Winter MAP

[Anonymous]

My DC’s score went down 4 points from fall MAP. So school is made him dumber? How does this make sense? He unlearned stuff? Huge difference in percentile too. Sigh

[Anonymous]

My kids ent down about ten points between fall and winter last year, and still wasn’t up to the high score by fall of this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids ent down about ten points between fall and winter last year, and still wasn’t up to the high score by fall of this year.

So school is making our kids dumber? 😂

I am concerned as he was up for rescreening for gt. They will specifically use the winter map scores. It stings because he totally would have been labeled gt if they used his fall scores.

[Anonymous]

It's possible to have a bad day when you're off your game and make little mistakes you wouldn't otherwise make. Same for kids as for adults.

[Anonymous]

MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

Probably just peaked and others are now catching up. MAP-R is really important for qualification to CES if that’s of interest to you, so you’d be wise to work on reading comprehension if that’s something you’re interested in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

Probably just peaked and others are now catching up. MAP-R is really important for qualification to CES if that’s of interest to you, so you’d be wise to work on reading comprehension if that’s something you’re interested in.

Do u know the criteria for ces ? What map r score is required?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

That's your problem then. Everyone who is anyone preps these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

That's your problem then. Everyone who is anyone preps these days.

Really? For MAP tests? We never did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

Probably just peaked and others are now catching up. MAP-R is really important for qualification to CES if that’s of interest to you, so you’d be wise to work on reading comprehension if that’s something you’re interested in.

Do u know the criteria for ces ? What map r score is required?

Last I knew it was a lottery of the top 15% at their cluster since it's locally normed so depends on the schools SES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

Probably just peaked and others are now catching up. MAP-R is really important for qualification to CES if that’s of interest to you, so you’d be wise to work on reading comprehension if that’s something you’re interested in.

Do u know the criteria for ces ? What map r score is required?

Last I knew it was a lottery of the top 15% at their cluster since it's locally normed so depends on the schools SES.

They released the schools as part of a FOIA request from the MCCPTA a while back, I think. It wasn't quite by cluster. I think many of us had assumed the three "tiers" for local norming were Title I, Focus, and Non-Focus, but the schools that got the biggest bump didn't include all of the Title I schools - it was more tightly controlled than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

Probably just peaked and others are now catching up. MAP-R is really important for qualification to CES if that’s of interest to you, so you’d be wise to work on reading comprehension if that’s something you’re interested in.

Do u know the criteria for ces ? What map r score is required?

Last I knew it was a lottery of the top 15% at their cluster since it's locally normed so depends on the schools SES.

Maybe 15% on average but at our school kids needed a MAP-R of I think 94 or 95th percentile to qualify for the pool. Other schools were at 80%. So the range is quite wide between the tiers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAP tests knowledge of material, not aptitude, so no, school did not make your kid dumber. If your kid is getting scores that would make them qualify for GT they are likely answering questions on the test that are well beyond the content they are doing in class (i.e. a kid who scores a 95th percentile is answering questions correctly that are grade levels above where they currently are in school). If you prepped your DC at all for the test last year by providing more advanced work and did not do that this time, then that could bring their score down. If not, all of those questions they answered correctly last year that were grade levels beyond where they were in class are now being answered correctly by a greater number of kids because they are catching up. The only way to make sure your DC continues to stay at or better than where they are currently is to teach them higher level math (again, assuming they are scoring toward the top).

No did not prep. Also this was reading not math. Kid has been reading alot through out the school year. Most likely an off day

Probably just peaked and others are now catching up. MAP-R is really important for qualification to CES if that’s of interest to you, so you’d be wise to work on reading comprehension if that’s something you’re interested in.

Do u know the criteria for ces ? What map r score is required?

Last I knew it was a lottery of the top 15% at their cluster since it's locally normed so depends on the schools SES.

Maybe 15% on average but at our school kids needed a MAP-R of I think 94 or 95th percentile to qualify for the pool. Other schools were at 80%. So the range is quite wide between the tiers.

That just stinks since my DC went from 97th to 89th. Sigh..

[Anonymous]

When did they take Winter MAP? My kids have not said they took it yet, just the Fall MAP.