Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

Anonymous
Stop trying to make this into something it is not.

The LAPD acted professionally, with great patience and restraint.
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


How many children did he put at risk, driving around in that condition before he crashed his vehicle?


If we're talking about actions prior to the arrival of the police, then you're fine with them deciding he was a danger 15 minutes ago and executing him?


No one "executed him." He died 5 hours later, after being transported (by the authorities) to the hospital. That doesn’t mean every aspect of this encounter was handled correctly but we have to get the facts right.

"Executed" is false and not helpful.


Neither is minimizing his death, and effectively shrugging your shoulders at this.
He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect. It was not necessary to tase him for as long as he did. He was out of the car, he was on the ground and subdued by multiple officers. IF 5 trained police officers do not know what to do with an unarmed, frightened man then the police have a HUGE training issue - which we have seen repeatedly.





"He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect."



Not the cocaine in his sytem? How do you know it wasn't the cocaine?
Anonymous
The New York post showed the entire video. If the man had sat down as requested he would still be alive. Stop spreading this. I live in LA and we don’t need people like you with your fake videos not posting the ENTIRE truth.
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents


LE are 100% aware that Tasing doesn't work on people who are high on drugs. Also, pepper spray doesn't work on people who are high on drugs. Hospital ER's are well aware of this as well, because they have to deal with these people ALL THE TIME.

The more interesting question here is why a school teacher was high on drugs. I'd be concerned if my kid's teacher had a drug habit.










Good point why was a teacher, in the middle of the school day high on coke and week, causing DUI accidents and running in the middle of the street during school hours? There is more to this story here.
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I’m surprised nobody mentioned (maybe I missed someone posting it) but it has a little irony involved as the teacher was a close relative of the Black Lives Matter founder
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


How many children did he put at risk, driving around in that condition before he crashed his vehicle?


If we're talking about actions prior to the arrival of the police, then you're fine with them deciding he was a danger 15 minutes ago and executing him?


No one "executed him." He died 5 hours later, after being transported (by the authorities) to the hospital. That doesn’t mean every aspect of this encounter was handled correctly but we have to get the facts right.

"Executed" is false and not helpful.


Neither is minimizing his death, and effectively shrugging your shoulders at this.
He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect. It was not necessary to tase him for as long as he did. He was out of the car, he was on the ground and subdued by multiple officers. IF 5 trained police officers do not know what to do with an unarmed, frightened man then the police have a HUGE training issue - which we have seen repeatedly.





"He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect."



Not the cocaine in his sytem? How do you know it wasn't the cocaine?


Yeah, that's not how tasing or the heart's electrical system works.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make this into something it is not.

The LAPD acted professionally, with great patience and restraint.







I agree. They did their job, it's really unfortunate how this ended for sure, very said, but the LA PD did nothing wrong. They were calm and reasonable trying to keep him out of the road and to keep others safe driving on that busy roadway.
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.


DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make this into something it is not.

The LAPD acted professionally, with great patience and restraint.







I agree. They did their job, it's really unfortunate how this ended for sure, very said, but the LA PD did nothing wrong. They were calm and reasonable trying to keep him out of the road and to keep others safe driving on that busy roadway.


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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


How many children did he put at risk, driving around in that condition before he crashed his vehicle?


If we're talking about actions prior to the arrival of the police, then you're fine with them deciding he was a danger 15 minutes ago and executing him?


No one "executed him." He died 5 hours later, after being transported (by the authorities) to the hospital. That doesn’t mean every aspect of this encounter was handled correctly but we have to get the facts right.

"Executed" is false and not helpful.


Neither is minimizing his death, and effectively shrugging your shoulders at this.
He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect. It was not necessary to tase him for as long as he did. He was out of the car, he was on the ground and subdued by multiple officers. IF 5 trained police officers do not know what to do with an unarmed, frightened man then the police have a HUGE training issue - which we have seen repeatedly.





"He died due to a cardiac arrest which was clearly caused by the tasing. It may have been 5 hrs later but there is clear cause and effect."



Not the cocaine in his sytem? How do you know it wasn't the cocaine?


Did you even watch the video? He went limp immediately after tasing.

There is no indication as to whether he had been using cocaine and/or marijuana that day. It may have been in system from previously. It may have been made up by LAPD (not unheard of). However, an overdose from cocaine 6+ hours after use is not the norm.

I don't understand why so many of you folks bend yourselves in knots trying to defend the police actions when there is clearly a misuse of force.
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.


DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two


This. He should be charged, in jail, and alive. He should be working with his criminal def atty. No one is saying that the police should not arrest him. We are saying that the level of force is unfounded. He should be prosecuted - not killed in the middle of the day.
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.


DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two


I hope YOU can see the difference between someone following the rules and this guy. Why can’t people just sit down when requested? He ran into the middle of the road and didn’t follow instructions. I guess if he got hit by a car you’d blame that on police as well. Just and fyi the rest of us are TIRED of fake racism. I’m the LA poster and at the protest location in my neighborhood) where there is always someone protesting (and often I will honk in agreement) there was one person there yesterday with their police brutality sign. One. The rest of us understand this is NOT George Floyd. Stop trying to make fetch happen. You’re not going to spread lies about my city. Gtfo.
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


How many children did he put at risk, driving around in that condition before he crashed his vehicle?


If we're talking about actions prior to the arrival of the police, then you're fine with them deciding he was a danger 15 minutes ago and executing him?


No one "executed him." He died 5 hours later, after being transported (by the authorities) to the hospital. That doesn’t mean every aspect of this encounter was handled correctly but we have to get the facts right.

"Executed" is false and not helpful.


So a gun shot victim who lives for a day before dying wasn't murdered?
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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.


I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.


But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents
he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.


He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.


Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.


DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two


If the guy want high on coke, maybe he would have survived a tasting, for not following instructions
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