Neighbor in apartment violating dog breed restriction and leash laws with pit bull

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Statistics show that the highest dog attacks by breed are from Pit Bulls. Their natural aggression and high provocation rate from humans cause Pit Bulls to have the highest attack rate in the United States when compared to other dog breeds.

Op, report right away to management. You don’t want to become another victim.

The ongoing issue i n that regard is that alarmists tend to overdramatize a bit. Not all mixes that look like labs, etc. are "pit".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today I confronted my neighbors who have a pit bull in the apartment complex where there are breed restrictions. In my building, there are at least three different renters in three different units with breeds that are restricted: pit bulls and German shepherds.

I have a small toy breed dog.

This neighbor leaves the dog unleashed and unattended on their balcony. I have started avoiding walking by their balcony. The dog will stare at me and my dog when we walk by. Sometimes the dog will jump up and put her paws on the railing, standing. She's on sidewalk level, and she can easily jump over.

Because of painters, I had to park my car near their apartment. I was afraid.

Today, I was walking out of the mail room three buildings away, and the pit bull was unleashed and jaunting toward me. The young couple was walking behind the dog with their smaller dog on a leash.

I wasn't afraid, but I was startled. I was very polite. But, I told them, "Your dog frightens me. I'm afraid of your dog." They are a young couple who speak English as a second language. The woman said her dog is very nice. I asked how old is the dog, is the dog really old and not able to jump? Because I see the dog sitting outside without a leash. She said the dog is only 1 year old.

Just a few feet away from where the pit bull was walking off leash, is a children's playground, with small children playing.

Everyone thinks their dog is okay and will not hurt anyone. However, I can no longer abide by people who are flagrantly walking around with the pit bull not even on a leash. I think it's cruel to have a dog that size in a small apartment to begin with.

What do I do? Should I write a formal email/letter to the management? Should I go to the management and speak with them? I'm a woman in my early 50s. I don't have small children. How can I possibly be the only person who complains about this issue?

Issue 1: Breed restriction violations.
Issue 2: Leash law violations.

Are you sure that the German Shepherd (GSD) isn't a service dog?
The Pit definitely wouldn't be a service dog, but the GSD may be.

Service dogs are always allowed to live in housing that otherwise have pet-free policies or breed restrictions, because as service dogs, they go through such extensive & intensive training to become service dog certified.

My GSD is a service dog, but you'd know it as soon as you saw him, as he doesn't act or react like a pet dog would (although, in our home, he's our lovable & loving PET, once he walks out those front doors, he knows he's working & on the clock, so no saying hi to other dogs, no sniffing the grass for an hour, no distractions, period).

Sadly, all your neighbor would have to do is tell the landlord that their GSD is in actuality a service animal, and your landlord would NOT be allowed to ask what their disability is that requires a service dog, nor is the landlord allowed to ask for proof of certification -- it's against ADA laws, and ADA laws are VERY strict.
As such, people will always look to take advantage of them.

So, if your neighbor with the GSD says that it's a service dog (even if it's totally obvious to you that the dog is untrained & undisciplinled, so not really a service dog) your landlord is NEVER allowed to ask for proof or certification, nor what the nature of the disability is... sorry.

Unfortuantely, this could be true of almost any dog.

[Anonymous]

My daughter does admin for a local apartment. One of the things she does is file all of the paperwork submitted by new renters and then resolve discrepancies between what was entered online and what was delivered hard copy by the prospective tenant. For example, a prospective tenant might say that have one vehicle which will need parking and then request two parking spots. So she will update the online information with the additional car information.

To the topic she has said many times that only people without pets are worried about dog breed restrictions, because people with dog breeds that fall outside of the apartment guidelines simply get paperwork and have their pet Pitbull declared an emotional support animal. Once the paperwork has been filed, that apartment WILL NOT contest the designation as an emotional support animal and will NOT contact the signatory veterinarian. They simply file the paperwork which their insurance company has access to and if there were ever an issue, it would be considered an insurance issue.

[Anonymous]

You contact management and state you will be in touch with the management company’s liability insurer. That is what gets management’s attention.

The breed and leash rules are very likely a requirement by the management’s liability insurance provider to extend coverage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.

Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.

Pit Bulls do NOT have the ability to lock their jaws... how ridiculous.

They have the exact same head and mandible as every other dog in the world.
So believing misinformation meant to scare you

[Anonymous]

Is this in Alexandria?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.

Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.

Dogs descend from wolves. They all have killer instincts!

Omg. You have got to stop being so gullible.

You're saying that ALL dogs must be killers them, right?

Dogs were domesticated by accident, when wolves began trailing ancient hunter-gatherers to snack on their garbage... that's from the Paleolithic Era (but uniformed people call hunter-gatherers CAVEMEN).

Docile wolves may have been slipped extra food scraps, the theory goes, so they survived better, and passed on their DOCILE genes.

Eventually, these friendly wolves evolved into dogs... 40,000 years ago.

Guess what??
Men routinely murdered each other 40,000 years ago, am I to believe that YOU'RE not docile because of that??

Have you never heard of adaptation & evolution?

Stop drinking the kool-aid.

[Anonymous]

Pits raised with good care are lovely family dogs.

Pits raised in neglectful situations are not, nor or other dogs for that matter. My family had pitbulls and they were fantastic pets around kids, when adopted as puppies.

Pits do not have locking jaws, that is a myth (look it up).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pits raised with good care are lovely family dogs.

Pits raised in neglectful situations are not, nor or other dogs for that matter. My family had pitbulls and they were fantastic pets around kids, when adopted as puppies.

Pits do not have locking jaws, that is a myth (look it up).

+1
When I was a kid, my classmate's younger sister got bitten in the face by a dog. It was a LAB. Dogs are only as good as their owners. And it's absolute nonsense that pits have locking jaws or are any more unpredictable than other breeds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today I confronted my neighbors who have a pit bull in the apartment complex where there are breed restrictions. In my building, there are at least three different renters in three different units with breeds that are restricted: pit bulls and German shepherds.

I have a small toy breed dog.

This neighbor leaves the dog unleashed and unattended on their balcony. I have started avoiding walking by their balcony. The dog will stare at me and my dog when we walk by. Sometimes the dog will jump up and put her paws on the railing, standing. She's on sidewalk level, and she can easily jump over.

Because of painters, I had to park my car near their apartment. I was afraid.

Today, I was walking out of the mail room three buildings away, and the pit bull was unleashed and jaunting toward me. The young couple was walking behind the dog with their smaller dog on a leash.

I wasn't afraid, but I was startled. I was very polite. But, I told them, "Your dog frightens me. I'm afraid of your dog." They are a young couple who speak English as a second language. The woman said her dog is very nice. I asked how old is the dog, is the dog really old and not able to jump? Because I see the dog sitting outside without a leash. She said the dog is only 1 year old.

Just a few feet away from where the pit bull was walking off leash, is a children's playground, with small children playing.

Everyone thinks their dog is okay and will not hurt anyone. However, I can no longer abide by people who are flagrantly walking around with the pit bull not even on a leash. I think it's cruel to have a dog that size in a small apartment to begin with.

What do I do? Should I write a formal email/letter to the management? Should I go to the management and speak with them? I'm a woman in my early 50s. I don't have small children. How can I possibly be the only person who complains about this issue?

Issue 1: Breed restriction violations.
Issue 2: Leash law violations.

Are you sure that the German Shepherd (GSD) isn't a service dog?
The Pit definitely wouldn't be a service dog, but the GSD may be.

Service dogs are always allowed to live in housing that otherwise have pet-free policies or breed restrictions, because as service dogs, they go through such extensive & intensive training to become service dog certified.

My GSD is a service dog, but you'd know it as soon as you saw him, as he doesn't act or react like a pet dog would (although, in our home, he's our lovable & loving PET, once he walks out those front doors, he knows he's working & on the clock, so no saying hi to other dogs, no sniffing the grass for an hour, no distractions, period).

Sadly, all your neighbor would have to do is tell the landlord that their GSD is in actuality a service animal, and your landlord would NOT be allowed to ask what their disability is that requires a service dog, nor is the landlord allowed to ask for proof of certification -- it's against ADA laws, and ADA laws are VERY strict.
As such, people will always look to take advantage of them.

So, if your neighbor with the GSD says that it's a service dog (even if it's totally obvious to you that the dog is untrained & undisciplinled, so not really a service dog) your landlord is NEVER allowed to ask for proof or certification, nor what the nature of the disability is... sorry.

Unfortuantely, this could be true of almost any dog.

That's very true -- but only certain breeds are trained as registered service dogs... and Pit's aren't one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pits raised with good care are lovely family dogs.

Pits raised in neglectful situations are not, nor or other dogs for that matter. My family had pitbulls and they were fantastic pets around kids, when adopted as puppies.

Pits do not have locking jaws, that is a myth (look it up).

Well, according to one pp, you're low class trash and too dumb to function for having them, lol.

That person is cuckoo.

[Anonymous]

If these breeds are not allowed in the building, and you know these dogs are such breeds, then obviously you can complain formally to the management.

But honestly, the dog you describe sounds perfectly sociable, so personally, I wouldn't be officious just because I can be. The dogs who attack are the ones who are not socialized from a young age, and the ones who are fearful. Nothing you describe suggests the least little hint that this is an unsocial, fearful dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter does admin for a local apartment. One of the things she does is file all of the paperwork submitted by new renters and then resolve discrepancies between what was entered online and what was delivered hard copy by the prospective tenant. For example, a prospective tenant might say that have one vehicle which will need parking and then request two parking spots. So she will update the online information with the additional car information.

To the topic she has said many times that only people without pets are worried about dog breed restrictions, because people with dog breeds that fall outside of the apartment guidelines simply get paperwork and have their pet Pitbull declared an emotional support animal. Once the paperwork has been filed, that apartment WILL NOT contest the designation as an emotional support animal and will NOT contact the signatory veterinarian. They simply file the paperwork which their insurance company has access to and if there were ever an issue, it would be considered an insurance issue.

And does your daughter or the company she works for know the difference between emotional support and therapy dogs? Because many companies have now banned emotional support animals from their premises. It's a bogus designation, and everyone knows it. Therapy dogs are selected for their intelligence and docility, go through intensive training for years and are truly safe.

This is not to say that I would complain about this apparently docile pitt. I wouldn't. But FYI...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ima going to guess that OP has done a terrible job training their dog, because everyone with a toy dog does. They assume the dog is, well, a toy. It’s not. It’s the exact same animal as the pitt, and just because it’s small doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be constantly working on training.

Stop worrying about a dog that’s shown zero aggression (and from your description seems to be well trained and managed) and worry about your own dog.

Well it doesn’t matter to the general public whether OP does a good job training her dog because toy breeds aren’t responsible for mauling apart young children. And the fact it’s the pit Bull owners who disobey leash laws is unsurprising because so many owners of this breed are narcissists who think rules don’t apply to them and seem in complete denial about what their dog has been bred for. Absolute idiots. These dogs are trash for trash owners. I don’t know any educated, successful people with these dogs. It’s always low class dog owners. I feel embarrassed for the people who own these things, it’s like a billboard to the world about how dumb you are.

My neighbor, who is always on the Washington Top Docs List, has one. Ask your docs if they own them next time you go, make sure to let them know they're trashy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today I confronted my neighbors who have a pit bull in the apartment complex where there are breed restrictions. In my building, there are at least three different renters in three different units with breeds that are restricted: pit bulls and German shepherds.

I have a small toy breed dog.

This neighbor leaves the dog unleashed and unattended on their balcony. I have started avoiding walking by their balcony. The dog will stare at me and my dog when we walk by. Sometimes the dog will jump up and put her paws on the railing, standing. She's on sidewalk level, and she can easily jump over.

Because of painters, I had to park my car near their apartment. I was afraid.

Today, I was walking out of the mail room three buildings away, and the pit bull was unleashed and jaunting toward me. The young couple was walking behind the dog with their smaller dog on a leash.

I wasn't afraid, but I was startled. I was very polite. But, I told them, "Your dog frightens me. I'm afraid of your dog." They are a young couple who speak English as a second language. The woman said her dog is very nice. I asked how old is the dog, is the dog really old and not able to jump? Because I see the dog sitting outside without a leash. She said the dog is only 1 year old.

Just a few feet away from where the pit bull was walking off leash, is a children's playground, with small children playing.

Everyone thinks their dog is okay and will not hurt anyone. However, I can no longer abide by people who are flagrantly walking around with the pit bull not even on a leash. I think it's cruel to have a dog that size in a small apartment to begin with.

What do I do? Should I write a formal email/letter to the management? Should I go to the management and speak with them? I'm a woman in my early 50s. I don't have small children. How can I possibly be the only person who complains about this issue?

Issue 1: Breed restriction violations.
Issue 2: Leash law violations.

Are you sure that the German Shepherd (GSD) isn't a service dog?
The Pit definitely wouldn't be a service dog, but the GSD may be.

Service dogs are always allowed to live in housing that otherwise have pet-free policies or breed restrictions, because as service dogs, they go through such extensive & intensive training to become service dog certified.

My GSD is a service dog, but you'd know it as soon as you saw him, as he doesn't act or react like a pet dog would (although, in our home, he's our lovable & loving PET, once he walks out those front doors, he knows he's working & on the clock, so no saying hi to other dogs, no sniffing the grass for an hour, no distractions, period).

Sadly, all your neighbor would have to do is tell the landlord that their GSD is in actuality a service animal, and your landlord would NOT be allowed to ask what their disability is that requires a service dog, nor is the landlord allowed to ask for proof of certification -- it's against ADA laws, and ADA laws are VERY strict.
As such, people will always look to take advantage of them.

So, if your neighbor with the GSD says that it's a service dog (even if it's totally obvious to you that the dog is untrained & undisciplinled, so not really a service dog) your landlord is NEVER allowed to ask for proof or certification, nor what the nature of the disability is... sorry.

Unfortuantely, this could be true of almost any dog.

That's very true -- but only certain breeds are trained as registered service dogs... and Pit's aren't one of them.

Rottweilers are, quite often, and they were the "hated" dog around here for quite a while. Might still be.

https://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/akc-names-the-countrys-top-therapy-dog