
DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns. So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little. |
God forbid a kid develop their own ethos and evolve to a better place than the bigots who raised them. |
OP, what can I say. In our home we teach that the Golden Rule is our guidepost. For everything. That plus having a hard work ethic, a deep love for our democracy, respect for our institutions, an open and flexible mind, respect for truth, respect for science, a mission to protect our environment - and a loathing for authoritarians whose fear is threatening our nation, our libraries, our schools. We raised moderates who are attending / will be attending college in states where democracy is threatened much more from the right than from the left. I trust that my “kids” are fully formed enough to navigate these difficult waters. My job is done when it comes to their thoughts and minds. All I can hope is that they treat others well, and continue to discern tropes and false flags to exercise their own excellent brains. They are them, not me. Despite the extremism that we sometimes feel dominates, a lot of us are moderates who are not afraid to discuss issues with others who hold different views. What I am intolerant of is the attempt to control the thoughts and minds (and reading material) of others, particularly in our schools. They can understand lenses, perspectives. nuances, biases better than we could. And while I hope my DC’s will be moderates too, that is now up to them. |
The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed. When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment. |
My DD graduated from VT a raging leftist activist esp. on abortion issues |
DP, but if they are influenced to believe that the way to do this is through disruption, disorder, and ideological witch hunts, we're going to have a problem. |
Thankfully, VT is large enough for everyone to find their own people. My DD is there right now and is most definitely a moderate, with moderate friends. She would steer clear of any "raging" extremists, on either side. |
+100 |
Sorry but most young women believe very strongly in pro choice, that didnt come from college, it came from outrage that she is not in control of her own body. |
The issue isn’t abortion. It’s the whole “social justice” movement which rejects all the basic political values traditional liberals and conservatives share (equality, free speech etc) |
Wonderful question, OP. It sounds as if growing up with you for a parent will be enough to drive your daughter to the opposite end of the political spectrum, no college degree necessary. #WINNING |
This is why we kept our DDs under close supervision at home until their weddings. |
If there's ever a time to be rabidly pro-abortion-rights, it is as a woman in her early 20s. Goodness. Be glad, PP. That's an unwanted pregnancy danger zone period of life. |
How are people having so much trouble imagining that parents who don't want their kids to join cultish, Marxist movements also don't want their daughters to be Sister Wives? Your attitude is extreme, too. |
Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country. |