To Increase Equity, School Districts Eliminate Honors Classes

[Anonymous]

The big irony is that all these privileged adminstrators and activists forget what honors classes were like in non-upper class areas. They were the escape. The safe zone.

[Anonymous]

Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The big irony is that all these privileged adminstrators and activists forget what honors classes were like in non-upper class areas. They were the escape. The safe zone.

They.Don’t.Care

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

What do you think it looks like when "equity" is ACHIEVED in a school setting? Have you ever seen it happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

I think it's fine for school districts to accelerate kids as they deem necessary. Alg 1 in 7,8,9 is reasonable for the DC area. I prefer clustering and extensions over tracking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

The Algebra entry point aren't the cause of different math outcomes, they're a symptom. Assuming your answer to your question is no, wouldn't you also answer "no" to these questions:
Do you think it's equitable to have multiple different senior year math classes (basic/remedial math, normal precalc, honors precalc, Calc AB, Calc BC) that result in varying math outcomes for undergrad students?
Do you think it's equitable to have different degrees that result in varying career outcomes for college graduates?
Do you think it's equitable to have different careers that result in varying income options for employees?

If you want to see what your version of "equity" looks like in practice, I suggest you go read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

The Algebra entry point aren't the cause of different math outcomes, they're a symptom. Assuming your answer to your question is no, wouldn't you also answer "no" to these questions:
Do you think it's equitable to have multiple different senior year math classes (basic/remedial math, normal precalc, honors precalc, Calc AB, Calc BC) that result in varying math outcomes for undergrad students?
Do you think it's equitable to have different degrees that result in varying career outcomes for college graduates?
Do you think it's equitable to have different careers that result in varying income options for employees?

If you want to see what your version of "equity" looks like in practice, I suggest you go read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut

Of course those varying results in senior year, career, and income arent equitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

I think it's fine for school districts to accelerate kids as they deem necessary. Alg 1 in 7,8,9 is reasonable for the DC area. I prefer clustering and extensions over tracking.

But is it equitable for school districts to acceleerate kids in that 7,8,9 model?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

The Algebra entry point aren't the cause of different math outcomes, they're a symptom. Assuming your answer to your question is no, wouldn't you also answer "no" to these questions:
Do you think it's equitable to have multiple different senior year math classes (basic/remedial math, normal precalc, honors precalc, Calc AB, Calc BC) that result in varying math outcomes for undergrad students?
Do you think it's equitable to have different degrees that result in varying career outcomes for college graduates?
Do you think it's equitable to have different careers that result in varying income options for employees?

If you want to see what your version of "equity" looks like in practice, I suggest you go read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut

Of course those varying results in senior year, career, and income arent equitable.

Good. The kids aren't equal in smarts or effort or skills either. No one is. I hope we never have "equity" - it would be evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

The Algebra entry point aren't the cause of different math outcomes, they're a symptom. Assuming your answer to your question is no, wouldn't you also answer "no" to these questions:
Do you think it's equitable to have multiple different senior year math classes (basic/remedial math, normal precalc, honors precalc, Calc AB, Calc BC) that result in varying math outcomes for undergrad students?
Do you think it's equitable to have different degrees that result in varying career outcomes for college graduates?
Do you think it's equitable to have different careers that result in varying income options for employees?

If you want to see what your version of "equity" looks like in practice, I suggest you go read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut

Of course those varying results in senior year, career, and income arent equitable.

Now go look into the history of communist countries, which had much more equitable income outcomes, and see what they became and what became of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

The Algebra entry point aren't the cause of different math outcomes, they're a symptom. Assuming your answer to your question is no, wouldn't you also answer "no" to these questions:
Do you think it's equitable to have multiple different senior year math classes (basic/remedial math, normal precalc, honors precalc, Calc AB, Calc BC) that result in varying math outcomes for undergrad students?
Do you think it's equitable to have different degrees that result in varying career outcomes for college graduates?
Do you think it's equitable to have different careers that result in varying income options for employees?

If you want to see what your version of "equity" looks like in practice, I suggest you go read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut

Of course those varying results in senior year, career, and income arent equitable.

Now go look into the history of communist countries, which had much more equitable income outcomes, and see what they became and what became of them.

Will do, as long as you look up income inequality and what happens in countries with high levels of it.


The point is that there is a balance and neither extreme is beneficial to society at large.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should be pushing the school board and administrators on this.
Loudoun implemented VMPI early, eliminated 6th grade algebra, and had staff that wanted to eliminate 6th grade prealgebra.
Nevertheless, with parental pressure, 6th grade algebra was reinstated for 2022-2023.

Fairfax has I think Tina Mazzacane handling math curriculum, and she is on record wanting to eliminate different math tracks.
She instead wants to settle on algebra in 8th grade is advanced, so they are actually making math class tougher by putting everyone in this class.

Yep I think E3 will look to remove a path to 7th grade algebra while all the other efforts push to bring everyone to 8th grade Algebra. I just dont see how the equity police will stop there. AAP will be next.

More BS and speculation from the "anti-equity" people.

Do you think it is equitable to have three different Algebra entry points (7,8,9) that results in varying Math outcomes for HS students?

I think it's fine for school districts to accelerate kids as they deem necessary. Alg 1 in 7,8,9 is reasonable for the DC area. I prefer clustering and extensions over tracking.

But is it equitable for school districts to accelerate kids in that 7,8,9 model?

How do you define "equitable"? What is your goal?