Banneker high school

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Anonymous wrote:For the current parents at Banneker, how soon after the application deadline did you receive notification of an interview. Did you sit in on the interview?

March 4, for an interview the next week. Interview was half an hour long, with three faculty members; they asked a parent/other adult to join for the end.

Interview seems unfair for neurodiverse kids.

Well they have students on the spectrum so it doesn’t seem that unfair.

The DCPS stats say 1% special education, which is far too low. Like Walls, there’s something going on where they effectively screen out IEP kids.

You don’t know the percentage of SN students who apply. Many folks with kids that have SN bail on DCPS. DCPS on the whole doesn’t do well with SPED. Although my friends and family in other states with kids who have ASD all have the same complaints so I’m not sure DCPS is out of the norm. Please apply and see what happens!

I’m fairly positive that there should statistically be more than 1%. Especially since overt discrimination against IEPs has been tolerated at other application schools (Walls). We may or may not apply, and emphasis on interviews and the lack of SN representation is one big factor.

SPED students should not attend Walls, Banneker, or any other academic magnet. They should attend a comprehensive public (or private) school that is equipped to meet their diverse needs. If you need extra time on tests, a quiet room, additional academic support, etc, find a suitable school. Stop trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole.

Federal law disagrees with you.

Banneker and Walls’ SPED numbers agree with me. Federal law meets reality.

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What does it mean that a neurodiverse student will not do well in an interview? My kid was asked to discuss a book she read recently. That doesn’t seem like a nefarious question to me. If a kid doesn’t like to read, the school might not be a good place for them.

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Anonymous wrote:For the current parents at Banneker, how soon after the application deadline did you receive notification of an interview. Did you sit in on the interview?

March 4, for an interview the next week. Interview was half an hour long, with three faculty members; they asked a parent/other adult to join for the end.

Interview seems unfair for neurodiverse kids.

Well they have students on the spectrum so it doesn’t seem that unfair.

The DCPS stats say 1% special education, which is far too low. Like Walls, there’s something going on where they effectively screen out IEP kids.

You don’t know the percentage of SN students who apply. Many folks with kids that have SN bail on DCPS. DCPS on the whole doesn’t do well with SPED. Although my friends and family in other states with kids who have ASD all have the same complaints so I’m not sure DCPS is out of the norm. Please apply and see what happens!

I’m fairly positive that there should statistically be more than 1%. Especially since overt discrimination against IEPs has been tolerated at other application schools (Walls). We may or may not apply, and emphasis on interviews and the lack of SN representation is one big factor.

SPED students should not attend Walls, Banneker, or any other academic magnet. They should attend a comprehensive public (or private) school that is equipped to meet their diverse needs. If you need extra time on tests, a quiet room, additional academic support, etc, find a suitable school. Stop trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole.

Federal law disagrees with you.

Banneker and Walls’ SPED numbers agree with me. Federal law meets reality.

Not sure what point you think you’re making?

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Anonymous wrote:What does it mean that a neurodiverse student will not do well in an interview? My kid was asked to discuss a book she read recently. That doesn’t seem like a nefarious question to me. If a kid doesn’t like to read, the school might not be a good place for them.

I’m going to assume you are asking this in good faith. Kids on the spectrum present themselves in a distinctive, non-typical way that can invite rejection regardless of their academic ability. Of course many kids w autism read - likely read more than many NT kids. That’s not what this is about.

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Anonymous wrote:For the current parents at Banneker, how soon after the application deadline did you receive notification of an interview. Did you sit in on the interview?

March 4, for an interview the next week. Interview was half an hour long, with three faculty members; they asked a parent/other adult to join for the end.

Interview seems unfair for neurodiverse kids.

Well they have students on the spectrum so it doesn’t seem that unfair.

The DCPS stats say 1% special education, which is far too low. Like Walls, there’s something going on where they effectively screen out IEP kids.

You don’t know the percentage of SN students who apply. Many folks with kids that have SN bail on DCPS. DCPS on the whole doesn’t do well with SPED. Although my friends and family in other states with kids who have ASD all have the same complaints so I’m not sure DCPS is out of the norm. Please apply and see what happens!

I’m fairly positive that there should statistically be more than 1%. Especially since overt discrimination against IEPs has been tolerated at other application schools (Walls). We may or may not apply, and emphasis on interviews and the lack of SN representation is one big factor.

SPED students should not attend Walls, Banneker, or any other academic magnet. They should attend a comprehensive public (or private) school that is equipped to meet their diverse needs. If you need extra time on tests, a quiet room, additional academic support, etc, find a suitable school. Stop trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole.

Federal law disagrees with you.

Banneker and Walls’ SPED numbers agree with me. Federal law meets reality.

Not sure what point you think you’re making?

The point I’m making should be obvious. I can’t help if you don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

Ok, so I went down the rabbit hole on the PARCC data for this one, and I don’t think the schools are discriminating in interviews. It’s just that there are very, very few proficient high students in DC with IEPs: 108 who scored 4+ on the ELA PARCC in 9th and 10th grade, combined. And even fewer who score 5—just 12, in 9th and 10th combined.

Banneker and Walls, together, enroll about 1/3 of students who score 5s, and about half the students at those schools score 5s. In other words, rule of thumb, enrollment at the two schools combined equals the number of students who score 5, divided by 3, times 2. So if there are 12 IEP students who scored 5s, proportional enrollment at Banneker and Walls would be 8 students. The actual number is 7 (evenly distributed). I just don’t see any evidence of discrimination. Especially since Banneker and Walls are both humanities focused and disproportionately girls, whereas proficient IEP students have got to be disproportionately autistic boys. Also, no change at Walls between 9th (admitted by interview) and 10th (admitted by exam).

I understand why the parents of proficient and advanced IEP students are concerned about discrimination, and I don’t think the schools should discriminate. Good news, the numbers seem to say that they don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I went down the rabbit hole on the PARCC data for this one, and I don’t think the schools are discriminating in interviews. It’s just that there are very, very few proficient high students in DC with IEPs: 108 who scored 4+ on the ELA PARCC in 9th and 10th grade, combined. And even fewer who score 5—just 12, in 9th and 10th combined.

Banneker and Walls, together, enroll about 1/3 of students who score 5s, and about half the students at those schools score 5s. In other words, rule of thumb, enrollment at the two schools combined equals the number of students who score 5, divided by 3, times 2. So if there are 12 IEP students who scored 5s, proportional enrollment at Banneker and Walls would be 8 students. The actual number is 7 (evenly distributed). I just don’t see any evidence of discrimination. Especially since Banneker and Walls are both humanities focused and disproportionately girls, whereas proficient IEP students have got to be disproportionately autistic boys. Also, no change at Walls between 9th (admitted by interview) and 10th (admitted by exam).

I understand why the parents of proficient and advanced IEP students are concerned about discrimination, and I don’t think the schools should discriminate. Good news, the numbers seem to say that they don’t.

Thank you for doing this analysis. Much appreciated.

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Anonymous wrote:For the current parents at Banneker, how soon after the application deadline did you receive notification of an interview. Did you sit in on the interview?

March 4, for an interview the next week. Interview was half an hour long, with three faculty members; they asked a parent/other adult to join for the end.

Interview seems unfair for neurodiverse kids.

Well they have students on the spectrum so it doesn’t seem that unfair.

The DCPS stats say 1% special education, which is far too low. Like Walls, there’s something going on where they effectively screen out IEP kids.

You don’t know the percentage of SN students who apply. Many folks with kids that have SN bail on DCPS. DCPS on the whole doesn’t do well with SPED. Although my friends and family in other states with kids who have ASD all have the same complaints so I’m not sure DCPS is out of the norm. Please apply and see what happens!

I’m fairly positive that there should statistically be more than 1%. Especially since overt discrimination against IEPs has been tolerated at other application schools (Walls). We may or may not apply, and emphasis on interviews and the lack of SN representation is one big factor.

SPED students should not attend Walls, Banneker, or any other academic magnet. They should attend a comprehensive public (or private) school that is equipped to meet their diverse needs. If you need extra time on tests, a quiet room, additional academic support, etc, find a suitable school. Stop trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole.

Federal law disagrees with you.

Banneker and Walls’ SPED numbers agree with me. Federal law meets reality.

Not sure what point you think you’re making?

The point I’m making should be obvious. I can’t help if you don’t understand.

That Banneker and Walls violate federal law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I went down the rabbit hole on the PARCC data for this one, and I don’t think the schools are discriminating in interviews. It’s just that there are very, very few proficient high students in DC with IEPs: 108 who scored 4+ on the ELA PARCC in 9th and 10th grade, combined. And even fewer who score 5—just 12, in 9th and 10th combined.

Banneker and Walls, together, enroll about 1/3 of students who score 5s, and about half the students at those schools score 5s. In other words, rule of thumb, enrollment at the two schools combined equals the number of students who score 5, divided by 3, times 2. So if there are 12 IEP students who scored 5s, proportional enrollment at Banneker and Walls would be 8 students. The actual number is 7 (evenly distributed). I just don’t see any evidence of discrimination. Especially since Banneker and Walls are both humanities focused and disproportionately girls, whereas proficient IEP students have got to be disproportionately autistic boys. Also, no change at Walls between 9th (admitted by interview) and 10th (admitted by exam).

I understand why the parents of proficient and advanced IEP students are concerned about discrimination, and I don’t think the schools should discriminate. Good news, the numbers seem to say that they don’t.

Do Banneker and Walls only enroll 5s? Doubt it. Also many parents drop IEPs due to discrimination they know their kids will face. Banneker & Walls should have more than 1%.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I went down the rabbit hole on the PARCC data for this one, and I don’t think the schools are discriminating in interviews. It’s just that there are very, very few proficient high students in DC with IEPs: 108 who scored 4+ on the ELA PARCC in 9th and 10th grade, combined. And even fewer who score 5—just 12, in 9th and 10th combined.

Banneker and Walls, together, enroll about 1/3 of students who score 5s, and about half the students at those schools score 5s. In other words, rule of thumb, enrollment at the two schools combined equals the number of students who score 5, divided by 3, times 2. So if there are 12 IEP students who scored 5s, proportional enrollment at Banneker and Walls would be 8 students. The actual number is 7 (evenly distributed). I just don’t see any evidence of discrimination. Especially since Banneker and Walls are both humanities focused and disproportionately girls, whereas proficient IEP students have got to be disproportionately autistic boys. Also, no change at Walls between 9th (admitted by interview) and 10th (admitted by exam).

I understand why the parents of proficient and advanced IEP students are concerned about discrimination, and I don’t think the schools should discriminate. Good news, the numbers seem to say that they don’t.

Do Banneker and Walls only enroll 5s? Doubt it. Also many parents drop IEPs due to discrimination they know their kids will face. Banneker & Walls should have more than 1%.

Also the former Walls principal was on record stating that kids with IEPs were not welcome. So.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it mean that a neurodiverse student will not do well in an interview? My kid was asked to discuss a book she read recently. That doesn’t seem like a nefarious question to me. If a kid doesn’t like to read, the school might not be a good place for them.

I’m going to assume you are asking this in good faith. Kids on the spectrum present themselves in a distinctive, non-typical way that can invite rejection regardless of their academic ability. Of course many kids w autism read - likely read more than many NT kids. That’s not what this is about.

Can you please be more specific? What exactly what a kid on the autism spectrum say or do that would be about a book they read that would “invite rejection”?

[Anonymous]

The interview panel doesn’t have access to IEP/504 info or PARCC scores.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it mean that a neurodiverse student will not do well in an interview? My kid was asked to discuss a book she read recently. That doesn’t seem like a nefarious question to me. If a kid doesn’t like to read, the school might not be a good place for them.

My kid with ASD loves to read. But he is rather long-winded and has trouble getting to the point. It’s part of the diagnosis.

Social skills and interacting with strangers as in a 10 minute interview is also challenging for him. Get it now?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I went down the rabbit hole on the PARCC data for this one, and I don’t think the schools are discriminating in interviews. It’s just that there are very, very few proficient high students in DC with IEPs: 108 who scored 4+ on the ELA PARCC in 9th and 10th grade, combined. And even fewer who score 5—just 12, in 9th and 10th combined.

Banneker and Walls, together, enroll about 1/3 of students who score 5s, and about half the students at those schools score 5s. In other words, rule of thumb, enrollment at the two schools combined equals the number of students who score 5, divided by 3, times 2. So if there are 12 IEP students who scored 5s, proportional enrollment at Banneker and Walls would be 8 students. The actual number is 7 (evenly distributed). I just don’t see any evidence of discrimination. Especially since Banneker and Walls are both humanities focused and disproportionately girls, whereas proficient IEP students have got to be disproportionately autistic boys. Also, no change at Walls between 9th (admitted by interview) and 10th (admitted by exam).

I understand why the parents of proficient and advanced IEP students are concerned about discrimination, and I don’t think the schools should discriminate. Good news, the numbers seem to say that they don’t.

Are you looking at just DCPS Data? Or charter data too?
About 40% of kids are in charters and lots of them are looking for application high schools. That includes kids with IEP‘s.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone heard from Banneker to interview yet?