Neighbor in apartment violating dog breed restriction and leash laws with pit bull

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.


Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Today I confronted my neighbors who have a pit bull in the apartment complex where there are breed restrictions. In my building, there are at least three different renters in three different units with breeds that are restricted: pit bulls and German shepherds.

I have a small toy breed dog.

This neighbor leaves the dog unleashed and unattended on their balcony. I have started avoiding walking by their balcony. The dog will stare at me and my dog when we walk by. Sometimes the dog will jump up and put her paws on the railing, standing. She's on sidewalk level, and she can easily jump over.

Because of painters, I had to park my car near their apartment. I was afraid.

Today, I was walking out of the mail room three buildings away, and the pit bull was unleashed and jaunting toward me. The young couple was walking behind the dog with their smaller dog on a leash.

I wasn't afraid, but I was startled. I was very polite. But, I told them, "Your dog frightens me. I'm afraid of your dog." They are a young couple who speak English as a second language. The woman said her dog is very nice. I asked how old is the dog, is the dog really old and not able to jump? Because I see the dog sitting outside without a leash. She said the dog is only 1 year old.

Just a few feet away from where the pit bull was walking off leash, is a children's playground, with small children playing.

Everyone thinks their dog is okay and will not hurt anyone. However, I can no longer abide by people who are flagrantly walking around with the pit bull not even on a leash. I think it's cruel to have a dog that size in a small apartment to begin with.

What do I do? Should I write a formal email/letter to the management? Should I go to the management and speak with them? I'm a woman in my early 50s. I don't have small children. How can I possibly be the only person who complains about this issue?

Issue 1: Breed restriction violations.
Issue 2: Leash law violations.


Are you sure that the German Shepherd (GSD) isn't a service dog?
The Pit definitely wouldn't be a service dog, but the GSD may be.

Service dogs are always allowed to live in housing that otherwise have pet-free policies or breed restrictions, because as service dogs, they go through such extensive & intensive training to become service dog certified.

My GSD is a service dog, but you'd know it as soon as you saw him, as he doesn't act or react like a pet dog would (although, in our home, he's our lovable & loving PET, once he walks out those front doors, he knows he's working & on the clock, so no saying hi to other dogs, no sniffing the grass for an hour, no distractions, period).

Sadly, all your neighbor would have to do is tell the landlord that their GSD is in actuality a service animal, and your landlord would NOT be allowed to ask what their disability is that requires a service dog, nor is the landlord allowed to ask for proof of certification -- it's against ADA laws, and ADA laws are VERY strict.
As such, people will always look to take advantage of them.

So, if your neighbor with the GSD says that it's a service dog (even if it's totally obvious to you that the dog is untrained & undisciplinled, so not really a service dog) your landlord is NEVER allowed to ask for proof or certification, nor what the nature of the disability is... sorry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.


Lol, no. You're hopelessly stupid.
Anonymous
The only violation in your scenario is the dog being off leash in communal space. If you want to complain about that do so to your management company.
You don’t know the breed of the dog unless they told you, everyone scared of dogs thinks every dog is a pit bull, If it’s living there where there are breed restrictions as you said then it’s most likely not a pit bull. and the dog on the balcony ( with a railing) is non of your business.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.


Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.


Do you genuinely believe this, or is just your go-to trolling move?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.


Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.

Dogs descend from wolves. They all have killer instincts!
Anonymous
Put it in writing, preferably with photo and video evidence.

If something happens, their insurance will probably not protect them. Maybe that will set them straight.
Anonymous
you phone animal control about the leash law and they will come and talk to the owners and tell them that if they are found in violation again there will be legal consequences. you can remain anonymous but given your conversations with these neighbors, it will obviously have been you making that call.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ima going to guess that OP has done a terrible job training their dog, because everyone with a toy dog does. They assume the dog is, well, a toy. It’s not. It’s the exact same animal as the pitt, and just because it’s small doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be constantly working on training.

Stop worrying about a dog that’s shown zero aggression (and from your description seems to be well trained and managed) and worry about your own dog.


I agree with you. However here are a couple of points, having owned dogs all my life (too many decades!)

OP, if the dog on the balcony is the shepherd, a shepherd will be able to jump - they jump 6' fences like it is nothing. If the shepherd has not yet "learned" to jump, it will eventually jump. This is not to say it has bad intentions - ALL dogs are only as "bad" as their owners. Period.

Dogs change their temperament when they become "teenagers", some more, some less, some better, some worse. Do not assume that owners give their dogs effective training, because most do not.

Small dogs start the issue, big dogs finish it, but the big dog will inevitably be blamed, due to its size.

Contact management and put all of the issues in writing - highlighting buildings rules and off leash county laws.

Start looking for another place, because clearly the rules in your buildings do not seem to be enforced, and you don't want to wait until it is too late before they are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.


Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.

Dogs descend from wolves. They all have killer instincts!


No, dogs do not descend from Wolves, they are a different species.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.


Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.


Do you genuinely believe this, or is just your go-to trolling move?


+1

This is a common myth perpetuated by people with small dogs.

All dogs are only as "good" or "bad" as their training. Training is first and foremost for dog owners - who need to control their dogs and do not know how - which is most dog owners.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The only violation in your scenario is the dog being off leash in communal space. If you want to complain about that do so to your management company.
You don’t know the breed of the dog unless they told you, everyone scared of dogs thinks every dog is a pit bull, If it’s living there where there are breed restrictions as you said then it’s most likely not a pit bull. and the dog on the balcony ( with a railing) is non of your business.


+1

Enough with the pit bull crap, and stick to the facts when you talk to management, OP.
Anonymous
Owners that have off leash dogs as a practice claim that their dog is "trained" when they are not - which causes trouble for everyone, dog people and not dog people.

If your dog does not come to you FIRST call, and stay close to you at ALL times, they are NOT trained.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doberman Pinschers were the "bad" dog years ago. There's nothing inherently bad about pit bulls. Just some owners who want them to be aggressive. Sounds like these owners are not that type.

But you should take it up with your apt management team.


Pit bulls were bred to kill. They have several mechanisms to accomplish that that other dogs don’t possess, such as the ability to lock their jaw. They’re horrific and should become extinct. OP has every right to worry and complain.

Dogs descend from wolves. They all have killer instincts!


No, dogs do not descend from Wolves, they are a different species.


DP: this is false. Dogs are a direct descendent of the gray wolf
Anonymous
Statistics show that the highest dog attacks by breed are from Pit Bulls. Their natural aggression and high provocation rate from humans cause Pit Bulls to have the highest attack rate in the United States when compared to other dog breeds.

Op, report right away to management. You don’t want to become another victim.
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