PTO and the death of America's summer vacation

[Anonymous]

I work for myself and take a lot of vacation. It’s wonderful and I don’t think I can ever go back.

[Anonymous]

I get 26 vacation days a year, 13 sick days and 14 federal holidays annually. I am trying to get better about taking all my days off.

[Anonymous]

This is why I work in the schools— 9 weeks summer, week Xmas, week Easter—unpaid unless I use my personal days or annual leave over those breaks
I cannot work 50 weeks per year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get 26 vacation days a year, 13 sick days and 14 federal holidays annually. I am trying to get better about taking all my days off.

There are 12 Federal holidays in 2023. 13 when it’s Inauguration year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why I work in the schools— 9 weeks summer, week Xmas, week Easter—unpaid unless I use my personal days or annual leave over those breaks
I cannot work 50 weeks per year.

The article says that overwhelming those in education take the most vacation. Significantly more than any other type of worker.

[Anonymous]

If I were running the show, I'd offer the following:

-All the federal holidays (even Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Juneteenth)

-Shut down the office DEC 24 through JAN 1

-Close the office on Good Friday and Easter Monday (when most schools are closed)

-Half-days on Fridays in summer

-Plus 25 days PTO (sick and vacation combined)

^^^
This would go a long way towards boosting morale and allowing people to take a vacation or just play hooky.

And guess what? Productivity will not decline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I were running the show, I'd offer the following:

-All the federal holidays (even Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Juneteenth)

-Shut down the office DEC 24 through JAN 1

-Close the office on Good Friday and Easter Monday (when most schools are closed)

-Half-days on Fridays in summer

-Plus 25 days PTO (sick and vacation combined)

^^^
This would go a long way towards boosting morale and allowing people to take a vacation or just play hooky.

And guess what? Productivity will not decline.

It would probably increase.

I also would add 100% disability pay for the first 60-days paid for by the employer. That would help people not feel like their need to hoard PTO.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 49 yo professional in DC proper and I get 30 days of PTO per year. That's sick and vacation all together. I use every single minute of it. We are closed December 25- January 2 as well

Two weeks are spent at the beach each summer, than a week in the Fall and a week in the Spring

Where do you work and are you hiring!

My spouse is at Deloitte and has this exact set up. It’s fabulous.

But does t Deloitte work you for much unpaid overtime and lots of travel?

He travels maybe one week/year and rarely works over 50 hours. During crunch time a few weeks of the year he will work weekends but he’s the default parent who does all the kid stuff during the week since I have zero flexibility so it evens out.

The company is disliked on this board but it has honestly been the most family friendly of anywhere either of us has ever worked.

What level is your husband? I had to quit at manager because it was unsustainable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I were running the show, I'd offer the following:

-All the federal holidays (even Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Juneteenth)

-Shut down the office DEC 24 through JAN 1

-Close the office on Good Friday and Easter Monday (when most schools are closed)

-Half-days on Fridays in summer

-Plus 25 days PTO (sick and vacation combined)

^^^
This would go a long way towards boosting morale and allowing people to take a vacation or just play hooky.

And guess what? Productivity will not decline.

I have this at my current job, except not Good Friday/Easter Monday. It’s pretty good although I do work hard. We have high retention though.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 49 yo professional in DC proper and I get 30 days of PTO per year. That's sick and vacation all together. I use every single minute of it. We are closed December 25- January 2 as well

Two weeks are spent at the beach each summer, than a week in the Fall and a week in the Spring

Where do you work and are you hiring!

My spouse is at Deloitte and has this exact set up. It’s fabulous.

But does t Deloitte work you for much unpaid overtime and lots of travel?

He travels maybe one week/year and rarely works over 50 hours. During crunch time a few weeks of the year he will work weekends but he’s the default parent who does all the kid stuff during the week since I have zero flexibility so it evens out.

The company is disliked on this board but it has honestly been the most family friendly of anywhere either of us has ever worked.

What level is your husband? I had to quit at manager because it was unsustainable.

Sr manager

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 49 yo professional in DC proper and I get 30 days of PTO per year. That's sick and vacation all together. I use every single minute of it. We are closed December 25- January 2 as well

Two weeks are spent at the beach each summer, than a week in the Fall and a week in the Spring

Where do you work and are you hiring!

My spouse is at Deloitte and has this exact set up. It’s fabulous.

But does t Deloitte work you for much unpaid overtime and lots of travel?

He travels maybe one week/year and rarely works over 50 hours. During crunch time a few weeks of the year he will work weekends but he’s the default parent who does all the kid stuff during the week since I have zero flexibility so it evens out.

The company is disliked on this board but it has honestly been the most family friendly of anywhere either of us has ever worked.

What level is your husband? I had to quit at manager because it was unsustainable.

Sr manager

5 weeks vacation, 50 hour weeks, $250k salary. Man I went into wrong field.

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/deloitte/salaries/management-consultant/levels/senior-manager#

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 49 yo professional in DC proper and I get 30 days of PTO per year. That's sick and vacation all together. I use every single minute of it. We are closed December 25- January 2 as well

Two weeks are spent at the beach each summer, than a week in the Fall and a week in the Spring

Where do you work and are you hiring!

My spouse is at Deloitte and has this exact set up. It’s fabulous.

But does t Deloitte work you for much unpaid overtime and lots of travel?

He travels maybe one week/year and rarely works over 50 hours. During crunch time a few weeks of the year he will work weekends but he’s the default parent who does all the kid stuff during the week since I have zero flexibility so it evens out.

The company is disliked on this board but it has honestly been the most family friendly of anywhere either of us has ever worked.

What level is your husband? I had to quit at manager because it was unsustainable.

Sr manager

5 weeks vacation, 50 hour weeks, $250k salary. Man I went into wrong field.

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/deloitte/salaries/management-consultant/levels/senior-manager#

Yes, that’s about right, slightly higher than his comp. It’s more like $200 + variable bonuses (usually $20-30k) but definitely well compensated.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 49 yo professional in DC proper and I get 30 days of PTO per year. That's sick and vacation all together. I use every single minute of it. We are closed December 25- January 2 as well

Two weeks are spent at the beach each summer, than a week in the Fall and a week in the Spring

Where do you work and are you hiring!

My spouse is at Deloitte and has this exact set up. It’s fabulous.

But does t Deloitte work you for much unpaid overtime and lots of travel?

He travels maybe one week/year and rarely works over 50 hours. During crunch time a few weeks of the year he will work weekends but he’s the default parent who does all the kid stuff during the week since I have zero flexibility so it evens out.

The company is disliked on this board but it has honestly been the most family friendly of anywhere either of us has ever worked.

What level is your husband? I had to quit at manager because it was unsustainable.

Sr manager

5 weeks vacation, 50 hour weeks, $250k salary. Man I went into wrong field.

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/deloitte/salaries/management-consultant/levels/senior-manager#

Yes, that’s about right, slightly higher than his comp. It’s more like $200 + variable bonuses (usually $20-30k) but definitely well compensated.

Is BD a big part of his role?

[Anonymous]

This is one of the reasons I am a teacher - between Thanksgiving, winter break, and Spring break I have 4 weeks off, plus most holidays. I addition to that we also get sick/personal time off - these are all paid

Summer is 11 weeks of unpaid time off but I elect to have my salary distributed through all 12 months, so it feels like I’m getting paid during the summer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I were running the show, I'd offer the following:

-All the federal holidays (even Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Juneteenth)

-Shut down the office DEC 24 through JAN 1

-Close the office on Good Friday and Easter Monday (when most schools are closed)

-Half-days on Fridays in summer

-Plus 25 days PTO (sick and vacation combined)

^^^
This would go a long way towards boosting morale and allowing people to take a vacation or just play hooky.

And guess what? Productivity will not decline.

I would work so hard on my on hours at a job like this! Current at 20 days PTO (sacrificed my raise this year to get a couple more) and with two kids under five they’re all used for sick leave and daycare closures, and I’m pretty much constantly scrambling to make up time at weird hours. I hate it and it makes me hate this job.