Yale vs Penn State - Your Honest Opinion Please

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Anonymous wrote:Yale could open such large career doors that 35k/yr could be a blip in 5yrs. What if ds made $120k coming out of Yale?

This should not be a part of the equation. Dale and Kruger's research has shown over and over (3 decades of data) that the same student will have the same outcomes financially whether they go to an elite college or their safety school. The situation OP is in is literally what D+K's study focuses on.

Ok. Ds will have access to every name brand banking, consulting, tech, and private equity firms (that hire from ug) through on campus recruiting if he goes to yale. That will not be the same case if he goes to Penn state. Sure, he could make it in those fields… I did from a no name school, but much less likely and much more difficult than if I would have attended yale

But you don’t know what field he wants to go into. For fields without a high ROI, Penn State gives you freedom that Yale can’t. And for plenty of practical fields, Penn State will teach you how to do the work and plug you into an enormous network, whereas at Yale you’ll learn a lot of theory and know a handful of rich people in Manhattan who can’t help you find a job in Pittsburgh. On the other hand if you want to be a professor of comparative lit, Yale is the only choice, but you will literally never repay the loans. I think this really depends on what the kid wants to study, and what he wants to do after school (and the fact that this question came up at all makes me think the answer is, he has no idea.)

A mile wide & an inch deep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read an article about how Yale just hosted an author who is brazenly antisemitic and against all white people.
She apparently said she was happy about 9/11. She said the Jews deserved the holocaust.

So, Yale doesn’t seem like such a great place to me.

Is this all you have... just this one thing and nothing else? Seems fairly flimsy to base an entire school decision on, but you do you, hon!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yale could open such large career doors that 35k/yr could be a blip in 5yrs. What if ds made $120k coming out of Yale?

This should not be a part of the equation. Dale and Kruger's research has shown over and over (3 decades of data) that the same student will have the same outcomes financially whether they go to an elite college or their safety school. The situation OP is in is literally what D+K's study focuses on.

Ok. Ds will have access to every name brand banking, consulting, tech, and private equity firms (that hire from ug) through on campus recruiting if he goes to yale. That will not be the same case if he goes to Penn state. Sure, he could make it in those fields… I did from a no name school, but much less likely and much more difficult than if I would have attended yale

But you don’t know what field he wants to go into. For fields without a high ROI, Penn State gives you freedom that Yale can’t. And for plenty of practical fields, Penn State will teach you how to do the work and plug you into an enormous network, whereas at Yale you’ll learn a lot of theory and know a handful of rich people in Manhattan who can’t help you find a job in Pittsburgh. On the other hand if you want to be a professor of comparative lit, Yale is the only choice, but you will literally never repay the loans. I think this really depends on what the kid wants to study, and what he wants to do after school (and the fact that this question came up at all makes me think the answer is, he has no idea.)

OP hasn’t stated if there loans involved so I’m assuming no.

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What? Penn State was a solid safety for dc, but Yale was a far reach. It’s definitely not the same. If the difference is only $35k, you get a far better deal financially attending Y.

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Anonymous wrote:If Costco were a factor, why Penn state? Why not a cheaper option, a local community college? A transfer degree from Penn state is still a Penn state.

From Yale, your students can get a lucrative internships/jobs that will pay for the additional cost.

Yale, hands down.

I got into PSU (instate) for freshman admission at University Park 10 years ago. Since there is no way I could’ve afforded to attend, I went one of the smaller PA state schools. No regrets.

[Anonymous]

Is your husband always a cheap penny-pincher or is this something unusual for him?

What had you discuss/anticipated/planned on spending for college previously?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Yale could open such large career doors that 35k/yr could be a blip in 5yrs. What if ds made $120k coming out of Yale?

This should not be a part of the equation. Dale and Kruger's research has shown over and over (3 decades of data) that the same student will have the same outcomes financially whether they go to an elite college or their safety school. The situation OP is in is literally what D+K's study focuses on.

Ok. Ds will have access to every name brand banking, consulting, tech, and private equity firms (that hire from ug) through on campus recruiting if he goes to yale. That will not be the same case if he goes to Penn state. Sure, he could make it in those fields… I did from a no name school, but much less likely and much more difficult than if I would have attended yale

But you don’t know what field he wants to go into. For fields without a high ROI, Penn State gives you freedom that Yale can’t. And for plenty of practical fields, Penn State will teach you how to do the work and plug you into an enormous network, whereas at Yale you’ll learn a lot of theory and know a handful of rich people in Manhattan who can’t help you find a job in Pittsburgh. On the other hand if you want to be a professor of comparative lit, Yale is the only choice, but you will literally never repay the loans. I think this really depends on what the kid wants to study, and what he wants to do after school (and the fact that this question came up at all makes me think the answer is, he has no idea.)

A mile wide & an inch deep

In a lot of fields the Yale network isn’t either wide or deep. As I said, if you want to go into comparative lit or Wall Street finance, Yale. If you want to be a construction manager, Penn State. (The construction manager might be less prestigious, but he’ll make way more than the professor of comparative lit.) It really depends on what the kid wants to do, and none of us know the answer to that question.

[Anonymous]

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Is your husband always a cheap penny-pincher or is this something unusual for him?

What had you discuss/anticipated/planned on spending for college previously?

$140k+ cost difference isn’t “penny-pinching.”

[Anonymous]

What a disservice to your kid to “be able to afford” Yale and the fake & lie with the “now that I think about it, I changed my mind, they’re the same education, go to Penn State”. I’d hate you forever.

[Anonymous]

This is a joke, right? If you can afford it without compromising your retirement and your kid wants to go there, Yale is obviously better. I went to Penn State and it's a good school, but it's not Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:Your premise is flawed--the educations are not remotely the same. And the cohort certainly isn't either. If you can swing it, Yale is well worth the extra money.

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Very confusing post. OP do you mean UPenn???

[Anonymous]

OP has to be a troll post.There is no comparison between Yale and Penn state. When I first read the title I thought maybe they meant University of Pennsylvania, but no it clearly says Penn state.

OP, if you are for real, send your child to Yale

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your premise is flawed--the educations are not remotely the same. And the cohort certainly isn't either. If you can swing it, Yale is well worth the extra money.

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Very confusing post. OP do you mean UPenn???

i don't think this is what they meant - UPenn is private and presumably the cost difference between Yale/Penn would be negligible. But difference between Yale/Penn State likely significant. She says Yale would be 37K more yearly for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read an article about how Yale just hosted an author who is brazenly antisemitic and against all white people.
She apparently said she was happy about 9/11. She said the Jews deserved the holocaust.

So, Yale doesn’t seem like such a great place to me.

Penn State says: hold my beer. I’ve got some shockingly disgusting things to tell you about PSU - and not just options but actual facts.

[Anonymous]

Yale was a life changing experience for me.

I actually think it’s sort of cruel to let your kid apply to Yale if you aren’t willing to send him when it’s not related to financial aid. Yale v Penn State isn’t a close comparison (actually kind of usual for a Yale admit to have no in between options?). Was there any realistic circumstance in which your DH would pony up for Yale? If not, he was basically letting your DS apply for the (DH) ego points only. That’s really crappy.