MS GPA for TJ

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Anonymous wrote:They base a huge part of the admissions decision on "experience factors" - meaning:

- race / URM status.

Asians are at a distinct disadvantage under this new system.

Off topic

Agree, but given that 60% of the seats go to Asians, the facts indicate otherwise.

+1

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Anonymous wrote: (TJ stated 3.995 average GPA for admitted student for 2022) has to have 4.0 GPA with very few having GPA of 3.7.

3.995 GPA would mean something like all As and just 10 Bs among the entire class for their entire transcript.

Yep, but actually, the released GPA for kids admitted to TJ in the last few years has been 3.95 and not 3.995. Most of the kids would still have a 4.0, but there's much more room for some A- or B grades among admitted kids.

Curious to know if 4.0 GPA in Carson/Long Fellow will be same as some 'Not well represented' MS?

Despite the essays or FARMS having twice as much weight as GPA, I suspect a single A- in those schools would knock out a student who doesn't have bonus points.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: (TJ stated 3.995 average GPA for admitted student for 2022) has to have 4.0 GPA with very few having GPA of 3.7.

3.995 GPA would mean something like all As and just 10 Bs among the entire class for their entire transcript.

Yep, but actually, the released GPA for kids admitted to TJ in the last few years has been 3.95 and not 3.995. Most of the kids would still have a 4.0, but there's much more room for some A- or B grades among admitted kids.

Curious to know if 4.0 GPA in Carson/Long Fellow will be same as some 'Not well represented' MS?

Despite the essays or FARMS having twice as much weight as GPA, I suspect a single A- in those schools would knock out a student who doesn't have bonus points.

Seems 80-85% student admitted will have 4.0 GPa to bring average down to 3.95.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

7th grade marks carry a full credit (for the full year) and 1st Quarter 8th grade marks carry a quarter credit (.25 for the quarter of the year).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

7th grade marks carry a full credit (for the full year) and 1st Quarter 8th grade marks carry a quarter credit (.25 for the quarter of the year).

thank you, but I missing something here.. earlier posts indicated 3.995 as average GPA for students admitted in 2022. So I am not sure how that came about if it is not weighted average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

7th grade marks carry a full credit (for the full year) and 1st Quarter 8th grade marks carry a quarter credit (.25 for the quarter of the year).

thank you, but I missing something here.. earlier posts indicated 3.995 as average GPA for students admitted in 2022. So I am not sure how that came about if it is not weighted average.

It's 3.95, according to the FCPS press releases. It's not weighted. What it means is that most of the kids accepted to TJ had straight As in 7th grade and through the first quarter of 8th grade. This is not surprising, since MS grades are inflated and pretty much every above average kid who puts in a modicum of effort gets As.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

7th grade marks carry a full credit (for the full year) and 1st Quarter 8th grade marks carry a quarter credit (.25 for the quarter of the year).

thank you, but I missing something here.. earlier posts indicated 3.995 as average GPA for students admitted in 2022. So I am not sure how that came about if it is not weighted average.

It's 3.95, according to the FCPS press releases. It's not weighted. What it means is that most of the kids accepted to TJ had straight As in 7th grade and through the first quarter of 8th grade. This is not surprising, since MS grades are inflated and pretty much every above average kid who puts in a modicum of effort gets As.

+1, Although I also think GPA between MS also differs. In Center AAP MS (like Carson/Long Fellow tc.), it will be much more difficult to get 4.0 GPA vs 'Under represented' MS or non-aap MS. However new system seems to treat everyone with same yard stick.
New admission policy treats aaP and non-aap grade same hence AAP student will have muh more difficulty in qualifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

7th grade marks carry a full credit (for the full year) and 1st Quarter 8th grade marks carry a quarter credit (.25 for the quarter of the year).

thank you, but I missing something here.. earlier posts indicated 3.995 as average GPA for students admitted in 2022. So I am not sure how that came about if it is not weighted average.

It's 3.95, according to the FCPS press releases. It's not weighted. What it means is that most of the kids accepted to TJ had straight As in 7th grade and through the first quarter of 8th grade. This is not surprising, since MS grades are inflated and pretty much every above average kid who puts in a modicum of effort gets As.

+1, Although I also think GPA between MS also differs. In Center AAP MS (like Carson/Long Fellow tc.), it will be much more difficult to get 4.0 GPA vs 'Under represented' MS or non-aap MS. However new system seems to treat everyone with same yard stick.
New admission policy treats aaP and non-aap grade same hence AAP student will have muh more difficulty in qualifying.

It doesn't really matter since they're competing against the top 1.5% from their school who use the same yardstick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

7th grade marks carry a full credit (for the full year) and 1st Quarter 8th grade marks carry a quarter credit (.25 for the quarter of the year).

thank you, but I missing something here.. earlier posts indicated 3.995 as average GPA for students admitted in 2022. So I am not sure how that came about if it is not weighted average.

It's 3.95, according to the FCPS press releases. It's not weighted. What it means is that most of the kids accepted to TJ had straight As in 7th grade and through the first quarter of 8th grade. This is not surprising, since MS grades are inflated and pretty much every above average kid who puts in a modicum of effort gets As.

+1, Although I also think GPA between MS also differs. In Center AAP MS (like Carson/Long Fellow tc.), it will be much more difficult to get 4.0 GPA vs 'Under represented' MS or non-aap MS. However new system seems to treat everyone with same yard stick.
New admission policy treats aaP and non-aap grade same hence AAP student will have muh more difficulty in qualifying.

It doesn't really matter since they're competing against the top 1.5% from their school who use the same yardstick.

It does matter. &th grader can take regular math have grade A and take Algebra 1 in 1st qtr wiht grade A, whereas AAP kids will always be taking math course that is 1 year ahead of their grade. Since admission does not differentiate between difficulty of course taken and treats each grade same, AAP students are at disadvantage.
Also, top 1.5% includes AAP and no-aap stduents with highest GPA (don't know if school will take in to account anything else) . If student is not in top 1.5%, they are ranked in general pool again with same yardstick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the admissions committee see the grades of all classes or just the core classes they use to calculate the MS GPA? Does the committee see individual class grades?

Math+Science+History+English.
If your child is scoring A grade 93-100% then GPA will be 4.0

How do they calculate 7th grade GPA and 8th grade 1st quarter grade? Is it a simple mean with equal weightage? For example, Math GPA for 7th grade is A- and 8th GPA 1st quarter is A, the total GPA for Math is 3.85

7th grade marks carry a full credit (for the full year) and 1st Quarter 8th grade marks carry a quarter credit (.25 for the quarter of the year).

thank you, but I missing something here.. earlier posts indicated 3.995 as average GPA for students admitted in 2022. So I am not sure how that came about if it is not weighted average.

It's 3.95, according to the FCPS press releases. It's not weighted. What it means is that most of the kids accepted to TJ had straight As in 7th grade and through the first quarter of 8th grade. This is not surprising, since MS grades are inflated and pretty much every above average kid who puts in a modicum of effort gets As.

+1, Although I also think GPA between MS also differs. In Center AAP MS (like Carson/Long Fellow tc.), it will be much more difficult to get 4.0 GPA vs 'Under represented' MS or non-aap MS. However new system seems to treat everyone with same yard stick.
New admission policy treats aaP and non-aap grade same hence AAP student will have muh more difficulty in qualifying.

It doesn't really matter since they're competing against the top 1.5% from their school who use the same yardstick.

It does matter. 7th grader can take regular math with grade A and will take Algebra 1 in 1st qtr having grade A, whereas AAP kids will always be taking math course that is 1 year ahead of their grade and could end up getting A-. In this scenario, non-aap kids rank will be higher in a school. Since admission does not differentiate between difficulty of course taken and treats each grade same, AAP students are at disadvantage.
Also, top 1.5% includes AAP and no-aap stduents with highest GPA (don't know if school will take in to account anything else) . If student is not in top 1.5%, they are ranked in general pool again with same yardstick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They base a huge part of the admissions decision on "experience factors" - meaning:

- race / URM status.

Asians are at a distinct disadvantage under this new system.

Well race and URM status aren't known. Selection is race-blind, and including that info is illegal in the US.

Technically, experience factors are qualifying for FARMS, special education students, etc. But they do force students to include their race to apply. Why collect that data at all on the application?

Except the selection committee doesn't know the race of the applicant because that would be illegal if they did you could bring a multimillion dollar suit and win

You know that is false.

A “winning” essay is about how your parents were farm workers from Latin America but you overcame adversity to apply to TJ. Or may show you became president of the BIPOC after school club.

But if your essay focuses on how you learned Mandarin, mastered the violin, or speak fluent Hindi, then you will not be selected.

“experience factors”

Why so passive aggressive against a kid whose parents were farmers? That's very much analogous to our own middle America. We have a real lack of empathy even to our own fellow Americans in flyover states, it's no wonder America is so divided. It saddens me when I travel and pass through rust belts. I wish kids in middle of nowhere Iowa had opportunities like TJ. Kids with true upper class resources don't need to be granted further advantages for entry into TJ; they already have every advantage.