sudden the schools are “going down”.

Stop it. Everyone knows what this game is about. As soon as the leadership changes back to the desired norm, the problems will suddenly all be solved though nothing would have changed at all except for the school’s leader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who works in DCPS, I often find that there are so many inaccuracies in this forum. I’ve yet to discover if it’s the result of misinformation, bias, or something much more calculated.

There is no way a school leader would allow a drug deal to take place in their school and not do something about it. Especially if it were known. Senior leaders would not allow school leaders to remain at schools if this were a known problem. No school wakes up in the morning and says, I think I want to run a school in the ground. Bring the principal the receipts, (so that he/she is not accusing someone’s child of sellimg drugs based upon ancetodotes), and then allow the person to do something about it.

Parents should really visit schools, ask to shadow or volunteer so that they can see for themselves how safe our schools are.

I read inaccuracies about my school’s enrollment, class sizes, class offerings, etc all the time here. It's just blatantly wrong.

I also understand that parents create these narratives in part based upon their perception of the school’s leader and the demographics of the school.

The same for Mayor Bowser. So many people complain as if they can run a city as complex and diverse as this better than she can. Her perceived incompetence is rooted in one thing and one thing only.

If parents can run schools better than school leaders, you sure did an awful job with just a handful of kids, in a virtual setting.

Give leaders the feedback, offer your support, and give them the opportunity to fix it before you assume their appearance makes them incompetent.

Ask any of your 7th or 8th graders if pot is a problem.

[Anonymous]

No doubt running a large public middle school or a city is difficult. So that means the leaders can’t be criticized? That’s a pretty ridiculous position.

[Anonymous]

Sure leaders can be criticized, (it comes with the territory). To be clear, it isn’t the criticism that’s the problem. Asking that a leader, (especially a competent one), step down or step aside based upon bogus claims is an issue.

Let’s not deflect here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure leaders can be criticized, (it comes with the territory). To be clear, it isn’t the criticism that’s the problem. Asking that a leader, (especially a competent one), step down or step aside based upon bogus claims is an issue.

Let’s not deflect here.

What competent leader was asked to step down?

(You are entitled to your opinion, but so is everyone else. And a lot of people obviously had a different opinion than yours based in their personal experiences. You are making stuff up to say that the claims were "bogus.")