Why is so hard to find a great NY-style pizza outside of New York ?

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Anonymous wrote:There's something about the NY water that makes pizza dough and bagels better. Unless you're importing the water, it's just not the same!

I think this is a myth. Water is water.

[Anonymous]

Enough with the water argument. So stupid

[Anonymous]

Interesting take on water

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/new-york-water-bagels-pizza#:~:text=So%2C%20yes%2C%20New%20York%20City,dough%20for%20bagels%20and%20pizza.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that it must be the water.

I’ve lived in New Haven, NYC, Baltimore and DC.
with regard to pizza, NYC>New Haven >>>>Baltimore>DC.

The taste of the water follows roughly the same pattern.

The tap water in Baltimore and DC is just awful. Strange chemically taste and an unpleasant mouthfeel. Someone could make good money by just bottling NYC water, though.

I’ve lived in the same four cities— and would have the same overall pizza rankings that you do.
For drinking tap water, though, I prefer NYC water by far. I would seriously pay to get NYC water. Seriously. I wonder if Seth Goldman or someone like that could hook a sister up?

Do either of you have any recs for NY style pizza in Baltimore?

There’s no real NY style…. We used to get Iggie’s and Joe Squared, but that was 5-10 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Mamma Lucia's is good

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mamma Lucia's is good

+1. It’s no Joe’s, but it’s probably the closest I’ve had to NY style pizza around here.

[Anonymous]

Original Ledos pepperoni is the worlds best.

Hate to say it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NY Pizza is not all that.

+1. Why do people like NY pizza is beyond me. The mushy limp crust that's like undercooked dough. The sauce is good, but the grease pooled on the top that feel like the worst fast food restaurant's old leftover food. No thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:NY Pizza is not all that.

+1. Why do people like NY pizza is beyond me. The mushy limp crust that's like undercooked dough. The sauce is good, but the grease pooled on the top that feel like the worst fast food restaurant's old leftover food. No thank you.

If you had “mushy limp crust that’s like undercooked dough”, that means that you haven’t tried GOOD NY pizza. It should be a little greasy though — which might not be to your taste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that it must be the water.

I’ve lived in New Haven, NYC, Baltimore and DC.
with regard to pizza, NYC>New Haven >>>>Baltimore>DC.

The taste of the water follows roughly the same pattern.

The tap water in Baltimore and DC is just awful. Strange chemically taste and an unpleasant mouthfeel. Someone could make good money by just bottling NYC water, though.

I’ve lived in the same four cities— and would have the same overall pizza rankings that you do.
For drinking tap water, though, I prefer NYC water by far. I would seriously pay to get NYC water. Seriously. I wonder if Seth Goldman or someone like that could hook a sister up?

Do either of you have any recs for NY style pizza in Baltimore?

Most of the places I would recommend are probably not there anymore. The closest to NY style might be BOP — Brick Oven Pizza, in Fells Point.

Al Pacino’s Pizza — crabmeat is the bomb! and Matthew’s Pizza on Eastern — also the crabmeat & shrimp, are are both truly delicious options, but I wouldn’t describe them as NY style. I can highly recommend both of them though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that it must be the water.

I’ve lived in New Haven, NYC, Baltimore and DC.
with regard to pizza, NYC>New Haven >>>>Baltimore>DC.

The taste of the water follows roughly the same pattern.

The tap water in Baltimore and DC is just awful. Strange chemically taste and an unpleasant mouthfeel. Someone could make good money by just bottling NYC water, though.

I’ve lived in the same four cities— and would have the same overall pizza rankings that you do.
For drinking tap water, though, I prefer NYC water by far. I would seriously pay to get NYC water. Seriously. I wonder if Seth Goldman or someone like that could hook a sister up?

Do either of you have any recs for NY style pizza in Baltimore?

Most of the places I would recommend are probably not there anymore. The closest to NY style might be BOP — Brick Oven Pizza, in Fells Point.

Al Pacino’s Pizza — crabmeat is the bomb! and Matthew’s Pizza on Eastern — also the crabmeat & shrimp, are are both truly delicious options, but I wouldn’t describe them as NY style. I can highly recommend both of them though.

Ok, it looks like BOP got a new owner, and then closed, so I don’t have a NY style pizza recommendation. Al Pacino’s and Matthew’s are so awesome though, that you might not care about NY style pizza once you try theirs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting take on water

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/new-york-water-bagels-pizza#:~:text=So%2C%20yes%2C%20New%20York%20City,dough%20for%20bagels%20and%20pizza.

Interesting article. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's something about the NY water that makes pizza dough and bagels better. Unless you're importing the water, it's just not the same!

I think this is a myth. Water is water.

This is silly. There are different minerals and all sorts of things in different water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Original Ledos pepperoni is the worlds best.

Hate to say it

Blasphemy

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Anonymous wrote:you can’t even find it in NY anymore, so it’s not surprising it’s not in the DMV food hellscape.

You know, I’ll grant that there’s no NY-style pizza here. I miss my beloved Chicago stuffed pizza or, as DH calls it, pizza casserole. But food hellscape, really?

This area has incredible Southeast Asian food, of all kinds. Ethiopian. West African. Salvadoran. If you can’t find anything good to eat beyond NY-style pizza, that’s on you.

You do you.