Are Va.'s big colleges driving small ones out of business?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They don't mention CNU at all that I saw. And what about ODU?

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CNU, especially, is a very popular school. I would be extremely surprised if they were losing enrollment.

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Anonymous wrote:The lost me at

"When selective schools such as Virginia Tech take more students, they reach into James Madison University's pool. That forces JMU to reach into the pockets of Radford, Longwood or Mary Washington"

JMU is harder to get into than it's ever been. There are kids going to JMU who would have been at UVA 20 years ago

Not really. It used to be harder in the past--now 72% of students don't submit test scores and they accepted 86% of students last year.

At my DD Bethesda HS, 40 kids applied and JMU only accepted 8. Some of her friends with good stats were rejected and disappointed.

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We know of several excellent students who were outright rejected at JMU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is really about the change in what kids want to major in. It seems that 2/3rds of all HS seniors are planning to major in computer science. The humanities majors are shrinking... people just don't care to major in English or History or Econ or Theatre anymore. Some do, but fewer and fewer. Any universities that want to attract students HAVE to have a reputable computer science program. It's a harder sell at these smaller schools. Yes, they have it, but they need to market the heck out of it to let people know! And they need to build a reputation that people associate with industry employment. Again, it's hard for these smaller schools.

I have one at UMW. It has been a great fit for her. I really want to see schools like UMW make it. But, I do worry about whether the "liberal arts" concept is in the past.

Longwood should be fine; they offer great education and nursing programs at a very affordable price point. Maybe the president should work on marketing their school better

DP
+1 I had actually never seen it before but was impressed by the picture in the article - really beautiful buildings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is really about the change in what kids want to major in. It seems that 2/3rds of all HS seniors are planning to major in computer science. The humanities majors are shrinking... people just don't care to major in English or History or Econ or Theatre anymore. Some do, but fewer and fewer. Any universities that want to attract students HAVE to have a reputable computer science program. It's a harder sell at these smaller schools. Yes, they have it, but they need to market the heck out of it to let people know! And they need to build a reputation that people associate with industry employment. Again, it's hard for these smaller schools.

I have one at UMW. It has been a great fit for her. I really want to see schools like UMW make it. But, I do worry about whether the "liberal arts" concept is in the past.

Longwood should be fine; they offer great education and nursing programs at a very affordable price point. Maybe the president should work on marketing their school better

I didn't mention Longwood, so not sure why you are putting out tbe attitude. Fwiw, UMW also has a nursing program. But that wasn't the point of the post.

UMW’s nursing program is completion only (so you can only transfer in)

They work directly with Germana cc for the first two years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article

https://richmond.com/news/local/education/enrollment-virginia-tech-university-of-virginia-william-and-mary/article_de48dc2c-d47a-11ed-86d6-87a4f54763b5.html?fbclid=IwAR1wZEzW3uCJ8CdBi_NKwso4pqxBfK5DPfwmOjRUwHmLL85XhJvAhR0sMow

Must be a sad, slow news day at RTD with this article pitting the different great public colleges and universities of Virginia against one another. WITW. Maybe those reporters can spend their time reporting on real news, like that crime against children involving the people from Richmond/Charlottesville in the other thread. This gets an article but that doesn't? I don't know anything anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is really about the change in what kids want to major in. It seems that 2/3rds of all HS seniors are planning to major in computer science. The humanities majors are shrinking... people just don't care to major in English or History or Econ or Theatre anymore. Some do, but fewer and fewer. Any universities that want to attract students HAVE to have a reputable computer science program. It's a harder sell at these smaller schools. Yes, they have it, but they need to market the heck out of it to let people know! And they need to build a reputation that people associate with industry employment. Again, it's hard for these smaller schools.

I have one at UMW. It has been a great fit for her. I really want to see schools like UMW make it. But, I do worry about whether the "liberal arts" concept is in the past.

Longwood should be fine; they offer great education and nursing programs at a very affordable price point. Maybe the president should work on marketing their school better

I didn't mention Longwood, so not sure why you are putting out tbe attitude. Fwiw, UMW also has a nursing program. But that wasn't the point of the post.

UMW’s nursing program is completion only (so you can only transfer in)

They work directly with Germana cc for the first two years.

But you aren’t a UMW student all 4 years - nothing wrong with that, obviously, just don’t want people to think you can just go there as a freshman and major in nursing

[Anonymous]

The article is spot on. Go to SCHEV website and look at enrollment trends. Radford, Umw, Longwood all losing students. Same for several small private schools. Expansion at VT, JMU, etc is hurting smaller schools and tax dollars are facilitating it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The article is spot on. Go to SCHEV website and look at enrollment trends. Radford, Umw, Longwood all losing students. Same for several small private schools. Expansion at VT, JMU, etc is hurting smaller schools and tax dollars are facilitating it.

So what's your suggestion?

[Anonymous]

We need an excellent school here in NoVA. Ridiculous that we don’t have one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need an excellent school here in NoVA. Ridiculous that we don’t have one

We have GMU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need an excellent school here in NoVA. Ridiculous that we don’t have one

Mason

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need an excellent school here in NoVA. Ridiculous that we don’t have one

Nice trolling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article

https://richmond.com/news/local/education/enrollment-virginia-tech-university-of-virginia-william-and-mary/article_de48dc2c-d47a-11ed-86d6-87a4f54763b5.html?fbclid=IwAR1wZEzW3uCJ8CdBi_NKwso4pqxBfK5DPfwmOjRUwHmLL85XhJvAhR0sMow

Must be a sad, slow news day at RTD with this article pitting the different







great public colleges and universities of Virginia against one another. WITW. Maybe those reporters can spend their time reporting on real news, like that crime against children involving the people from Richmond/Charlottesville in the other thread. This gets an article but that doesn't? I don't know anything anymore.

Local papers will print anything for advertising monies. This guy spent 11years as a sports writer. He knows nothing. Local papers will pay for spot issues on anything. I could submit ten different essays tomorrow and get across the board acceptances for a trifle

[Anonymous]

Bills have been written but not passed in the GA to cap enrollments. The number of HS students in VA is starting to decline and there will be fewer potential college students -- there is no doubt that expanding enrollment at large state schools is having an adverse impact on smaller schools (both public and private) in VA.

[Anonymous]

The competition for college students will only get tougher (see trends below). Large state schools have built infrastructure to accommodate large student populationts, it will be tough to get them to cap enrollment to help keep the smaller schools afloat.

https://sfac.virginia.gov/pdf/committee_meeting_presentations/2022/Annual%20Meeting%20Longwood/111722_No3_DemographicTrendsVirginia_UVA.pdf