Elon Bemoans Birth Conrol

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Anonymous wrote:Mormons send their kids to BYU
Great school and very affordable.

You are only allowed to pay Mormon rates (close to free) if you’re a Mormon in good standing

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Musk’s ilk constantly bemoan single mothers & immigrants having kids

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Anonymous wrote:Look to China's one kid policy as an example of how a society grows. When you millenials and gen-x get close to retirement age you maybe thinking differently towards the father of 9...

The U.S. is not a hospitable place to raise children. You give birth in a “baby-friendly” hospital (read: you’re expected to care for an infant yourself after you just gave birth) then your slapped with a hospital bill, get 6 weeks if you are lucky of maternity leave, pay $2000/month for daycare, pay for a $700k house for the 60s in a barely-adequate school district and $100,000 to send your kid to a basic instate public university.

This. I’m a UMC working woman. We stopped at two kids, despit wanting 3. Daycare, plus childcare, plus summer care, plus college savings were straining our budget. I only would have gotten six weeks of maternity leave. DH would have gotten none. And we had hit our workplaces tolerance max for absences due to sick kids, school holidays, etc. we didn’t have time time or money to do right by a third child. And, we phased out of some of the tax breaks.

If you want UMC white kids, don’t phase out college tax credits by income, make 529s and tuition payments full deductible at the federal level, and make childcare fully deductible. Right now, it’s less than $3000- so basically 10% of the cost for two young kids.

Honest question — how do mormons do it?

They all seem to have nice houses in Utah, Idaho, Arizona.

Large families, educated, nice homes

They don’t seem poor or downwardly mobile

What’s their secret?

You’re only seeing the Mormons that successfully stayed Mormon. Abiding Mormons are expected to follow strict rules.

And additionally, if you’re in the DC area or traveling & see a Mormon family of 6 at the airport—you’re seeing the Mormons who “made it out” so to speak. Their husbands got big corporate jobs & moved out of Provo. Most Mormon families with 6 kids work for Mormon-owned businesses & can’t afford to travel with all of them. You don’t see the ones that stayed in the Mormon bubble; they don’t interact with non-Mormons much.

Pp you are responding to.

I meant Mormons in the intermountain west.

Not Romney types that come out east.

I know there is some Mormon-type goodwill stores that Mormons use for hand-me-downs, which seems smart

Not a Mormon but from large family. We not only shared bedrooms, we shared beds. The only new clothes I got growing up was underwear. I even wore hand-me-down socks and shoes. People used to drop things off for us. No summer camps or vacations for us. Never had birthday parties. Very limited Christmas and birthday gifts. Never, ever went out to restaurants or movies. We each started working as soon as we could, whether babysitting or mowing lawns or working at the grocery store. Those of us who went to college paid our own way, with loans and scholarships.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk’s ilk constantly bemoan single mothers & immigrants having kids

Which is so funny because Musk is an immigrant and has 3 single baby mamas.

Musk also is not on speaking terms with his eldest child, who has recently transitioned into a woman.

Maybe we shouldn’t listen to Musk about ANYTHING when it comes to raising kids, giving birth, gender identity, etc.

He fails to even get his own house in order. The man is a spoiled rotten agent of chaos.

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Anonymous wrote:Look to China's one kid policy as an example of how a society grows. When you millenials and gen-x get close to retirement age you maybe thinking differently towards the father of 9...

The U.S. is not a hospitable place to raise children. You give birth in a “baby-friendly” hospital (read: you’re expected to care for an infant yourself after you just gave birth) then your slapped with a hospital bill, get 6 weeks if you are lucky of maternity leave, pay $2000/month for daycare, pay for a $700k house for the 60s in a barely-adequate school district and $100,000 to send your kid to a basic instate public university.

This. I’m a UMC working woman. We stopped at two kids, despit wanting 3. Daycare, plus childcare, plus summer care, plus college savings were straining our budget. I only would have gotten six weeks of maternity leave. DH would have gotten none. And we had hit our workplaces tolerance max for absences due to sick kids, school holidays, etc. we didn’t have time time or money to do right by a third child. And, we phased out of some of the tax breaks.

If you want UMC white kids, don’t phase out college tax credits by income, make 529s and tuition payments full deductible at the federal level, and make childcare fully deductible. Right now, it’s less than $3000- so basically 10% of the cost for two young kids.

Honest question — how do mormons do it?

They all seem to have nice houses in Utah, Idaho, Arizona.

Large families, educated, nice homes

They don’t seem poor or downwardly mobile

What’s their secret?

You’re only seeing the Mormons that successfully stayed Mormon. Abiding Mormons are expected to follow strict rules.

And additionally, if you’re in the DC area or traveling & see a Mormon family of 6 at the airport—you’re seeing the Mormons who “made it out” so to speak. Their husbands got big corporate jobs & moved out of Provo. Most Mormon families with 6 kids work for Mormon-owned businesses & can’t afford to travel with all of them. You don’t see the ones that stayed in the Mormon bubble; they don’t interact with non-Mormons much.

Pp you are responding to.

I meant Mormons in the intermountain west.

Not Romney types that come out east.

I know there is some Mormon-type goodwill stores that Mormons use for hand-me-downs, which seems smart

Not a Mormon but from large family. We not only shared bedrooms, we shared beds. The only new clothes I got growing up was underwear. I even wore hand-me-down socks and shoes. People used to drop things off for us. No summer camps or vacations for us. Never had birthday parties. Very limited Christmas and birthday gifts. Never, ever went out to restaurants or movies. We each started working as soon as we could, whether babysitting or mowing lawns or working at the grocery store. Those of us who went to college paid our own way, with loans and scholarships.

That is a horrible way to live. I think couples should have 1 or 2 kids only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mormons send their kids to BYU
Great school and very affordable.

True

I was shocked to find out how much BYU is

Close to Notre dame education for 1/6 the price

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Anonymous wrote:Look to China's one kid policy as an example of how a society grows. When you millenials and gen-x get close to retirement age you maybe thinking differently towards the father of 9...

The U.S. is not a hospitable place to raise children. You give birth in a “baby-friendly” hospital (read: you’re expected to care for an infant yourself after you just gave birth) then your slapped with a hospital bill, get 6 weeks if you are lucky of maternity leave, pay $2000/month for daycare, pay for a $700k house for the 60s in a barely-adequate school district and $100,000 to send your kid to a basic instate public university.

This. I’m a UMC working woman. We stopped at two kids, despit wanting 3. Daycare, plus childcare, plus summer care, plus college savings were straining our budget. I only would have gotten six weeks of maternity leave. DH would have gotten none. And we had hit our workplaces tolerance max for absences due to sick kids, school holidays, etc. we didn’t have time time or money to do right by a third child. And, we phased out of some of the tax breaks.

If you want UMC white kids, don’t phase out college tax credits by income, make 529s and tuition payments full deductible at the federal level, and make childcare fully deductible. Right now, it’s less than $3000- so basically 10% of the cost for two young kids.

Honest question — how do mormons do it?

They all seem to have nice houses in Utah, Idaho, Arizona.

Large families, educated, nice homes

They don’t seem poor or downwardly mobile

What’s their secret?

Mormons are insanely frugal. They hate to spend a buck.

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Look to China's one kid policy as an example of how a society grows. When you millenials and gen-x get close to retirement age you maybe thinking differently towards the father of 9...


The U.S. is not a hospitable place to raise children. You give birth in a “baby-friendly” hospital (read: you’re expected to care for an infant yourself after you just gave birth) then your slapped with a hospital bill, get 6 weeks if you are lucky of maternity leave, pay $2000/month for daycare, pay for a $700k house for the 60s in a barely-adequate school district and $100,000 to send your kid to a basic instate public university.


This. I’m a UMC working woman. We stopped at two kids, despit wanting 3. Daycare, plus childcare, plus summer care, plus college savings were straining our budget. I only would have gotten six weeks of maternity leave. DH would have gotten none. And we had hit our workplaces tolerance max for absences due to sick kids, school holidays, etc. we didn’t have time time or money to do right by a third child. And, we phased out of some of the tax breaks.

If you want UMC white kids, don’t phase out college tax credits by income, make 529s and tuition payments full deductible at the federal level, and make childcare fully deductible. Right now, it’s less than $3000- so basically 10% of the cost for two young kids.


Honest question — how do mormons do it?

They all seem to have nice houses in Utah, Idaho, Arizona.

Large families, educated, nice homes

They don’t seem poor or downwardly mobile

What’s their secret?


You’re only seeing the Mormons that successfully stayed Mormon. Abiding Mormons are expected to follow strict rules.

And additionally, if you’re in the DC area or traveling & see a Mormon family of 6 at the airport—you’re seeing the Mormons who “made it out” so to speak. Their husbands got big corporate jobs & moved out of Provo. Most Mormon families with 6 kids work for Mormon-owned businesses & can’t afford to travel with all of them. You don’t see the ones that stayed in the Mormon bubble; they don’t interact with non-Mormons much.

This. They don't all have "nice homes". Have you been through those towns in Utah? I don't think you have. The homes are shacks and the nicest place in town is the temple. There are plenty of poor Mormons.

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Read Educated by Tara Westover, she was raised by Mormons & they were broke

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Anonymous wrote:Read Educated by Tara Westover, she was raised by Mormons & they were broke

Thanks for this - looks fascinating

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Yeah, we should all follow the advice of a multi-billionaire on how many kids we, peasants, should be able to afford to raise. Raising a new generation of indentured workers isn't something he can relate to

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, we should all follow the advice of a multi-billionaire on how many kids we, peasants, should be able to afford to raise. Raising a new generation of indentured workers isn't something he can relate to

He’s also estranged from his 19 y/o and has three baby mamas

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Is that woman’s Twitter account a bot? Please look at it

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Read Justine Musk's 2010 essay about her marriage to Elon. At least four of her children were born through IVF. So how is birth control hurting him?

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