Winter MAP

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most kids go up and down. Its normal.



Yes kids go up and down. But the CES and ELC admittance is based only on the Winter MAP R. I don’t think they take into account that the kid scored higher in the fall or anything.
Anonymous
ELC is seen as something of a better-than-Benchmark local alternative to the CES curriculum, which is different, but it looks like the same students that end up in the CES lottery pool are supposed to receive "enriched literacy services," whether at the CES or at their home school. Some home schools, specifically those with immersion programs (at least some) won't be getting ELC, so you'd have to talk to your principal about how your child will be getting the enrichment (don't let them off the hook by saying Benchmark Advance provides it -- there should be something more robust!).

CES lottery pool criteria are described in the FAQ: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jmQmo4UZDowNzddfXA56UtyB0KJPSfwiGi9oqqVT1OI/view

The criteria are all from the current period (marking period 2) of grade 3:

A for the quarter in Reading (whole subject, not sub-subject grades), AND
A for the quarter in either Writing or Social Studies (ditto on whole subject), AND
Reading Level for the quarter reported as "on" or "above," AND
Locally-normed 85th %ile on winter MAP-R (local norming is discussed in the FAQ and in several other DCUM threads).

Note: MCPS does not adjust the MAP percentiles for weeks of learning, though there is an NWEA mechanism that would allow them to do so, so schools that administer the test later (say, end of January) provide an advantage, perhaps a percentile or two, to their students over those taking it earlier (say, right after winter break).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most kids go up and down. Its normal.



Yes kids go up and down. But the CES and ELC admittance is based only on the Winter MAP R. I don’t think they take into account that the kid scored higher in the fall or anything.


When we were considered, only the fall MAP-R was considered.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most kids go up and down. Its normal.



Yes kids go up and down. But the CES and ELC admittance is based only on the Winter MAP R. I don’t think they take into account that the kid scored higher in the fall or anything.


When we were considered, only the fall MAP-R was considered.



That was because they didn’t take winter map due to covid. The fall map r was taken from home during shutdown
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids ent down about ten points between fall and winter last year, and still wasn’t up to the high score by fall of this year.



So school is making our kids dumber? 😂

I am concerned as he was up for rescreening for gt. They will specifically use the winter map scores. It stings because he totally would have been labeled gt if they used his fall scores.


What is your DC’s grade and current reading level?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids ent down about ten points between fall and winter last year, and still wasn’t up to the high score by fall of this year.



So school is making our kids dumber? 😂

I am concerned as he was up for rescreening for gt. They will specifically use the winter map scores. It stings because he totally would have been labeled gt if they used his fall scores.


What is your DC’s grade and current reading level?



3rd grade. Above grade level in reading
Anonymous
While the gt designation is nice if they get it, it doesn’t trigger anything for the student.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids ent down about ten points between fall and winter last year, and still wasn’t up to the high score by fall of this year.



So school is making our kids dumber? 😂

I am concerned as he was up for rescreening for gt. They will specifically use the winter map scores. It stings because he totally would have been labeled gt if they used his fall scores.


What is your DC’s grade and current reading level?



3rd grade. Above grade level in reading


Exact level is more helpful since half the class is probably above.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids ent down about ten points between fall and winter last year, and still wasn’t up to the high score by fall of this year.



So school is making our kids dumber? 😂

I am concerned as he was up for rescreening for gt. They will specifically use the winter map scores. It stings because he totally would have been labeled gt if they used his fall scores.


What is your DC’s grade and current reading level?


3rd grade. Above grade level in reading


Exact level is more helpful since half the class is probably above.


They don't report the exact (number/letter) levels anymore. Just below/on/above.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:While the gt designation is nice if they get it, it doesn’t trigger anything for the student.


GT designation can be used to advocate for enrichments, as required in state law (COMAR). MCPS, or some schools, at least, aren't always good at making sure that is provided, but they are required to do so.

That's separate from any of the specific magnet/acceleration programs (CES, "compacted" Math 4/5 & 5/6, ELC, criteria-based MS magnets, etc.).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids ent down about ten points between fall and winter last year, and still wasn’t up to the high score by fall of this year.



So school is making our kids dumber? 😂

I am concerned as he was up for rescreening for gt. They will specifically use the winter map scores. It stings because he totally would have been labeled gt if they used his fall scores.


What is your DC’s grade and current reading level?



3rd grade. Above grade level in reading


Exact level is more helpful since half the class is probably above.


Nope not half the class. Entire class is above grade level. Its a W feeder school. And 80% of the class is gifted
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are parents finding out MAP-R test scores so early? Teachers don't tell us unless we ask, until they get posted. They aren't posted in ParentVue yet at our school.


Kids see their score at the end of the exam.


Yep. My kid knows to look for the score.
Anonymous
My 2nd grader MAP Math 24x, do not think any enrichment opportunities in the class...



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the gt designation is nice if they get it, it doesn’t trigger anything for the student.


GT designation can be used to advocate for enrichments, as required in state law (COMAR). MCPS, or some schools, at least, aren't always good at making sure that is provided, but they are required to do so.

That's separate from any of the specific magnet/acceleration programs (CES, "compacted" Math 4/5 & 5/6, ELC, criteria-based MS magnets, etc.).
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